ADVISORY: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers!!

[Moore ideas]

1. SOC is a spoiler-free site, and SOC's guidelines prohibit referencing spoiler information in non-spoiler topics. Why? Because it's massively rude to blab what's gonna happen to a character or with a storyline to people who don't want to know it. It's like telling someone the end of a movie when they're halfway through watching it, or "who done it" when a good friend hasn't finished reading the "who done it" book yet. I mean, this is just a basic of common sense and normal respectful conduct, so it shouldn't even be necessary to spell it out to people!

But I will, because apparently it's necessary. And so, again: DO NOT REFERENCE SPOILER INFORMATION IN NON-SPOILER TOPICS. Posters who do this should expect a ban.


2. The Canadian show airs a day ahead of the U.S. Therefore, whatever is shown in Canada is still spoiler information in the United States. Anything that's shown in Canada should be discussed in the Canadian "Day Ahead" topic. Because, it's a day ahead of the United States. Once the same show airs in the United States, it's no longer considered spoiler information and can be openly discussed.


To summarize:

[JCmojoe81]

just want to chime in and go into a little more detail about the Canadian episode thread that Moore Ideas is referencing in case someone is not familiar.

-the day ahead Canadian episode thread must be a full recap of the episode. Once the show is recapped, anyone that wants to chime in with a discussion is then welcome
-Simply posting a spoiler from the episode, or starting a thread about a particular story that took place in the episode is not permitted, even with the spoiler tag.
-If there is not a full recap thread on the Canadian episode, posters can either write one up or wait until the episode airs in the US to post a thread about a particular topic

[xoregonian]

Thank You so much Mods!

[Moore ideas]

Well, it was necessary to post this as a stuck topic on the DOOL forum, and despite the fact that we already have advisories here, I guess I'm going to need to repeat this simplified caution here too. Ban spree to follow. Seriously! PEOPLE!!

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I wonder what it will take for posters to process that referencing potential spoiler information in NON-spoiler topics is NOT allowed. I mean, we already have a stuck advisory at the top of this forum (one of many, over time) that serves as a clear reminder about this, and it's also specifically spelled out in SOC's guidelines. The guidelines say:

"Do not post spoiler information in non-spoiler threads." I mean, that's pretty much just a straightforward declarative sentence, so...

Are posters just not reading all the advisories that are supposed to help, or do they just not care?


Maybe people will learn to care a little bit more about SOC's very clear and frequently-repeated policies about this, if they're prohibited from posting for a little while. Or permanently.


I'm an optimist, though, so let's give this another shot:

DO. NOT. REFERENCE. SPOILER. INFORMATION. IN. NONSPOILER. TOPICS. It makes other posters think that they're allowed to continue the spoiler conversation, and then that ruins the storyline for posters who didn't want to know what's going to happen down the road.


Need that again?? Okey-dokey; I'm here to help:

DO. NOT. REFERENCE. SPOILER. INFORMATION. IN. NONSPOILER. TOPICS.


Slower?? You've got it!

DOOO.....NOT.....REFERENCE.....SPOILER.....INFORMA AATION.....IN.....NONSPOILER.....TOPICS.


Everyone good with this now? AWESOME!!

[Good Kitty]

I’m guessing Y&R airs at different times during the day in the U.S. Is it a spoiler to comment on something major that has just happened but in an earlier time zone?

[Moore ideas]

You cannot discuss what's happened on the show until it has aired East Coast Time. It doesn't matter if the state of Illinois decides that Y&R will air at 7:30 in the morning and that's where/when you're watching it, you cannot post about that day's show until it has aired on the East Coast.

[Angeldar]

Thank you! It is so discouraging to open a post that is not marked and find it's about something that happened in the Canadian episode, especially when I am in Canada and get the day ahead but not as early as some. So they not only spoil it for the US but they spoil it for some of us Canadians as well..Even more discouraging when it's not marked and others will continue to comment. That means some of us have read it now and the ":book" is spoiled. I am the point that I just flag every violation I see now. Makes me look like a squealer but I'm tired of it all. Thanks mods!

[Moore ideas]

You make a very good point about Canadian viewers who are also dealing with air-time discrepancies.

[Rubythroat1]

Maybe there should be a thread in the Sticky Topics, to read the Sticky topics every time you post! I do. At least I look for the most current date of entries.

