Sick of Devon saying Son or Dad [Merged]

[Pa.Grannie]

Devon is no more than a sperm donor. Is everyone sick of him and his family saying Son or Dad.
The Bells have their favs on B&B now looks like the same on Y&R.
Will someone please have the guts to bring this farce to an end.

[GwenSharonteam]

Yep. It would be for a long run …. At least Abby doesn’t say it, and I hope she would never say it when talking to Dominic …it’s insanity ..but just JG doing bad writing as usual …

[Rubythroat1]

I am sick of Devon PERIOD-full stop.

[GwenSharonteam]

It seems writers doesn’t know what to do lately all storylines are a disaster.. I was spending a day 2 years ago watching all the episodes in once, ..last year became already just 3 hours in my life that I was postponed every time,..and no I really just watch the episode I can have one scene interesting to watch … so yes too much baby storyline and pushing Devon as the baby’s daddy .. his behaviour is not normal ,… and hearing him like he was only him there for Dominic is full absurdity…

[Betsey]

Devon is no more than a sperm donor. Is everyone sick of him and his family saying Son or Dad.
The Bells have their favs on B&B now looks like the same on Y&R.
Will someone please have the guts to bring this farce to an end.

Its true. Devon is the Liam of Y&R. He is the most heinous character that is hated by most viewers and unredeemable but written to be revered by the whole town. BB wants everyone to worship at Liam's feet and JG wants the same for Devon. It's quite disgusting.

[ShesAllThat]

IF devon was some anonymous number abby picked from a list then yes he would be just a sperm donor. but he was never that and since he created that child willingly and wants to raise him and take care of him - yeah he is dad wether people want to admit it or not!

[GwenSharonteam]

He’s not Dom’s father just sperm donor from the first agreement , it doesn’t change also the fact from people saying the opposite. Point blank .. a sperm donor is not not a father, a dad or daddy .. just nobody beside seeds, fluid, and chromosomes to share with the fertilised egg .. and the agreement was legal visitation not him being daddy like you give Devon an inch and he takes a motorway ?

[Soras]

There’s nothing to admit. He is a biological parent but he was never intended to be nor did HE ever intend to be nor did he ever indicate he might want to be the unborn child’s father as in the guy who raises the child as his son or daughter. There’s nothing to admit. Devon is wrong, double dealing, selfish, it’s NOT about Dominic…it’s about Devon…and his unresolved grief over losing Hilary and their baby she was carrying. He is no friend to Abby but Abby never ever should have selected someone known, whom she called her best friend and Chance knew him too.

[GwenSharonteam]

DNA is important form men, and plenty men in real life asked to a brother or cousin to be a sperm donor, so no .. it’s not to ask to someone you know , it’s ask someone trustworthy what Devon wasn’t … people mistaken highly here , for real situation when things don’t go wrong like this even in a more close relationship than Devon ,Abby and Chance .. Devon was a liar, and a manipulator …

[afinebalance]

I wonder if Devon had this in mind, right from the beginning, when he volunteered as a way to have a biological heir? Abby was generous enough to treat him as more than an anonymous sperm donor, that he would be allowed to be a part of Dominic's life but she never expected or wanted him to make himself a legal Dad. That is so undermining and disrespectful of a couple that wanted their own baby. Abby did not have to give Devon that privilege; she trusted him and did it out of gratitude and the goodness of her heart. It is clear that she is not really happy about this, but is confused.

[gippsy]

This was Devon's plan all along. Abby was too naive and trusting to question his motives. This storyline literally makes me sick. In spite of his millions, Devon is a complete piece of garbage. He reminds me of those famous-for-nothing trashy reality stars. Money can't buy you class.

[Leanna Love]

Whether or not he consciously intended to do it or not, the fact is Devon used Abby (as well as Mariah) to get himself a baby. He swore that he would not expect to have any kind of custody & even signed a contract to that effect. But, it turns out, he really just used Abby as an egg donor & Mariah as a surrogate so he could get the child he's always wanted without inconveniencing Amanda. Next thing you know, he'll be calling Amanda "mommy" in front of Dom. And everyone's praising him....what's up with that?? No one praised Adam for wanting custody of Christian, Billy certainly didn't praise Chelsea for wanting visitation with Johnny when she asked for it about a year ago. But for Devon, Billy shows up with champagne! What a hypocrite!

