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    I think this story was done to make everyone sympathize with Brooke. But the more it goes on, on, on I don't feel anything. Sure what Sheila did was wrong but Brooke blaming the alcohol for kissing Deacon when she was willing to sleep with him behind her daughter's back and even conceive a child with him without any alcohol. I am so tired of weepy Brooke. She can berate, interfere in everyone's else's life but we are suppose to sympathize with her? I hope even when it comes out Sheila switched the bottles Ridge leaves her. The biggest question: Why was Deacon in Brooke and Ridge's home for New Years? Hope has a cabin and that is the beginning of the issues.

    After all Brooke has done over 30 years, she will never have my sympathy. She always wins and it's so unfair.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Theresa_Fan View Post
    I think this story was done to make everyone sympathize with Brooke. But the more it goes on, on, on I don't feel anything. Sure what Sheila did was wrong but Brooke blaming the alcohol for kissing Deacon when she was willing to sleep with him behind her daughter's back and even conceive a child with him without any alcohol. I am so tired of weepy Brooke. She can berate, interfere in everyone's else's life but we are suppose to sympathize with her? I hope even when it comes out Sheila switched the bottles Ridge leaves her. The biggest question: Why was Deacon in Brooke and Ridge's home for New Years? Hope has a cabin and that is the beginning of the issues.

    After all Brooke has done over 30 years, she will never have my sympathy. She always wins and it's so unfair.
    ITA. No sympathy for Brooke from me, either.
    This "Logans always being the victims of big bad Steffy/Tom/Taylor" idiocy isn't working: first of all Brooke has hurt too many people over time for me to feel bad for her, and her mini-me is getting well-trained to become just like her momma, albeit maybe not in the strict sense Brooke did (Brooke uses/depends on sex, Hope on fake morals and making everyone believe how good she is... she lives for the adoration people/her fans/family bestow upon her).
    I much prefer a character like Steffy who isn't perfect, who recognizes her flows and apologize.
    Last edited by SteamForever; February 7, 2022, 09:49 AM.

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    • artsy4$
      artsy4$ commented
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      I know, Brooke has never been my favorite, but I don’t think it’s right that her drinking is triggered by something evil Sheila did!!

      I think it’s wrong to make somebody start drinking that has an addiction. Yes even Brook!!

      Is Brooke to blame for starting to drink again? Her actions with Deacon were all the actions of an drunk alcoholic. Look how Regretful he feels now!!!!

      I remember the times she was cruel to QUINN but let’s be honest QUINN is just as bad as Brooke and someways. She kissed her sister’s husband, etc…

      And if the LOGAN’s are held in such high regards….who are to blame for that??….the Foresters men!!

      They are the ones that brought the Logans into the fold.

      The women of Forrester could do without them.

      I wish she go ahead and tell Ridge———just pull the
      Band-Aid off!!!

  • #3
    I guess we're supposed to believe that Brooke has finally changed, but viewers know it isn't true. If it were, Brooke would have shut Deacon down from the day he reappeared and set boundaries to protect her marriage as Ridge made it crystal clear that he didn't want to encounter Deacon in his home. The idea that there could be no compromise to make both Ridge and Hope happy was absurd. Brooke could have suggested that Hope and Deacon to see each other without giving him free access to her property as well as freedom to make overtures to her.

    Brooke has cried a river for over a month now, wailing that she's certain she'll lose her marriage if Ridge learns about the kiss. Why wasn't she concerned that Ridge could have overheard Deacon telling her that sex with him was the best she'd ever had while she stood there and enjoyed the memories?

    While I have sympathy for any alcoholic who breaks their sobriety, I can't feel anything for Brooke in this situation. She was allowing Deacon to act inappropriately while she was stone cold sober. On top of that, she has been lying to Ridge's face by having him believe that she's distraught over her drinking when she's actually concerned only about his learning about the kiss.

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    • #4
      I don’t sympathize with Brooke because she wouldn’t be in this mess if she simply told Ridge the entire story in the beginning. She only told Hope because Douglas saw the kiss and was figuring out it related to her father ghosting her. If she had told Ridge when she told him about the drinking, he would have spouted a few “I told you so” about Deacon and blamed the whole night on him. Now she looks guilty of doing far more than kissing Deacon; and she looks that way due to her own choices. So no, no sympathy at all.

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      • #5
        no sympathy here, she knew what she was doing. Kept Deacon close is what she wanted. Wearing lingerie when Deacon came back, no effort to change. So many chances to modify the situation before or during but didn't, then keeping secrets and brainwashing Douglas. This is what Brooke is and does, this is not an exception, so no sympathy here imo.

