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    I did not think I was going to watch this series, since I had enough of the story at the time the trial was on TV. It irked me at the time, since the trial succeeded in dividing people along racial lines, even in the workplace. I remember working with black nurses, in Canada of all places, and having to excuse myself from the lunch table due to the disagreements on the guilt or innocence of you-know-who.
    However, twenty years has passed. There are some heavy hitters in this show, and John Travolta not only produced it, but plays Robert Shapiro. His makeup is quite good. His facial expressions and mannerisms as well. I am not seeing Rob Morrow talk much yet as Barry Scheck, but if memory serves, he really was the instrument for winning the case through his cross examinations of people like Fung and others. I thought it would be a linear telling of the tale, but it has it's moments. The most powerful one so far, was the reaction of Ron Goldman's father, in Marcia Clark's office.
    Cuba Gooding is doing his best, but I bet that OJ Simpson himself is sitting in prison, in front of a TV screen thinking " I am much better looking than THAT dude!"

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    Whoa... what a brave soul you are for opening starting THIS thread. I, too, watched (or AM watching) after not being initially interested. This tragedy was over-saturating the media during the actual trial and the over-telling, the guilty vs innocent narratives have been exasperating even since then.

    I had been teetering on whether or not to start a thread myself, but I didn't want to get into a debate with anyone. The only people that know the truth are the three that were know were there: Nicole, Ronald, and the killer. Even to comment on the story the show is telling is walking a thin line. The accuracy is suspect. According to what I've been hearing/reading, a majority of the people depicted weren't even consulted on this. It's sensationalized and I accept it as such. Based off what I've read/heard, OJ can't be watching because the jail he's in doesn't get that channel. But even if he's NOT watching, he's no doubt familiar with Cuba. and I agree, OJ can't be pleased that Cuba is playing OJ.

    But I will comment on the actual show and actors. Everyone (including Cuba) has been doing a great job. For sure, the whole team for OJ nor the prosecution has been introduced. The ones we've met so far have done a fine job of what they've been given. Taking what they are given us with a grain of salt, I'm glad I tuned in.

    I will say, I fast forward through a particular portion of the telling. I won't get into it, but, if it has nothing to do with the actual case, I'm not interested.

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    • #3
      ^^HAT ---I guess Donald Trump has made it possible for us all to be a little less PC ! The most vulgar thing about the latest episode was that trashy book by Faye what's her-name, which Kardashian declared porno pulp -less than truthful. The poor woman was not able to speak for herself for obvious reasons. I'm getting a real sense of the sleazy underworld of the publicity that surrounded the whole tragedy. I cling to that belief--that the show is meant to expose all that detritus, and not hurt anyone further. The children are the ones to empathize with.
      It is not lost on me, the irony of having Nathan Lane play the " rough around the edges " F. Lee Bailey, minus his gravelly voice!

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      • #4
        The channel this is on is not available to me. I did watch a Dr. Phil episode where the author of the book this was based on was on, as well as Fred Goldman and his daughter. The Goldmans are furious that this has been made. He also interviewed one of Nicole's sisters (one I had not seen previously) back stage (she didn't want to join the others on stage); and even dragged that Caitlin guy out from wherever he was.

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        • #5
          It must be difficult for the Kardashians and especially Mom, to watch this. Nicole was one of her best friends. The kids, in all fairness, were young and still have fond memories of Dad. He gets bribed or blackmailed at some point by Shapiro in this series. Schwimmer is playing the part as sympathetically as possible, but the real man idolized Simpson out of all reason. There is also some "mythology" (possible) about Kardashian burning the murder clothes by Simpson's request, and it kept him up nights after the verdict.

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          • #6
            This was a powerful episode, especially the performance of the actor playing Chris Darden (Stirling K. Brown) . What a heavy load, and Marcia knows it but does not say. The real Marcia Clark was on the news during a review of the show, and she made some startling admissions after so many years, like how she felt responsible for the lost case. I disagree. I have read about 12 books on the subject, taken from both sides, and I think Vincent Bugliosi wrote the most astute and no-hold-back one. Check out Bobby Morse as Dominic Dunne, he's a dead ringer in voice and appearance. These makeup artists will get emmys!
            Last edited by Rubythroat1; March 3, 2016, 08:59 AM.

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            • #7
              It must have been the mini-series on American Crime story, that ignited the news today, about the knife that has reportedly been turned into LAPD, by a retired cop who alleged that he got it from a construction person who worked on the demolition of the original estate building of Simpson. I will say one thing, at least it was a welcome relief from all the political news on CNN! I have read 12 books on the trial and the aftermath, and all of the people commenting on TV are familiar names to me, including the defense lawyer in the robbery case, who STILL has sour grapes.

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              • #8
                I've only read two books - the ones put out by Marcia Clarke & Christopher Darden, both of which I thought were very good.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jupiter Jane View Post
                  I've only read two books - the ones put out by Marcia Clarke & Christopher Darden, both of which I thought were very good.
                  The good ones were by Vincent Bugliosi, and Detective Lang. I forced myself to read the ones that supported Simpson. It can turn into a subjective and race driven story, even after more than twenty years.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Rubythroat - I actually had no idea there were so many books out there until I read your posts.

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                    • #11
                      This is my own opinion, but this was such a tragedy that there was so much evidence against OJ, yet this man walked. Who else would have done these horrific murders? These were very personal & brutal attacks. At least, he's in prison now. I wasn't going to watch this story either, but couldn't help myself.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by soapgirl3 View Post
                        This is my own opinion, but this was such a tragedy that there was so much evidence against OJ, yet this man walked. Who else would have done these horrific murders? These were very personal & brutal attacks. At least, he's in prison now. I wasn't going to watch this story either, but couldn't help myself.
                        I agree. It was a "rage killing", pure and simple. Not only that, but there is forensic evidence that two separate knives were used, one serrated, and one smooth. Not to mention the witness at the airport who saw Simpson stuffing his bag into a garbage bin.

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                        • #13
                          Well the makeup/hair and set people wil get Emmys, or should ,for this episode. I've never seen such dead ringers for Marcia Clark, Fred Goldman, or Dominic Dunne, or Chris Darden either. It was hard to watch some sequences since this was the point at which the "Dream Team" and an alcoholic F. Lee Bailey turned the trial from Simpson, to Mark Fuhrman, by the simple injection of the dreaded "N" word. From then on it was a gladiator's
                          playing field. On comes Barry Scheck, next, to come in for the kill.

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                          • #14
                            Another new hairdo for Marcia, as in the original. Her relationship with C. Darden is nice to watch, as we were never given this view during the trial. They keep it professional. They did a "bag" explanation for Kardashian, that I had not seen before. The infamous airport bag---Kardashian is starting to have doubts. He must have been a logical man. Travolta is really playing up Robert Shapiro--it would be fun to know how both Bailey and Shapiro find their screen counterparts. I have to keep a strict control on my reactions, since the whole thing infuriated me for two years.

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                            • #15
                              so do we think Marcia Clark and Chris Darden crossed the professional line with their relationship? I like her friendship with him, it seemed to mellow her out, she was under such stress. They both were treated so badly by the press.
                              John T is awesome as Robert Shapiro. Robert K seems like a pansy to me as he is portrayed, or naïve maybe?

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