[GwenSharonteam]

IF devon was some anonymous number abby picked from a list then yes he would be just a sperm donor. but he was never that and since he created that child willingly and wants to raise him and take care of him - yeah he is dad wether people want to admit it or not!

He’s not a dad, .. he never decided willingly to sign as a father but a sperm donor ,so things needs to be respect in that issue .. plenty take that decision in real life, and no mother would want their sperm donor on their door step asking for share custody of their child, .. a sperm donor has a moral duty to honour his contract , he gifted his sperm so another couple can have a baby and being parent not him, ..so no, is not the same … Devon would become a dad when with his wife or girlfriend he will decide of making their own family .. here he step outside his boundaries and he decided to take the child of someone else as his, … DNA doesn’t make family , and yes in real life open sperm donation knowing who’s the father of your child doesn’t change the term of the agreement and still need to be respected.. pretty sure also people who had the used of a friend as donor , couldn’t be happy they made a farce of a such serious situation … I am disgusted , sick and I found it offensive … and we need to stop putting the blame on Abby when it’s Devon who as usual cannot honour his words …

And he definitely didn’t create that child .. to make that child , they needed Mariah ‘s uterus , Abby’s egg and Devon sperm .. without the others, no Dominic .. so it’s the reason Abby give first the same importance to Devon and Mariah in Dominic’s life .. but it seems people making a fixation that a baby exist just with the sperm, and Devon’s need pass before everyone …if Mariah was also the egg donor does Abby should have shared custody with her also and keep her child only 5 days a week, I don’t think so ..so it shows well how Devon’s request is absurd and out of line, and certainly selfish …

[GwenSharonteam]

Ah ah, thank you .. but no worries I just said the hypothesis of Mariah being egg donor, but if she was I don’t think people would think normal than Abby still mother of Dominic would need to share custody with Dominic and Mariah and having her son only 5 days a week.. it’s like asking a loan with interest here .. yes, I give you my sperm but in return you give me one day every week of the son I am the reason he exists … ?.. definitely not a sperm donor .. Devon is a sperm loaner , but the interest are very high risk ?

[MsMalin]

I really love what you said here Gwen. Saying it was a gift is a beautiful sentiment. Too bad Devon s*** all over it.

[GwenSharonteam]

Thank you MsMalin .. it is … fertility lottery it’s unfair in this world, .. and yes for some who wait so long to be parent when it comes that way it’s like a benediction.. it’s the reason MO was good to play Abby as euphorical, she lost her first child and she wanted to be sure her new baby got the best chance to be born … sadly there is Devon’s factor who thought highly of himself first, and his generous act was just an act …

[0riginalD0nDada]

Well he is his dad and it is his son so……

[ShesAllThat]

EXACTLY!!!!

[Soras]

Won’t make a difference if there’s another biological father. Neither Devon nor Abby would say they don’t love the child anymore. It’s one thing to keep saying Devon
is the father. It’s quite another to basically ignore Abby’s role and her feelings as the mother. This whole thing happened in a hot minute- Devon was filing a lawsuit! Just like that. He said they gave him no choice…what a bunch of garbage. Some friend. Dominic was not being abused and was not without a whole lot of love and family but Devon sees himself as the father…not the sperm donor…and he asserted rights that frankly I do not think would have held up in court. But Abby was pushed by Devon and Chance and felt threatened with losing even more time with Dominic so she caved because nobody took her side. Not her husband and apparently not her mother. I feel for Abby and Devon caused this…not Chance. Maybe Chance would have bonded better if Devon wasn’t always sniffing around acting like he’s the baby whisperer because of a biological bond with the child. Well that ought to make adoptive parents feel great…no dna means you’re not really a parent. Chance may not ever want to be Dominic’s father. But we don’t really know that, do we? Nor does he. Nor does Devon. Chance is in no emotional shape to make that decision. Right now he’s just relieved to have that pressure off him. But Devon had to swoop in with attorneys and lawsuits blazing to save the day…maybe because he couldn’t save his own son Hilary was carrying. Devon is in no better emotional shape than Chance is. Dominic is his second chance. Abby be damned. This shared custody and adding Winters to the name (but Devon’s dna is Hamilton not Winters) is more about Devon’s needs than Dominic’s and not at all about his dear friend Abby.

[aryastark]

IF devon was some anonymous number abby picked from a list then yes he would be just a sperm donor. but he was never that and since he created that child willingly and wants to raise him and take care of him - yeah he is dad wether people want to admit it or not!

