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As,I remember it Brooke wanted Thorne who was married to macy. Brook saw Macy at restaurant. Knowing Macy was a recovering alcoholic she sent an alcoholic drink to macy. This is similar to what Shelia did to brooke. Karma a b$%&- brooke.
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Yes she did, she also taunted Macy into a deadly car accident. (Macy was brought back from the dead a few years later) Brooke was her passenger, Macy was sober but Brooke kept taunting her about Thorne leaving Macy for Brooke etc. Brook is and always has been VILE -
I believe Macy was with Deacon by the time of the alcohol sending... Nick had arrived on the scene by that time.. Macy was helping Deacon gain custody of Hope at that point and that's why Brooke was mad at her..Comment
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So, Brooke tried to undermine Macy's sobriety?? Taylor shot Bill and left him to die. The act was similar to Sheila shooting Steffy in the alley. Does "Karma a b$%&" apply to Taylor as well.Originally posted by Friz4ever View Post
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Taylor flew into town and shot that man in the back on bad information.
I expect more from a renowned psychiatrist.
She may not have listened though because Ridge sure didn't. He disregarded everything Steffy said, and probably still believes it to this day. -
There’s a big difference in doing something (yes pretty OTT but it is a soap) because you believed your child had been raped and being a petty beotch whose nose was out of joint. She also told Macy not to marry Deacon or she’d prove that she could get him back ( with her legendary charms). As ever, Brooke has different standards when it come to her actions. -
maryg Actually, It was pretty obvious that Taylor went to Bill's estate to cause him harm. Taylor had a lot of time to think about what she planned to do before arriving at his estate. That said, I don't believe she momentarily lost it.
Bill surviving without having any lasting effect doesn't excuse what she did.
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What Taylorr did was wrong just as well as what Brooke did to Macy.Originally posted by Reesiecup View Post
One thing doens't excuse the other.
Apart from that...Taylor attacked Bill because she falsely thought he had raped her daughter.
Sheila shot Steffi to keep her dirty secret.
Quite a bit of difference, no?
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I'm not sure. Had Bill died, it would be a different story. Taylor didn't bother to speak to Steffy about it ~ what she thought/assumed doesn't change the result had Bill died. One can't use the fact they were mistaken as to the circumstances as an excuse to murder or in Taylor's case, attempted murder. Had Steffy actually been raped by Bill, I would react differently In that I would think he deserved it, although I would still think it wrong. Having said that, I do agree that Sheila is very different from Taylor in that she's a cold blooded murderer/psychopath.
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I'm not disputing the actions by both Taylor and Brooke were wrong. I'm not trying to excuse either one. The reason behind Taylor shooting Bill is irrelevant as Sheila thought she had a good reason to shoot Steffy as well. The point being that both caused injury by shooting a human being.Originally posted by Tahemet View Post
If we are to regard Sheila switching the labels as "Karma" for Brooke -- we should also regard Steffy getting shot as "Karma" for Taylor shooting Bill.Comment
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As a mother I can definitely tell you that if I believed my child had been raped then it would not be irrelevant. Sheila shot Steffy out of self preservation, Taylor lost her mind over what she had been told had happened to her daughter. I normally would say there’s no excuse for violence but if my child suffered what Taylor believed had happened to hers, then all bets would be off.
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Quinn slipped vodka into Brooke's orange juice. That didn't break her sobriety. Guess because Deacon wasn't there to help. ?
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Maybe as similar as offering a junkie drugs, or drugging him under the cover of it just being a vaccination.Originally posted by Friz4ever View Post
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Don't see Brooke's and Sheila's actions as that similar really.
Brooke's action had been very tacky - and Macy was aware of Brooke's doings and gave the right response and threw/spilled that drink into Brooke's face.
Macy never was tempted and didn't take one sip
(even recovering alcoholics don't have to skip supermarkets for good because they might break their sobriety if confronted with a bootle of wine or an beverage of alcohol).