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        • #6
          This emphasizes that Ridge and Brooke are not some destiny couple. Neither of them have the basic trust to be honest with each other. And Ridge is emotionally and verbally abusive to Brooke and I don't believe that abuse can coexist with love. He tried to hurt her daughter to get his way and that *should* have been the end for Brooke. He leaves her when she does something he doesn't like and there's a backup waiting in the wings for him because heaven forbid Ridge should be without a woman. He's as codependent as Brooke in his way.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by nykarenb View Post
            I don’t sympathize with Brooke because she wouldn’t be in this mess if she simply told Ridge the entire story in the beginning. She only told Hope because Douglas saw the kiss and was figuring out it related to her father ghosting her. If she had told Ridge when she told him about the drinking, he would have spouted a few “I told you so” about Deacon and blamed the whole night on him. Now she looks guilty of doing far more than kissing Deacon; and she looks that way due to her own choices. So no, no sympathy at all.
            This is spot on. Especially as Ridge has been so close to her and concerned for her thinking her angst is due to the drinking only. She now knows she can't hide this. If she thinks Thomas and Steffy are egging Douglas along then she knows the "I was drunk" excuse isn't going to get her through this mess.

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            • #8
              I don’t think there’s any agenda by the writers to get people to sympathize with Brooke. I would think they know by now that there are people who will never like or pity Brooke just as I am sure they know there are Brooke supporters.

              So for this story, those who don’t like Brooke can be entertained by seeing her in trouble and those who do like her can rally behind her.

              The writers main goal is to get people to watch, no matter what side they’re on.

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              • #9
                I am in the No Sympathy camp myself. After the destruction and heartache Brooke has caused over the past 30 years with her "destiny" baloney and her signature "I made a mistake" excuse and then smugly getting in other peoples' faces after she has committed even worse acts, she will never be a victim to me. She deserves everything coming her way.

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                • #10
                  I do t feel sorry for that trouble making tramp! Over the years that witch has gone out of her way to expose others for secrets and lies and ruining lives and marriages , she has everything coming

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by ILoveBizzie View Post
                    I don’t think there’s any agenda by the writers to get people to sympathize with Brooke. I would think they know by now that there are people who will never like or pity Brooke just as I am sure they know there are Brooke supporters.

                    So for this story, those who don’t like Brooke can be entertained by seeing her in trouble and those who do like her can rally behind her.

                    The writers main goal is to get people to watch, no matter what side they’re on.
                    I feel like this story is losing viewers based on reading comments online. I'll have to look at the ratings but Brooke is quite boring IMO.

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                    • ILoveBizzie
                      ILoveBizzie commented
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                      creation Yeah I mean I get it, there are times I tune out too. And even as a Brooke and Hope fan I rarely like the stories.

                      I don’t really think Brooke is on a pedestal though. She has her characters who like her and characters who don’t. They all do. She has her ups and downs and so do all the characters, when they’re on that is.

                      I just think the show is too repetitive and not adventurous enough and all the characters are suffering because of it.

                    • creation
                      creation commented
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                      ILoveBizzie, I agree. You're right, the show is very repetitive right now, and not adventurous enough either. You don't even have to watch, because the same dialog is repeated every day, that you're really don't miss anything....that drives me nuts, lol.

                    • ILoveBizzie
                      ILoveBizzie commented
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                      creation Right? Lol That’s why I can go days without watching and not have a hard time catching up.

                      It’s like the feel like they have to remind the audience every day of what we saw like…the previous day…..

                  • #12
                    Originally posted by ILoveBizzie View Post
                    I don’t think there’s any agenda by the writers to get people to sympathize with Brooke. I would think they know by now that there are people who will never like or pity Brooke just as I am sure they know there are Brooke supporters.

                    So for this story, those who don’t like Brooke can be entertained by seeing her in trouble and those who do like her can rally behind her.

                    The writers main goal is to get people to watch, no matter what side they’re on.
                    The problem that I have with that idea is that, in the same way that Hope has been written since AN took over the role, we know that Brooke will end up being seen as Sheila's victim and absolved of any responsibility for her prior actions with Deacon as well as her lying to Ridge for weeks. In the past, there was an ebb and flow of "wins" and "losses" for Brooke, but that doesn't exist any longer. Instead of it taking years for Ridge and Brooke to get back together, it takes months, and some other character will be thrown under the bus for that to happen.

                    I will be pleasantly shocked to see something different happen, mainly that Brooke would decide that she enjoys Deacon's undying love and wants to give their relationship a try, but I am not expecting that to happen. It's in much the same way that Hope lost, but didn't lose her baby,and we knew from the get-go that Beth would end up back with her. In the meantime, we got to see Liam move in with Steffy and Thomas thrown under the bus with his obsession with her, but in the end, Hope, Liam, and Beth went back to their HEA. We saw that with Liam's killing Vinny which was solely angst for the Lope relationship as Liam's cover-up was completely ignored in the end.

                    The bottom line is that I am not entertained when I can anticipate the outcome. Again, I can dream that I'm wrong!

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                    • ILoveBizzie
                      ILoveBizzie commented
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                      RedheadTeacher I honestly wasn’t sure how long they’d drag out the secret. So I never saw Hope bonding with Douglas, the Thope things…I only read about it.