THANK YOU!! Chance should ask Abby why she chose her friend to father her child. What Chance sees is his wife and her friend with their son. I don't see how Chance could ever feel like Dominic's father with Devon living in the same town and demanding to be a part of his son's life.

[ToThePoint]

Dom has two father figures in his life, one who wants that role and another who does not want that role. Interesting that the one who wants and is willing to take on the honor and privilege is being vilified while the one who sees Dom as an abligation that should be passed to another is afford all the excuses why him not wanting to be a dad to Dom is okay.

Who thinks that Dom being raised by a man who doesn’t want to be a father to him is best for the kid?

[Leanna Love]

If Chance doesn't want to be a father right now or ever, that's his decision. But what about Abby? Why should she give up her full custody rights (which were agreed upon from the start of this whole mess) just to make Devon happy? Devon supposedly offered to be a sperm donor to help give Abby a baby of her own. There was never any mention of them sharing a baby. He specifically told Abby that he would never seek any rights to the child and she trusted him as her best friend to keep his word. Yet, here we are....

[ToThePoint]

@honevo02, who mentioned PPD because I sure didn’t. I said nothing about Abby either. My commentary pertained to Chance, who doesn’t want to be a father to his wife’s child whom he dos not think of as his, and Devon who wants and is willing to be the father figure. Abby is going to to confront the reality that her husband does not see her son as theirs and that he is uncomfortable being Dom’s father if the responsibility of fatherhood rest on him alone. The fact that Chance is more than happy sharing the responsibility with Devon says everything. How long are the riders gonna ignore that elephant in the room? Post traumatic stress disorder is not to blame for Chance not wanting to be sole father to Dom.

[GwenSharonteam]

Nobody force Chance to be parent to Dominic , but it doesn’t apply thst Devon need to take his place , in real life a mum would take care of her child on her own, and if she asked for help ,and that help doesn’t need legal right to her child ,.l so yes it’s the same from the moment there’s detachment for the new born , and someone need to step up for the father or the mother … so no, here we condemned the legal request from Devon , Devon can help without asking legal request but he won’t because he want to be Dominic’s father so Devon’s problem and Chance p’s problem are different l. And Abby had to keep dole custody of her child even without Chance..there’s no issue here ,.. the issue is the legal right request by Devon that out of place and selfish …

[GwenSharonteam]

Well he is his dad and it is his son so……

Neither dad and neither his son … he’s his godfather and Dominic’s is the son of his best friend … easy …

[GwenSharonteam]

Dom has two father figures in his life, one who wants that role and another who does not want that role. Interesting that the one who wants and is willing to take on the honor and privilege is being vilified while the one who sees Dom as an abligation that should be passed to another is afford all the excuses why him not wanting to be a dad to Dom is okay.

Who thinks that Dom being raised by a man who doesn’t want to be a father to him is best for the kid?

Dom has a mom, if Chance bailed Abby is there to take care of him, sorry having Devon taking charge in her family life is abusive , and Devon as an happy uncle and godfather can still be there for Dominic , no need to go legal just for Devon wanting played dad , what wasn’t their agreement and he forced Abby to live a shared custody she never wanted first with anyone .. why now every decision she wants for her son she needs to share with Devon , she shouldn’t….. sorry people are focusing like they need to replace a father for another father …. if Abby was bad mother , people would they think to replace her with another mother.. I don’t think so … Abby could have wanted as a single mother being mum, and if Devon would have gifted her his sperm ,he would have no say about her life and the baby life .. people here forced the issue because Chance is a supposed bad father, so great .. there’s father two that can come and take the place .. ridiculous and offensive …

[aryastark]

Dom has a mom, if Chance bailed Abby is there to take care of him, sorry having Devon taking charge in her family life is abusive , and Devon as an happy uncle and godfather can still be there for Dominic , no need to go legal just for Devon wanting played dad , what wasn’t their agreement and he forced Abby to live a shared custody she never wanted first with anyone .. why now every decision she wants for her son she needs to share with Devon , she shouldn’t….. sorry people are focusing like they need to replace a father for another father …. if Abby was bad mother , people would they think to replace her with another mother.. I don’t think so … Abby could have wanted as a single mother being mum, and if Devon would have gifted her his sperm ,he would have no say about her life and the baby life .. people here forced the issue because Chance is a supposed bad father, so great .. there’s father two that can come and take the place .. ridiculous and offensive …

How can Chance be the baby's father when his biological father is in Chance's face all the time demanding to be part of HIS son's life. How is that going to work? Everyone knows Devon is Dominic's biological father. The only way Chance will ever feel like Dom's father is for them to leave Genoa City and get away from Devon.

