Quinn finally being honest with herself

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  • tollyfan35
    Senior Board Member
    • May 2018
    • 1723

    Quinn finally being honest with herself

    when doesn't know if being eric's wife is enough for its time for eric and quinn to end their marriage
  • RedheadTeacher
    Aspiring soap scribe
    • Feb 2006
    • 21663

    #2
    I believe that things turned for her after Eric's proposition the night before. Eric has slammed the door on her face as far as sharing any intimacy, even cuddling, and then belittled her relationship with Carter by pushing him to be her side piece. What is left of her relationship with Eric?

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    • PeaceOut
      PeaceOut commented
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      I agree. If it were just no sex, then she could have dealt with that, but Eric is not doing anything else with her either.

    • Jasamfan
      Jasamfan commented
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      It comes across as "I have ED, my fingers have been amputated and my tongue is broken. Please, Carter, please her for me, you owe me."

      Quinn has been telling him (and Shawna, which Eric overheard) that she loves him so much she'll deal with it, for him and instead of finding other ways to be intimate, he's trying to pass her off on someone else. Eric doesn't respect his wife just like he didn't respect Stephanie.
  • Jasamfan
    Board Regular
    • Mar 2005
    • 1228

    #3
    My husband has ED and we are perfectly happy WITHIN our marriage. I'm 46, he's the only man I've slept with and we're happily in love. Eric is an idiot and totally gross.

    If my husband were to suggest this, I'd shut him down. If he persisted I'd have him in therapy. If that didn't help I'd have to reconsider our relationship.

    The suggestion alone isn't the problem. It's the fact that he didn't discuss it with her, refuses to listen to her, has no desire to please her in other physical ways and refuses to see that she's unhappy about what he's suggested. If he had discussed it with her first, he'd know it isn't something she wants, but Eric doesn't care.

    Eric is all about Eric.

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    • Mariko
      Mariko commented
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      I actually think he THINKS this is coming from a loving place. For Eric his being able to perform sexually has always been a HUGE part of his identity and self-worth. I think he honestly believes that since he can't satisfy Quinn in the way he feels he should be able to, him giving her the option to sleep with Carter still, yet have a loving marriage with him, is the next best thing. And while I think there are still other things they could still do, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having an open marriage. It's a very satisfying thing for a lot of people. Monogamy is nothing more than a moral construct created by society. If anything multiple partners is a much more natural state of being. (more partners means more chances at reproduction, and thus a better chance for the species survival). Monogamy is a pretty new concept created by religion, only recently in the history of our species.

    • NuttyAboutSoaps
      NuttyAboutSoaps commented
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      ITA, Mariko. You saved me a lot of typing. LOL

      That being said, it all depends on each person's values and needs. If someone wants to be a virgin at marriage and only sleep with one person for a lifetime, good for them. However, that doesn't mean that those choices are right for anyone else.

      Some people don't meet the right person until they are 40 or 50, which means they bring a lot of experience to the table when they finally meet that person (some of it good, some of it bad). And, some people never find "the one," which is fine, too. It's not my place to impose my values on someone whose experiences and expectations are totally different than mine.

      In this case, Eric definitely thinks he is coming from a good place because HE would never be satisfied in a sexless marriage and he doesn't think anyone else could be, either. As a result, he thinks this gesture is noble.
  • viennagirl
    I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
    • Aug 2011
    • 9192

    #4
    Originally posted by Jasamfan View Post
    My husband has ED and we are perfectly happy WITHIN our marriage. I'm 46, he's the only man I've slept with and we're happily in love. Eric is an idiot and totally gross.

    If my husband were to suggest this, I'd shut him down. If he persisted I'd have him in therapy. If that didn't help I'd have to reconsider our relationship.
    But going by your words your circumstances are totally different.
    You have NEVER strayed in your marriage.
    Why would he assume that you need someone else if you are already that happy?

    Why would he think that if there never has been unhappiness?
    It would be totally gross for your husband to push you onto someone else, to bring up that suggestion again if you had rejected it already.

    The suggestion alone isn't the problem. It's the fact that he didn't discuss it with her, refuses to listen to her, has no desire to please her in other physical ways and refuses to see that she's unhappy about what he's suggested. If he had discussed it with her first, he'd know it isn't something she wants, but Eric doesn't care.