You are definitely wrong if you offer an alcoholic knowingly alcohol, but no, you don't manipulate him or force him to drink.
AA treatment is supposed to teach people how to cope with such situations, how to cope with people who don't know that they are alcoholics and treat them like everyone else.
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Sheila didn't sent alcohol or offered Brooke a drink.
Sheila put alcohol into a bottle with the label "non-alcoholic champagne" and forced Brooke to break her sobriety, while Brooke was thinking she was following her AA protocol and drinking something non-alcoholic (and later continued to break that sobriety when she had already been intoxicated because of the (non-)harmless champagne.Last edited by viennagirl; May 15, 2022, 01:08 PM.Comment
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Ya, good point, Maryg. I didn't think of that. Taylor saw the gun, loaded it and shot him so it was technically premeditated, but.. Big Butt.. she didn't take the gun with her.. plus her reason for doing it was vastly different.Originally posted by maryg View Post
I mean, really? If Sheila was so worried about losing her son for switching a label, then what relationship did they have? You know? Yea, it was awful but ppl have done much worse and not lost their kids over it.
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Why didn't she run to her child that she thought was raped? She didn't speak to Steffy about being raped. She flew to town tried to kill him and left. As a therapist and mother she should have been with her child. A simple phone call would have worked but nothing for months. Not that any of this has to do with Shelia killing Finn or switching labels. Nothing Brooke has done in 30+ years gives a reason for others to get away with everything. Right and wrong doesn't change based on name or someone's past.
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Thank you Vienna.Originally posted by viennagirl View Post
Awesome post.
***Brooke's action had been very tacky - and Macy was aware of Brooke's doings and gave the right response and threw/spilled that drink into Brooke's face.
Macy never was tempted and didn't take one sip***
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This is what always seems to be forgotten when bringing up the past.
I am curious why karma should visit Brooke and no one else?
Taylor can get a free pass because she thought Bill raped her daughter, yet she didn't try a wellness check on Steffy or to even have a conversation. Yeah...
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Macy’s sl was ongoing and she worked at her sobriety. She was a very sympathetic character. Since they did this just so Brooke could be in a sl she has no place in it’s hard to have the same outrage over it . Brooke’s alcoholism hasn’t been an ongoing sl so I it it’s just brought up to make her a victim or solicit sympathy. They should try harder if that’s what they want for her. She needs to fall hard not get away with everything as usual.
Brooke did that to Macy because she and Deacon became involved and Brooke didn’t like that so was petty and nasty on her part .
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To me there are two angles to this comparison between Brooke's drinking and Macy's alcoholism.
The first is that this is supposed karma for the way Brooke sent a recovering Macy a drink, as well as her cruelty to Macy when she was drinking. Both these situations are actually quite different from what Sheila did to Brooke - in some ways not as bad (because Macy was aware that Brooke was sending her a drink), and in some ways worse (because Macy's addiction was always written as more severe and life-threatening than Brooke's supposed drinking problem - Brooke never really struggled to stay sober and she didn't relapse more than that one night).
The second angle is that Macy actually DID go through the exact situation that Brooke went through. Sheila pushed Macy off the wagon pretty much the same way she pushed Brooke off the wagon, resulting in a similar outcome. BUT unlike Brooke, Macy was never vindicated. Macy believed she fell off the wagon on her own, and nobody spent three months questioning why she drank. Sheila's part in breaking up Macy and Thorne was never exposed. And while Brooke was drunk but conscious when she kissed Deacon, Macy was unconscious when Anthony kissed her (and might well have been raped if Thorne hadn't walked in), and she was STILL blamed for it.
The writers are putting Brooke through the same thing Macy was put through, only when it's Brooke everyone makes a big deal out of it and tries to understand how it all happened, whereas Macy was just left to suffer quietly with nobody ever knowing she was a victim of Sheila's scheme.Comment
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