                      I don’t really think Steffy or Taylor were thrown under the bus because they didn’t do anything wrong.

                      Thomas was, yes, but he came back from it all and is now considered one of the good guys again.

                      As for Liam…he just treats every woman as disposable and easily replaceable and I have no faith in him whatsoever not to do it to Hope again too in the near future. I can never support a pairing with Liam because I don’t trust him. Imo Steffy didn’t lose anything by losing him but unfortunately the show writes it that she thinks she did and therefore her fans may not be able to see her having Finn as a true win.

                      That’s what they did with Ridge and now Liam:despite there being men that are actually nicer, the women forgive and forget the way Ridge and Liam can be, don’t appreciate the nicer guy and when the other guy does do something wrong, his sins are made out by the writers to be worse than Ridge or Liam’s.

                      I already knew it but watching the old eps again is reiterating it for me.

                    • RedheadTeacher
                      RedheadTeacher commented
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                      Taylor was raked over the coals by viewers despite the fact that Carter checked out and approved of the paperwork. Posters said that it was Taylor's fault for letting the doctor know that her daughter was looking to adopt a baby and that she should have questioned the amount that he asked for in spite of the reality that wealthy people are in reality willing to pay exorbitant fees for private adoptions.

                      Steffy had the baby girl she had bonded with and mothered for 7 months yanked from her home, and, except for a scene of her crying as Lope departed with Phoebe/Beth, there was absolutely no follow up. Beth magically adjusted to being taken from her mother and sister and her home without any adjustment issues and Steffy and Kelly's feelings of loss were completely ignored. Even Liam went for nearly two months without seeing Kelly. While the writers didn't trash her character, they did a great disservice by not including that side of the story and ignoring a major character.

                      I turned on Ridge when his relationship with Brooke turned into a yo-yo being pulled back and forth between Brooke and Taylor. I dislike Liam even more for the same behavior but done in record speed. I am hoping that he stays with Hope forever at this point, though I have sympathy for SC as he has demonstrated, through snarky comments, that he is as disgusted with Liam as I am.

                    • ILoveBizzie
                      ILoveBizzie commented
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                      RedheadTeacher Well I don’t really go by what the fans say because they are going to have their opinion and that’s the way it is, but the show didn’t portray it as Taylor was doing anything shady with the adoption.

                      I do agree Steffy losing Beth should have been addressed more. It feels like at that point though the show was ready to move on from Beth and get into Hope getting Douglas. I felt like we barely got anything with Hope and Beth either before they moved on to the Douglas story.

                      Oh I don’t expect Lope to last forever, no couple does. I think they just gave a lot of Lope to the Lope fans because there were many years Hope wasn’t even on and also there were many years Lope fans (and I speak as how I felt) didn’t get a real payoff. No legit marriage, no child.

                      But now they can say they gave Lope a payoff and split them up and pair them with others…until they want it again…the nature of soaps.

                      Btw I forgot to address Breacon. Bridget isn’t on but it would still feel wrong to me after how Breacon started. To me they will never be viable.

                  • #13
                    it's hard to sympathize with a character like Brooke, who never shows any sympathy for anyone else, never apologizing for anything, even when she's wrong, and who is quick to judge others and point the finger at them, when they've done something that she doesn't like, even if her hypocritical ass has done the same thing! That's why no one has any sympathy for Brooke, and can't stand her.

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                    • #14
                      Originally posted by RedheadTeacher View Post

                      The problem that I have with that idea is that, in the same way that Hope has been written since AN took over the role, we know that Brooke will end up being seen as Sheila's victim and absolved of any responsibility for her prior actions with Deacon as well as her lying to Ridge for weeks. In the past, there was an ebb and flow of "wins" and "losses" for Brooke, but that doesn't exist any longer. Instead of it taking years for Ridge and Brooke to get back together, it takes months, and some other character will be thrown under the bus for that to happen.

                      I will be pleasantly shocked to see something different happen, mainly that Brooke would decide that she enjoys Deacon's undying love and wants to give their relationship a try, but I am not expecting that to happen. It's in much the same way that Hope lost, but didn't lose her baby,and we knew from the get-go that Beth would end up back with her. In the meantime, we got to see Liam move in with Steffy and Thomas thrown under the bus with his obsession with her, but in the end, Hope, Liam, and Beth went back to their HEA. We saw that with Liam's killing Vinny which was solely angst for the Lope relationship as Liam's cover-up was completely ignored in the end.

                      The bottom line is that I am not entertained when I can anticipate the outcome. Again, I can dream that I'm wrong!
                      It's yet another story and Brooke wins. This is the problem with the character. She lost back in the day but she never loses anymore. No fun.

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                      • #15
                        It is hard to have any sympathy for a character that will inevitably come out smelling like a rose. No reason to invest in any tears for a character that will soon be doing a victory lap with the entire cast vying for the chance to bow the lowest in eternal reverence once the chosen one has been vindicated. It is nauseating.

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