Hope, you can't just steal a kid.

[ekek]

I love TK playing Ridge. He's powerful and forceful without bullying.

He told Hope, you can't just steal a kid. She questioned, did you just say that to me? It went right over her head.

Liam is actually making sense about the seriousness of terminating Thomas' rights. Brooke says it's not open for discussion. Ridge isn't having it!

[Xyla]

Brooke thinking it's not up for discussion is hysterical. Of course it's up for discussion, you twit. Especially now that the Forresters, the ones with the legal standing you're afraid of, have found out what you've been up to behind their backs. If this mess ends up in court, it will be all about discussion, and it's unlikely you and Hope would have a leg to stand on then. I can't believe I'm saying this, but listen to Liam. He's actually making sense here in a whole lot of ways. Now that Ridge is there, he needs to stand up and agree with him that Lope adopting Douglas is a rush to judgment that may not be best for anyone long term.

[DangeressBeauty]

Well Hope isn't trying to steal anything. She's trying to take it. Legally. There is a difference. Ridge just said that to Hope to hurt her. That's something Brooke and Ridge have in common: they both treat each other's children terribly.

[lndailey]

Rick is the only child of Brooke's that Ridge has treated terribly and tbf they are brothers and Rick is a spoiled brat just like Ridge so it's not an issue of Ridge treating Brooke's son terribly as much as it is him treating his brother terribly. He's nothing but kind to Bridget and has always been supportive and fatherly to Hope

[Sunspots]

Hope and Brooke are absolutely trying to steal a kid, and not just from his father but from the rest of his family. That's why Brooke is pushing for Thomas to sign before anyone with legal rights can come take Douglas from them, that is why she is trying to do it secretly without talking to Ridge, Steffy, Eric or anyone who is actually Douglas' family and may have a different opinion or option. She's not doing this on the up and up, she's trying to take a kid away from his father and his extended family using manipulations and lies and cut them out of the kid's life as revenge against Thomas whom she has deemed unfit when she's the one who is being obsessive and was the one being violent.

[JTDMom]

Hope and Brooke are very much trying to circumvent the legal system. That is illegal. Hence Brooke’s statement about getting it done quickly before anyone with a true legal standing can make a move.

[creation]

Everything goes over Hope's head, because she so intent on getting what she wants, that she's deaf to any other reasoning except her own and her witch of a mother! Nothing Liam or Ridge says matters to her, because she wants what she wants, period!

[0riginalD0nDada]

Well Hope isn't trying to steal anything. She's trying to take it. Legally. There is a difference. Ridge just said that to Hope to hurt her. That's something Brooke and Ridge have in common: they both treat each other's children terribly.

Yeah they’re trying to steal the kid no matter how you put it. If they feel Thomas is such a threat then won’t they suggest any of his BLOOD relatives take him in?

[DangeressBeauty]

There is a difference between slipping something in your pocket and walking out the door than going up to the counter to pay for it. Hope is trying to Take a child not Steal it. Stealing is what Thomas and company did to Hope.

[veryoldatwtfan]

When Hope tries to trick Thomas next week perhaps it will fit your definition of stealing. It already meets mine.

[thecourt99]

Because his blood relatives don't agree that he's a threat. Ridge has had ample time to do something and Ridge knows what Douglas said about how his tummy aches when Thomas is being Thomas. Ridge doesn't seem to see an issue with that, so why not take it to court? Maybe that will force Ridge to do something, if for no other reason than to help his son keep custody.

[Sunspots]

In Hope's mind what she's doing isn't stealing a kid. The girl is delusional!

And Brooke, wow, her desperation was showing big time with the push to get Thomas to sign before anyone showed up to take Douglas, that just proved her drawing up those papers has absolutely nothing to do with what is best for Douglas and everything to do with her desire to hurt Thomas and reward Hope.

