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I notice may be all the current storylines always take a quick change in direction. The storylines that are progressing suddenly change course and all the invest time of waiting for that final climax, it led to nothing or just dropped out of nowhere. This is apparent in Amanda's family interactions with her mom and half-sister, it was interesting and intriguing in the beginning, but it lost steam when there were huge gaps between episodes, Sutton was supposed to be shady character but ended up like a cartoon character in the end. Another example is Gloria, I thought she was headed for big storyline with Lauren hiring her, but again long gaps (months) of no scenes with Gloria and storyline again dropped, out of sight, out of mind. Also, that whole Stitch return and kidnapping Mariah and locking her for days without any interactions with her, and no explanation for his motives, escaped the whole scenario and never heard of or persecuted. And then this whole Newman Media restructuring, I was enjoying the Chole/Chelsea/Sally bickering, but now they are all separated, I was hoping for a this trio endure and be successful together. These are just some examples, I'm sure there is more, this current story with Ashland's treatment will inevitably lead no shocking plot twist as well.
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They dropped the Sutton storyline like a hot potato. If you blinked, you missed it. I guess he was convicted of murder or something with Amanda's father? I have no idea. It all happened off screen. But they showed Amanda happy about it.
Then the freaking surrogacy. They made us think Mariah would steal the baby or something, then it went 180 with Devon getting partial custody without a courtroom battle.
Then the ultimate topic of discussion: Ashland has been faking his illness. We all thought it was possible in the beginning. Then he would have episodes of illness without anyone seeing him. Now all that and everything is fake. Okay, I can roll with that. At least they finally made a decision. I think.
Add to that the Newman Media crap. And will Adam have sex with Sally. And everything else they have in the air right now. It's a huge game of "who knows". -
I have absolutely NO problem with the show if it upside-downs the Devon/Amanda/Dominic aspect overnight, and pulls a quick fix. I'd cheer for a half hour.
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There used to be a saying, "Baboons fling crap fast to see what will stick."
The last time I was this disappointed in a soap opera was the last several years of Guiding Light. I loved that show, but when a certain executive producer came on board, it felt JUST LIKE THIS. My opinion, Josh Griffith is desperate to find a story that drives the ratings up. Sadly, in the world of soap operas, ratings are quick to decline and slow to rise. TPTB should have been paying attention years ago when the show was being systematically destroyed (the reliquary, John Abbott being killed off, etc.--too many to list). My opinion is it is too late. The manure being flung right now is appalling and an insult to the show and its creators, not to mention the audience who has faithfully tuned in. Replacing Burgi with Newman is just the rotten manure on the cake for me. Too many excuses and not enough reason to watch a one time great show.Comment
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I loved the GL!!! I was so sick about the way it was brought down to it's knees with the hotel and the outdoor amateur scenes and yes it is what is happening here. I am waiting for the day TGVN hands his daughter Abbys bio son over to St Devon. I know it is coming
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Smithey If I didn't know JG was such a bloody horrible writer to begin with, I'd suspect they were tossing darts at a wall full of post-it notes with "ideas" on them to write their storylines. And I'm 100% with you on the Richard Burgi firing. That was absolutely uncalled for, the way he was treated for an HONEST mistake. I was SO hoping he'd get better treatment than he got during his run on GH, but of course with Y&R these days we just aren't allowed to have nice things anymore, it seems.
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I don’t have an issue when the writers fix a story that isn’t working with the viewers. I agree with RubyThroat1 about the surrogate story; I would welcome a fix sooner rather than later. The idea that Abby’s family has been completely in the dark with the exception of an “update” call with Ashley that was bizarre. At this point the only thing I want to see is a switch with the sperm donation. If the writers don’t switch it then I would like to see this story, that has been dominating, move to the back burner.Comment
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The writers do change directions very suddenly and that leads to lumpy storylines…hard to believe or accept. I don’t know if they base changes on viewer reactions or ratings or budgeting or what. Everyone commented that Abby never once consulted any member of her family during Devon’s threatened custody lawsuit…not mom, dad, uncles, aunts, sister, brothers. Then suddenly after she signs the papers, they have her call her mother and the dialogue tells us Ashley knew of this all along and apparently didn’t feel compelled to step in or step up and support her emotionally drained daughter.
Never once during all of this mess did Abby ever mention talking with her mother and based on that one-sided phone call we saw, and the fact that we never heard anything different from Ashley even by way of Abby’s mentioning her mother’s opinion or thoughts on the subject, we are left to think Ashley had little problem with any of this.
In that same episode it seemed like Abby would finally wake up and put a stop to this but instead we were led down the path that this all is wonderful for everyone and Neil’s memory was repeatedly invoked as it has been too many times in recent weeks and we see the last shot of the day Devon with a goofy-faced smile so we are all to say how wonderful this is. Then why tease us that Abby woke up and was going to stand strong even if she stood alone?
But addressing the overall plot turns…yes, too many…Amanda’s family… there are too many to list. It’s odd.Last edited by Soras; February 4, 2022, 09:18 AM.Comment
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@Angeldar
I wish the viewers were writing it. My choice has always been a crazy surrogate instead of the village baby. And, the surrogate could have been Ben’s new wife……. It would have given Rey something to do and bring together the Abbotts and Newmans being worried / doing everything to find the surrogate kidnapper. -
The problem with Y&R is that the current regime is incapable of writing long-term plotlines with several characters unlike the masters of this genre in the past (William Bell, Claire Labine, Gordon Russell, Douglass Marland and Agnes Nixon in particular). These fantastic scribes wrote stories that sometimes started off slowly but the payoff was inevitably incredible. Examples: the Alice Matthews-Steven Frame-Rachel Davis triangle which put Another World on the map and at the top of the ratings. Douglas Marland's David Hamilton murder storyline that literally saved GH from cancellation and paved the way for the phenomenon the show would become. Gordon Russell's Karen Wolek saga on One Life to Live which led to the finest courtroom trial in daytime history and a cataclysmic tour de force performances from Judith Light. Bill Bell's Horton saga on Days of Our Lives. Writers these days want the quick easy fix, not deep, invested storytelling. All of the four remaining soaps are so much poorer for it and, more importantly, we viewers. That's a genuine shame.
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I'm all for some twists & turns in a story BUT it has to make sense! When you have people acting totally out of character or something happens & then it's completely re-written, it leaves viewers feeling bewildered and annoyed. Although, like many of you, I'd just like to see the surrogacy storyline end. I don't care how, just make it stop!Comment
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I like to call it a show about nothing but not in a good way like Seinfeld.Originally posted by xoregonian View Post
They spend a year with the stupid baby story only to resolve it because Chance doesnt want to be a Dadfy now.
Nick and Phyllis break up. Shes was showing she had deep feelings for Jack now they are playing the same stupid non dance as Sally and Adam.
I'm okay with slowly developing a romance but if it's too slow that's not good either.
Writers really are lousy.Comment
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Maybe YR should hire someone like Stephen King to write the show's stories. I would go for that. King has the potential to write heart-felt stories and twists, beside the horror genre. I think he would fit in, since the Sheila character is somewhat loosely based on the Annie Wilks character in the book "Misery."Comment
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I've always maintained King is a fantastic author, just not when he writes horror. His horror is just hackneyed drivel. The only exception to that I found was "The Dead Zone". That I thought was actually unique and intriguing. The rest of his stuff, "Misery" included isn't very well thought out, beyond their initial ideas.
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