Question for Hope fans: If Thomas has a tumor would u forgive?

[Lakergirl 04]

I have a question for Hope fans. Thomas is supposed to get redeemed this year. If we learn he had a mis diagnosed tumor would you forgive him, and possibly root for Thope? If he completely changed and never hurt her or her family again? I think Annika and Matt have steaming chemistry, and I definitely take them together for a little while. No they don't have to be forced on us like chemistry free Wyatt and Flo. If Those could happen organically would you accept it if Tomcat was NOT scheming anymore, or keeping anything from Hope could they work as a genuine couple?

I hate everybody in that horrid triangle, but I can take Hope when she is NOT in scenes with Liam. She works better. Steffy can have him, and free Hope to fly on her own. I don't know she made me slightly like her, when she WOULDN'T ditch Douglas, to be with that loser! I respected that and could rock with her, with some changes. I like AN and think she deserves a Emmy for her work. Along with MA.

I think when Thomas returns, I love if he fought for his shares at FC, and he has been in treatment with a licensed professional. Not his quack mom. As long as we saw him be a GREAT dad to Douglas, buying a home of his own and leaving his treacherous sister alone. I don't want Thomas kissing Liam or Steffy behind. Who do nothing but throw him under the bus.

Anyway could u take Those giving it a real try, with no manipulations?

[B-Hold]

Thomas IMO doesn't need forgiveness. Hope did similar things to get Liam way from his wife and to get Douglas away from his father. If Thomas needs forgiveness, so deosn't Hope. Actually more so because she tried to kill Thomas, as did her mother. Further Thomas was acting out of grief, Hope was not.

[Lakergirl 04]

I want them to move on. Annika has Sparks with Darin,, but Wyatt has his hands full. Thope have tons of potential and hotness. You can see it Everytime they have scenes alone.

[Anotherwoman]

Uh no she did not. Are you forgetting that when Hope ( a virgin) was engaged to Liam, (he was with Hope first) she threw herself at him sexually? Got engaged and married after multiple tricks and actually engaged and married with the rings Liam bought Hope.

[B-Hold]

Anotherwoman _ Sorry I don;t understand what you're saying. Hope came back from Milan to break up STEAM. She wnated Liam. She lied and manipulated him. She was helping him cover up a crime(turns out he didn't do). She worked over time to create a wedge between Liam and his daughter Kelly. She cheated on him while married to him. She was obsessive with Phoebe and then with Douglas. She violently shoved Thomas and left him for end. She openly admitted to Brooke that she was going to use Thomas's feeling and manipulate him. Hope was emotionally abusive to Douglas. She used and exploited Douglas's grief to suit her own agenda and needs.

[ILoveBizzie]

Yes but I’m still not interested in a Hope/Thomas pairing. I would rather a new man be hired for her. Thope will always be weird to me because of the time when she was raised in his household while he was an adult.

[Bill824]

Technically Hope was born 18 years ago but Annika is 33 so age is not really supposed to be a factor in this

[ILoveBizzie]

It still bothers me because of old episodes where Thomas is DTB and Hope is the Pace twins. It’s even weird to see JMW in scenes with the Pace twins, like in an old Christmas ep. I am not a fan of how B&B has done SORASing.

For example, Felicia was a grown woman at the wedding of Beric and Bridget wasn’t even conceived yet, but years later the two were close in age and competing for the same man. It’s corny.

[viennagirl]

ITA with you ILoveBizzie.
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I didn't felt so strong about it between Rick and Steffy, they never on screen have grown up in the same household, except for family events like Christmas, they never have shown much interaction while Steffy and her sister still had been played by child actresses and Rick already had been SORASed to be an adult....
BUT we had Thomas and Hope living together while BRIDGE were married.
- At the time of Taylor's return, the TRIDGE kids referred to Hope as their "baby sister".
- we saw 18 year old Thomas talking to 4 year old Hope, when she had to move out, and the little girl gave Dolly (her doll) to her big "brother" figure.
- While Hope was on screen and almost drowned because she had lost her swimming wings, we had Thomas married to Gaby - and then Thomas together with his sisters visited Hope at the hospital and they told little Hope they would take her to the zoo when she was better.