[voice of reason]

I. MO Bell is trying to pull a fast one by making it feasible to like Hope. He has done this since she returned from Milan but has done the opposite for me. I was indifferent to her when she returned. I could have liked her but not when he paints her as wholesome and good and inserted herself into Steam's marriage. Both Liam and Steffy didn't see the need to discuss their problems with her but like a dog with a bone she wouldn't let it go. She did this knowing there was an innocent child involved. Had Hope waited and Steam not reunited that would have been one thing but when she listen to her obsessed mother and went after a married man who by the way could have filed divorce papers but didn't there is NOTHING wholesome and good. Now she is a lying twit telling Thomas he can see Douglas whenever he wants but then Brooke and her are talking about keeping him away from Thomas at all costs doesn't seem to have any wholesome or good qualities. And how in the world does this make up for her pain about him keeping the secret? This insufferable twit is lying through her teeth to get what she wants. This is her normal habit as she was just spewing lies about how Liam would always take care of Kelly knowing fully well she would be wondering if Liam would cross the line any time he is around Steffy otherwise she would have confronted Liam instead of Steffy, Liam may want to take care of Kelly but Hope will always try to come between them. I don't think there is anyway Bell could ever make me like Hope or Brooke or Liam even a tiny little bit. Bell and I have different definitions of wholesome and good.

[LnF]

When you're trying to force someone into signing away their parental rights, in court that is literally stealing. If someone threatens your business and force you to sign it over to them and you go to court, guess what, the judge will say they stole it. You can't force people into doing things when they keep being adverse to doing so. When other's say no in more then one way then it's no.

Hope is trying to steal Douglas and Ridge knows it. Brope is trying to force everyone's hand and they are looking real crazy over it.

[Xyla]

And even if you feel Thomas isn't the right guardian for Douglas, Hope and Brooke have acknowledged that part of the reason they want to move so quickly is that they want to get legal, permanent custody before anyone with "legal standing" gets involved, so if they aren't trying to "steal" Douglas from Thomas, they most assuredly are trying to "steal" him from anyone the courts might more logically place him with if Lope/Brooke simply reported Thomas to CPS. This isn't about keeping Douglas "safe" from Thomas. This is about keeping him because they don't want anyone other than Lope to have him, even if there are other viable options where he would be perfectly safe, as Liam has pointed out.

[LnF]

Ding ding ding!! Xyla

[TooFree4You]

It is stealing. Brooke says Thomas is mentally unstable but believes getting him to sign papers in that state would be justified? Legal? Hope is no better. She is obsessed with Douglas and looking crazy as a bag of cats. Steffy has already told her she is NOT Douglas’ mother! So this was an attempt to undermine blood relatives rights including Ridge. Brooke simply doesn’t care.

[voice of reason]

You are correct. If Thomas is mentally incapable to raise Douglas then he is mentally incapable of signing any legal papers. It is indeed stealing a child and not legal.

[ekek]

Xyla, you nailed it. They are in an all fire hurry because Hope wants Douglas. His adoration feeds her ego. So Brooke is going to snatch him up before his real family finds out. She's trying this over the objection of her own husband. Ridge has been gone a couple of days. Her hurry tells the story.

[YDoIStillWatch]

I love TK playing Ridge. He's powerful and forceful without bullying.

He told Hope, you can't just steal a kid. She questioned, did you just say that to me? It went right over her head.

Liam is actually making sense about the seriousness of terminating Thomas' rights. Brooke says it's not open for discussion. Ridge isn't having it!

I wonder if she thinks "it's ok because he did it to me." She keeps glossing over the important points Liam is making.

Brooke doesn't have to discuss it anymore now. Ridge and the rest of the Foresters will now know and hopefully deal with the situation themselves.

[windchime]

I have to laugh. Poor Liam, thinking that Hope or Brooke would actually listen to him and value what he has to say.

[LnF]

Right, poor tink tink lol.

[ekek]

Sorry? What did he say? I don't listen either. His opinion is what Hope says it is.

[Sopranojenn]

I wonder if she thinks "it's ok because he did it to me." She keeps glossing over the important points Liam is making.