[GwenSharonteam]

And it’s the sperm donor not the biological father, their is no consideration of biological father in sperm donation but natural father legally considered as Chance … and if people could see Devon as a sperm donor what he is only, perhaps things as ridiculous would not happen either … and the sperm donor needs to respect his boundaries and he doesn’t … , and Chance can fight international criminals but he can’t say no to Devon and asked him to respect his family … It’s on him, it’s not the reason Abby need to sacrifice her family and gifted her son to Devon ..Devon did it for Devon ..why people are so easy to see the blame on Abby but can see the laziness in their action from Devon and Chance who both just are selfish, and just see their own person …

[henyvo02]

The sperm donor is the biological father .

[GwenSharonteam]

Sperm donor by law is not the biological father … bio father is used only in adoption term, .. sperm donor is a sperm donor just natural father is considered and it’s Chance ,… any parent who use a sperm donor never called him bio father to not confused children of what a father is, but sperm donor ,. .so people can repeat how much they want, but a sperm donor never evocate the name of father referring to him , only for his sperm used to fertilised the eggs … I guess the real problem is there , people want to think a sperm donor as even a bio father what is not in eye of law, or medicine …

[zenmaster5]

I am curious to know how Devon, Chance and Abby will deal with this two daddy issue when Dominic is older because Devon has done a complete one-eighty and now calls Dominic his son even though he swore up and down that Chance and Abby were Dominic's parents. Devon was okay in the beginning being Godfather but now it seems like he wants it all. All I see down the road is a confused little boy wondering who do I call dad, but I guess if Victor and Brad can work it out like they did with Abby, there's hope for them all.

[GwenSharonteam]

I am curious to know how Devon, Chance and Abby will deal with this two daddy issue when Dominic is older because Devon has done a complete one-eighty and now calls Dominic his son even though he swore up and down that Chance and Abby were Dominic's parents. Devon was okay in the beginning being Godfather but now it seems like he wants it all. All I see down the road is a confused little boy wondering who do I call dad, but I guess if Victor and Brad can work it out like they did with Abby, there's hope for them all.

Devon is a liar and never respect his word ,so the course of event with Devon are just a pattern that repeat himself ..

- He swore to Neil he can marry Hilary , that’s old story for him .. oopsie they cheated on Neil for months…
- he swore to Lily, thst she can tell him everything .. and they are family , nothing she would do could make see her differently..?, yep he asked the judge for the maximal pain to send her in jail ?
- he swore to Elena , they are strong nothing can break them , she can be honest with him .. lol ? .. he destroyed Nate’s career as surgeon and Elena was at the door the day after …
- He swore to Abby, she doesn’t have to worry .. he would never come back to his word and ask for Dominic in 2 years or ever .. .. not even 3 months later he bullied her to share custody because he want to play daddy with his new toy , her son ..

so Dominic is just a pattern of Devon wanting what he can’t have .. and be jealous of other … or destroyin life to get what he wants … Dominic would have been as happy with Devon as godfather and uncle, but Devon wasn’t happy to be just Dominic’s godfather… Devon is there only for Devon .. but Abby with luck would have her son fully back when Devon would be focus on another interest…

[Leanna Love]

In the end, in all situations, Devon ALWAYS does what's best for Devon. He pretends to love & care for his family & friends, but he'll turn on them the moment they do anything that displeases him. And if he wants what they have, he finds a way to take it. Why so many people worship the ground he walks on is beyond me. He just seems like a younger version of Victor to me... and that's NOT a compliment!

[MsMalin]

I am praying for his downfall.

[zenmaster5]

GwenSharonteam, you have touched on some truths about Devon that I forgot about... thank you for enlightening me. Devon definitely isn't a man of his word and should be ashamed of himself for the actions he took against Abby and Chance.

[aryastark]

Devon, Abby and Chance all live in the same town. Everyone knows Devon is the baby's father. How long will it take for Dominic to find out the truth about his paternity? Yes I blame Abby because she made dumb choices and now she is playing the victim. There is nothing Chance can say or do to change the fact that Devon will always be part of their lives.