It is too incestious for my own taste, because thanks to BRIDGE's on-off relationship, Thomas and Hope for times have grown up in the same household, had been on-off siblings - and Thomas acting as a big brother figure for Hope (or Thomas at least watching his two sisters when they wanted to change Hope's diapers, offered Brooke to look after the baby...).

[Sharkswin]

For me, I don't care how he's "redeemed", I will never ever see Thope as a viable couple..or root for them at all. It is forever tainted in my mind.

[B&B blonde]

Thomas problems stem from the counseling he was getting ..

[Bill824]

Hahaha so true

[Xyla]

I'm all for Thomas being redeemed because I think that MA is a heck of an actor, given half a chance. However, he won't even have a quarter of a chance is he's sacrificed yet again at the altar of Hope, since all of her plot lines center on her, regardless of whom she's paired with--that is, all of her partners play a supporting role in her trauma-drama du jour, never the other way around. Either leave Hope with Liam and shove Lope so far off-screen that they get as many meaningful appearances as Charlie for a good, long time (equal in length at least to the time Hope dominated every breathing moment of the show) or have it be her turn to have no real relationship, or even a date, for as long as Steffy's not had one. Fair's fair, right? But really, I'd prefer the former, and, in the meantime, Steffy gets involved with someone who can match her mettle who isn't interested in someone else simultaneously--and who wants to be an involved male presence in her little girl's life. As for Thomas, he comes back cured and gets his child back from Lope when it's revealed that Hope, all along, was only interested in shared custody to take Douglas away from Thomas permanently and completely and that, gee, she sorta forgot to report the fact that she thought she'd played a part in his "death." Douglas finds out about that latter bit of business and his Mommy Hope worship ends. While he's working on pulling his life back together and reaffirming his bond with Douglas, maybe he meets up with Sally again because she's also trying to pull herself together. Maybe they even meet in some kind of support group. And very, very slowly they start to rebuild a friendship that could lead to something more--two broken people helping each other be whole. Which, of course, could be met with suspicion, if not downright disapproval, from many quarters, which could lead to other conflicts that could be explored. If Wyatt wants his childhood sweetheart so badly, let him have her--and then find out that perhaps wanting her is not nearly so satisfying as having her because what we want at sixteen is not necessarily what we need at thirty-something. So eventually he can dump her for, say, Zoe, if she's still around unless she's with Carter, which I'd be fine with, too. No reason Carter has nothing to do other than perform weddings for all the white folks. Give him a story line already.

[GlitterGlamDiva]

I love everything about this!

[Jadey]

Thomas lied and manipulated, but the only thing he did that was actually seriously wrong or life changing to Hope was not tell her that Beth was alive in order to marry her. The rest of it was run of the mill games and he used Douglas to play them.
Hope broke up her own marriage. Thomas had nothing to so with it and started her own campaign of games to get Douglas after the wedding and she had Beth and Liam back.

So.. if his lie about Beth could be caused be a brain tumor then yes, by all means, forgive him and Move On! ?

[Bill824]

I disagree, Thomas did 3 things that were criminal. Dangerous driving leading to Emma’s death and drugging both Hope and Liam.
The lies and manipulations are bad but not compared to actually harming people.

Either way he’s redeemable because it’s tv not reality

[B-Hold]

Bill824 - Emma was already driving dangerously and had to swerve in order to prevent hit because she cross into on coming traffic. Thomas did not cause Emma's death. Thomas also did not drug Hope, ever.

[gaby1985]

I have a question for Hope fans. Thomas is supposed to get redeemed this year. If we learn he had a mis diagnosed tumor would you forgive him, and possibly root for Thope? If he completely changed and never hurt her or her family again? I think Annika and Matt have steaming chemistry, and I definitely take them together for a little while. No they don't have to be forced on us like chemistry free Wyatt and Flo. If Those could happen organically would you accept it if Tomcat was NOT scheming anymore, or keeping anything from Hope could they work as a genuine couple?

I hate everybody in that horrid triangle, but I can take Hope when she is NOT in scenes with Liam. She works better. Steffy can have him, and free Hope to fly on her own. I don't know she made me slightly like her, when she WOULDN'T ditch Douglas, to be with that loser! I respected that and could rock with her, with some changes. I like AN and think she deserves a Emmy for her work. Along with MA.