Brooke doesn't have to discuss it anymore now. Ridge and the rest of the Foresters will now know and hopefully deal with the situation themselves.

Thomas DID NOT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER IN ANY FASHION STEAL BETH!!!!!!

The idiota writers can do all they want with the dialogue to try and blame Thomas for the baby steal. BUT FLAT OUT 100% THOMAS. DID. NOT. DO. IT.

REESE AND ST. FLO THE LOGAN STOLE BETH


thomas kept the secret yes. But no more than Zoe, Xander, Flo, anyone who overheard.

They are trying so desperately to make Thomas the big villian over Beth but we SAW WHAT HAPPENED.

Thomas wasnt even in the STATE until maybe 3 weeks before the secret came out. He had absolutely ZERO to do with stealing g Perfect Beth from the Golden Womb of Hope.

[LnF]

They're not making Thomas the villain over that, everyone but Brope have pointed out Thomas didn't do the switch or steal Beth. It's about the secret, it's only Brope that wants to play that narrative and it's not working.

[YDoIStillWatch]

Right. Thomas had nothing to do with stealing Beth. In Hope's mind he kept Beth from her so perhaps she wants to do the same to him. That was what I was getting at in this post.

[yay_olli]

Oh I'm loooooooooooving this!! I cheered when Ridge told Hope she was stealing a child. It's great seeing those two witches not get what they want. And I was glad to see Liam being a rare voice of reason!

This is just good stuff. I'm so into B&B right now lol.

[SoapsBurn]

The funny thing is that Liam looked like he wanted to nod along in agreement with Ridge everytime the camera panned to him. The only time he looked mildly offended was when Ridge said Douglas should be raised by a blood relative and not Hope or Liam. I also love how it's not at all being remembered that Liam is in fact blood related to Douglas. But he is arguably a Forrester in name and association as is his father and grandfather before him.

[Reesiecup]

I love TK playing Ridge. He's powerful and forceful without bullying.

He told Hope, you can't just steal a kid. She questioned, did you just say that to me? It went right over her head.

Liam is actually making sense about the seriousness of terminating Thomas' rights. Brooke says it's not open for discussion. Ridge isn't having it!

It's going right over my head as well. Hope is not trying to steal a kid. Presenting legal adoption papers that requires Tom's signature does not equate to stealing.

[yay_olli]

The stealing comes in when she's trying to manipulate and feed on someone's vulnerabilities to get what she wants. She would not be coming by that signature very morally, imo.

[Batgary]

According to Hope and Brooke, Thomas isn't mentally stable. Ok, so IF they are right about Thomas, they are manipulating someone with mental problems into giving up their parental rights, which would be stealing a child.. They know they are wrong since they are doing it in a hurry before any of Douglas' blood kin find out and stops it. In my world that is stealing a child.

[Baby Bumblebee]

and stealing when Hope told Thomas to sign the papers -- you'll be able to still see Douglas. LIE!!

She told Liam and Brooke that they have to do everything to keep Douglas away from Thomas.
Once the papers are signed, Thomas will not see Douglas again unless he sneaks into a family get together.

[*Queenie*]

It's disgusting for Hope to imply that giving Doug to her is needed for Thomas to right his wrong. A child is not payment for good or bad deeds. I can't wait for this to blow up in her face.

[Beccaboo213]

Agree you eloquently captured what's wrong with the 2 crazy sneaky Logans.

[Mimicita]

How did she steal a child that was abandoned? Plus, Thomas doesn't love Douglas, he abuses him. Not the same situation at all.

[*Queenie*]

Thomas was pushed over a cliff and couldn't take care of his kid. That isnt abandonment. Sure he's been a jerk to his kid but a lot of parents are jerks. None of what's happened to Hope or Thomas' actions mean he should or will lose custody of HIS child. Hope is not owed a child. She has one. She should focus on that one and all the time lost. She doesn't need to legally erase Thomas in Douglass's life.