[Angeldar]

I do too Ruby. I've decided not to do weekend recaps anymore since I saw that Canadian spoiler of the "murder" and how many numerous people responded to it. That was on the Friday Canadian episode, not to be aired until Monday and yes, ok to put in a spoiler but the rules clearly state that it must be a FULL recap. You can't just put the juicy tidbit of that day in there. I think you have done recaps yourself and they take a lot of time to do just to have someone else take the best tidbit and post it. I spend an hour every Friday evening typing those things up but if this is what they are going to continue to do, then let them..This is about 3 weekends now I've had to flag them but it's always several hours before they are deleted and by then it's too late. and NO, I am not blaming the mods. They post the rules and those who are posting should abide by them instead of making those people have to take their time to delete their mistakes.

[clamcat]

Angeldar, are you referring to an old post or did this happen this weekend?

[Angeldar]

Clamcat...this weekend and the last two weekends...someone posted up the main thing that happened in the Friday Canadian show and put it as a Canadian Spoiler so naturally, everyone opens it and reads just that when it is the rules that you MUST post a full recap.

[Moore ideas]

As a moderator, I can only say that it's frustrating! We really do want posters to have an enjoyable experience here on SOC, and I think SOC's owner outlined his expectations for respectful posting very well in the guidelines. It's really just very basic stuff, like don't insult other people (posters, actors, writers); don't spill spoiler information where it doesn't belong; don't make racist, sexist, homophobic, ageist remarks; post clear topic titles; and so on. Not rocket science!

The moderators post sticky topics when we're having an ongoing problem with certain rule violations, and these advisories are meant to be helpful. If posters don't bother to read our advisories, then they're probably going to run into problems. Then, they'll complain later that they "didn't know" (even though they swore that they'd read and understood the guidelines, and there's also a prominent stuck advisory!!), or that the moderators are "making stuff up as they go along" or are "playing favorites".

I wish everyone could be a moderator for a week, and then you would know just how much we don't have time for those kinds of games. There are also checks and balances all over the place, so any moderator who was behaving inappropriately would be gone. Non-moderators can't see what we can see, but every action we take (no matter how minor) is dated and time stamped. And even though a post or a topic might be removed, every other moderator can still see that information. They can see what another moderator removed or, if they just edited a post, the other moderators can see what time it was done and they can see whether or not that action was appropriate. And so can SOC's owner. We're all accountable to multiple people, and there is no room for (or time for!!) shenanigans.

So everyone try this: Pretend you're in a job interview for a seriously well-paying job that you really-really-really want. Would you insult the interviewer? Would you make racist remarks about other employees you noticed on your way to the interviewer's office? Would you go off into a completely off-topic political rant when asked about your previous job experience? If you would, then that employer probably isn't going to want you there. The same thing is true here on SOC; we don't want rude people to remain as members of the site, after we've given them every opportunity to post respectfully. If you want to play here and enjoy sharing your opinions, then play nicely. That's all we ask!

Rubythroat1, great suggestion, but posters who ignore stuck advisories anyway, wouldn't pay any attention to the "READ ME" stickies either. That leaves the moderators with no other options except to select a punitive action, when posters continue to ignore what's meant to be helpful information.

And so, once again, DO NOT POST SPOILER INFORMATION ABOUT AN EPISODE UNTIL THAT EPISODE HAS AIRED IN THE UNITED STATES, EAST COAST TIME. Spoilers need to be labelled with the designated SPOILER prefix, and no spoiler information should be contained in the topic title. Spoiler information needs to be entirely in the poster's own words (not copied from another site), and its source should be mentioned.

Hope this helps.

[Angeldar]

Thank you! also, just want to add that if they do a spoiler of the Canadian episode, it needs to be a full recap of everything that happened in that episode, not just one thing. You mods do a great job.

[suezy]

As your rules state once the episode has aired in the US it is NOT considered to be a spoiler yet I have purposely waited until the US show has aired and still had my post removed and when I reached out for clarification the mods didn’t answer me

[Moore ideas]

Your topic may have been removed for other reasons, such as being a duplicate of an already-existing conversation, for having a vague title, or for numerous other reasons.

Moderators need to be contacted through direct email (found in our signatures, at the bottom of all of our posts) to answer questions about removals. I have searched my own email account and do not show any emails from your registered email address or containing your username. If you don't receive a reply from a moderator, then try sending the email a second time (your original one might have become buried under a deluge of inquiries), or try sending it to a different moderator. We all have personal lives and crises to handle, so one moderator might be distracted by personal emergencies or other obligations.

Hope that helps.

[xoregonian]

JCmojoe81 always, always, always answers me in a timely manner. You mods have a tremendous job trying to keep up with emails. Thank you.

[Moore ideas]

JCmojoe81 is all kinds of awesome!! I cannot even begin to say..., but I've decided that I'm going to adopt him as my very own son! (His own mom might object, though.)

[JCmojoe81]

you guys are both too kind, this exchange made my day!!! Thanks for making me smile!!!