I think when Thomas returns, I love if he fought for his shares at FC, and he has been in treatment with a licensed professional. Not his quack mom. As long as we saw him be a GREAT dad to Douglas, buying a home of his own and leaving his treacherous sister alone. I don't want Thomas kissing Liam or Steffy behind. Who do nothing but throw him under the bus.

Anyway could u take Those giving it a real try, with no manipulations?

The guy deserves redemption, so why punish him keeping him stuck on poison Hope?

[Jadey]

The guy deserves redemption, so why punish him keeping him stuck on poison Hope?

Oh.. thanx for reminding me, Gab. I almost forgot.
Yea.. move on as in NOT with Thomas! He's been through enough. Yes.. redemption, not punishment. Keep the Lope dopes together ..safely away from him and all future victims!

[KendallSam]

This Hope fan still likes Thomas ?

[Historia]

Thomas kept Beth from Hope and he was abusive to Douglas.
That’s a deal breaker. There is no coming back from that tumor or no tumor, IMO.
Bell isn’t interested in pairing Thope.
Thomas just needs to move on with another love interest.
He could try again with Sally but I wouldn’t wish a sociopath on her after everything she went through.

[B-Hold]

Thomas was the last to find out. Why does Flo, who accepted $50,000 for actually SELLING the babyget to skate and not Thomas who only knew 2 weeks?

[PeaceOut]

B-Hold Flo has nothing to do with the fact Thomas is highly unstable all on his own.

[B-Hold]

gaby1985 - Yes, prior to the re-cast and the rewrite Thoams was OVER Hope. Shew was a big nothing to him. However Thoams did walk away form Hope twice. Completely left her alone and she went AFTER him. Hope manipualted and used him, making him worst.

[Soapwatcher7]

What does he need to be redeemed for exactly? He didn't tell them their daughter was alive and they took his child from him. Eveyone was angry that thomas was going to marry zoe who he didnt love but was in love and infatuated with hope. So why is it wrong only for thomas? Didn't hope do the same thing twice both to wyatt and thomas since she's always known only liam is her true love. How many mens lifes and marriages did brooke destroy and marry them knowing ridge was her destiny? Why did liam keep lying and toying with steffys and ivys lives and affections when his dream has always been hope? Why did ridge marry anyone else when its always been brooke? Yet if thomas does it one time, hes the devil?

its sad that thomas has to be used to prop them instead of his own storylines since there are so few foresters left on this show. Thomas could be shown to have the same excuse she had overwhelming grief and have he and steffy work on reconciling their relationship through family counseling together. Let them deal with the crappy feelings from childhood and just as they are moving on let them receive word that taylor has died in africa. Thomas then moves on and startsvto build a real new life with zoe.

[Bill824]

Nothing to forgive because Hope almost killed Thomas and used his son to get over her loss. Hope would be better off with Thomas than Liam because at least the man she’s with would be committed to her but Hope is clueless.

[Jadey]

I disagree, Thomas did 3 things that were criminal. Dangerous driving leading to Emma’s death and drugging both Hope and Liam.
The lies and manipulations are bad but not compared to actually harming people.

Either way he’s redeemable because it’s tv not reality

That stuff isn't what Hope would need to forgive him for.. it was indirectly related to her but didn't harm her. She doesn't know about Liam being drugged and when did Thomas drug Hope??
Imo, the worst thing Thomas did was to his son and that again does not need to be forgiven by Hope. She's not devine.. doesn't need to forgive anybody.

[Bill824]

I can’t remember if Thomas drugged Hope or he was going to. Yes it was wrong to manipulate his own son but I can see how in his mind he believed it was best for Douglas

[Jadey]

Nothing to forgive because Hope almost killed Thomas and used his son to get over her loss. Hope would be better off with Thomas than Liam because at least the man she’s with would be committed to her but Hope is clueless.

Good point, Bill824.Little miss sunshine is more than even with Tom plus she got his son. He needs to forgive her.?
However, as we've stated before.. Thomas needs redemption.. not punishment.. not Hope!
#LopeForever!