    Eric is all about Eric.
    ITA that Eric should have talked with Quinn first.
    I haven't seen much communication ever between them.

    When Eric started to have his trust/ intimacy issues with Quinn, he pretended to stay up/ go to bed early - and Quinn made Carter her confidante/ then her lover, instead of openly addressing to Eric her unhappiness and how she misses intimacy/ needs to feel to be desired.

    If they had a good and honest marriage, Eric would have told her about his issues and that he was going to ask for medical advise, was going to a therapist.


    Eric is Eric (there has been a scene when ex-wife Stephanie even had to be the one to tell current-wife Donna that Eric was taking viagra like pills for his sex life),
    but I don't really see that Quinn having sex with Carter would make Eric happy.

    He seems to expect his marriage to implode again and to safe it by making Carter a part, but going by his looks in the bedroom, that isn't something that makes him happy either. (Makes me wonder if he would be able to deal with it for long if Quinn and Carter really take his offer).

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    • Appaloosagrl
      Senior Board Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 1784

      #5
      I can't watch this dreck -- this story line is offensive on every level. Just plain creepy.

      Eric is "pimping" Quinn out and dangling Carter in front of her as though Carter is an object for sale. It's insulting to Quinn and Carter. But ultimately Eric demeans himself the most with his actions. This is not the way a loving husband behaves.

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      • PeaceOut
        Contract Poster
        • Dec 2011
        • 3087

        #6
        Originally posted by Jasamfan View Post
        My husband has ED and we are perfectly happy WITHIN our marriage. I'm 46, he's the only man I've slept with and we're happily in love. Eric is an idiot and totally gross.

        If my husband were to suggest this, I'd shut him down. If he persisted I'd have him in therapy. If that didn't help I'd have to reconsider our relationship.

        The suggestion alone isn't the problem. It's the fact that he didn't discuss it with her, refuses to listen to her, has no desire to please her in other physical ways and refuses to see that she's unhappy about what he's suggested. If he had discussed it with her first, he'd know it isn't something she wants, but Eric doesn't care.

        Eric is all about Eric.
        Well said. This type of storyline turned into a drama, while there really would have been none, if Eric just told her: Look i have ED, but i hope cuddling and stuff like that can be enough.
        If Quinn still would have cheated on Eric after initially saying it was enough, then yes Quinn would be at fault.

        But Eric has not offered that at all. Quinn is getting no affection from Eric at all, because Eric alone made up his mind that she needs to sleep with Carter.
        I will not feel sorry for Eric if or when Quinn grow attached to Carter.

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        • RedheadTeacher
          RedheadTeacher commented
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          I agree. Quinn was aching for intimacy, not sex. She said that Eric had pulled away from her both physically and emotionally. He clearly wasn't sharing something that was front and center in his mind. He said that he's sought help, but he kept Quinn in the dark about all that.

          Eric was acting selfishly then, and he's continuing to do that now. He's telling Quinn what to do and ignoring her objections and concerns. He refuses to even talk about it. In the end, he'll push her back to Carter, and it will be totally his own fault.
          Last edited by RedheadTeacher; September 16, 2021, 03:14 PM.

        • JTDMom
          JTDMom commented
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          Absolutely agree Red!!

        • Evianfan
          Evianfan commented
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          RedheadTeacher you are speaking all truth. I'm trying to figure out what's so great about what Eric is doing. He's being completely insulting to Quinn and Carter and being a selfish ass in general. Why didn't he sign the divorce papers and get himself a puppy?
      • JJ1
        I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
        • Mar 2009
        • 7704

        #7
        Originally posted by RedheadTeacher View Post
        I believe that things turned for her after Eric's proposition the night before. Eric has slammed the door on her face as far as sharing any intimacy, even cuddling, and then belittled her relationship with Carter by pushing him to be her side piece. What is left of her relationship with Eric?
        Has Eric not heard of sex aides....I mean not to be crude.....but vibrations?????

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        • RedheadTeacher
          Aspiring soap scribe
          • Feb 2006
          • 21663

          #8
          Originally posted by JJ1 View Post

          Has Eric not heard of sex aides....I mean not to be crude.....but vibrations?????
          Good vibrations?

          What bothers me is that Eric isn't happy in the current situation and neither is Quinn. How blind is he to not realize that his current actions are simply extending the behavior that made Quinn feel lonely and unloved in the first place?

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