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    Pharleyfan4ever
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  • Pharleyfan4ever
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    I think you mean Jay Hammer (Fletcher) and the actress portraying Dr. Claire Ramsey. Esp. the ladder did not hold back. I could be wrong, but the producer or writer (Pam Long?) she was talking about was (I think) Jay Hammer's real life partner at the time (mid 1980s), so he was a little bit more careful with his words.
    Feel free to correct me, I am not really sure about the details here, but all in all a great interview. The actress portraying Claire, probably in her 60s by now, looked absolutely fabulous and was so full of energy, not holding back about anything.
  • Rosalia
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  • Rosalia
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    I never understood why Proctor and Gamble didn’t sell the show or characters. I understand they wanted out of the business, and CBS could make more money with shows that required lower production costs, but it wasn’t losing money, just not making as much as other shows might. That means it had value, but by ending a show of such venerable status meant P&G turned a product that had value into one that had none. Strange. In some ways, both P&G and CBS were premature in canceling GL and ATWT because the proliferation of cable and pay channels is so strong and there is such demand for programming right now that either show could have been moved to CBS+.

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  • Smithey
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  • Smithey
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    It was all about money and the bottom line. PGP didn't make any money on GL and ATWT. CBS made money, but they could make more on game shows/talk shows. Y&R and B&B, as much as I think they are a shell of their former selves, continue to make money for all involved.

    And like someone else said, put melting snowmen and women after Y&R and they would be number two, as well. LOL
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  • tosh
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    The website cannot be named on here and can't do pvt messages either. Guess i have to do some searching

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  • msan1025
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    Mr.Sami_Brady
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    Mr.Sami_Brady A soap opera about melting snowmen would be #2 in the American ratings if it followed Y&R. If they were so confident in it's viewership, they'd have adjusted their schedule to try and save all of their shows. And I know B&B is popular in Europe. That doesn't mean that it's a decent show. It's not. All the characters do is sit and talk about each other and everything moves at a snail's pace.
  • Mr.Sami_Brady
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  • Mr.Sami_Brady
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    B&B has an international following, especially in Europe (mainly Italy). That is one of the reasons why it has stayed the course and is #2 in the ratings.
  • msan1025
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  • msan1025
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    I started watching in the 80's when I was little and then kept watching through the 90's because I always got home as it was coming on. It was always so much better than Bold and the Beautiful. They could have easily cut it and ATWT down to 30 minutes each and booted B&B instead. Unfortunately CBS felt more loyalty to the Bell family.

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  • bekah23
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  • bekah23
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    I watched live for a short period in the 90s with Reva/Josh/Annie and then the stuff with Richard/Cassie. I, of course knew that CW was Annie on GL, but for some reason it didn't immediately click that yes she had worked with LW. Annie is the one that brought Cassie to town. CW has been so great with all this Smike stuff unraveling. I had been disappointed in what material she got, but she has really been bringing it the past month. I was like YES! There's the actress I remember.

    Awhile ago I found a (that site) channel that had a bunch of years with full episodes (or close to it) so I could really follow it. I was watching the 80s in the middle of the stuff with India and Philip and the channel got deleted! I was also watching on the other end in the 90s (the user was alternating what year they updated) with every Roger/Holly scene I could get my hands on. What a fascinating brilliant acting duo those two were. I only wish more of their stuff from the 70s was available. I was so sad when that channel went. Now I can only find sporadic stuff.

    I'd always heard about how JFP killed Maureen Bauer but didn't know anything about the character. It was just said in conjunction with all her colossal failures. That woman did so much damage to the soaps she was on. Every single one.

    One of my favorite Locher rooms is with Fletcher and ... can't think of her name. They did not hold back

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  • Jerze
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  • Jerze
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    The Guiding Light was my all time favorite soap opera. I loved most of the characters even the ones I loved to hate. It was well written, great acting, prior to the gutting of the show towards the end - wonderful sets. Those people knew what they were doing. I still miss it to this day. Wish that I could find that service I would start watching it all over again. As The World Turns was my second favorite. I had hoped that someone would have picked both shows up but unfortunately that didn't happen. Cie la vie.

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  • FleurdiLisa
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  • FleurdiLisa
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    I quit watching when Beth was presumed dead (again), presumed drowned (again), while trying to escape her abductor (again). And no one mentioned the sad irony of it happening to the same person, 15 years apart. It was like the writers had never read her character history. My bf was really into GH at the time so one afternoon I just skipped GL and never went back. But, TBH, GL had some of the best acting on daytime t.v. So many New York-trained stage actors. I still miss it from time to time.

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  • GuidingLite
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  • GuidingLite
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    Oh, I'd almost prefer to touch a hot stove than type 'it should have been cancelled' but honestly....having Reva choose Jeffrey over Josh? Maybe briefly, but.....not long term. I'm glad they fixed that.....killing off Ross? HUGE, HUGE, HUGE slap to viewers since the 1970s (like me)....Phillip going a bit bonkers before he disappeared was absolutely asinine......Beth marrying Alan and having his child was gross.....it was like I was watching a version of GL created by someone who had no idea of the history of the show.....and had no soul themselves.....it was tragic. I'd really have rather not seen most of the last two years....it was atrocious. So yes...I wish the life support had been switched off before the show format change that took place to 'keep it going'....I was glad the actors still had jobs...glad for them, but honestly...the show was crap for the most part from 2007 - 2009.
  • Smithey
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  • Smithey
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    After I posted my comment about it being canceled long before, I regretted saying that, because the last several years were VERY painful. I never cared for Gus and Harley together, but the way they broke them up (just one example) was terrible. How they treated their fans was despicable. The way they treated ALL GL viewers was despicable. After thinking some more, I don't regret saying that. I just wish PGP (or whatever it is called now) would have allowed someone who cared about the show to take it over before it stunk so bad.
  • GuidingLite
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  • GuidingLite
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    Guiding Light was a shell of its former self at the end. The shrunken or just disappeared sets....the 'hospital' exterior that had a drive up teller window...Tiki Hut Cedars emergency room....press conferences in the tall grass of a field.....some of the outdoor scenes were good, but so many were not....

    The show once had some interesting business stories....mostly centering on the never-ending power struggle at Spaulding Enterprises....but the final few years seemed to forget that Spaulding Enterprises even existed....we had Company still....we had Lewis Construction (after Lewis Oil dried up altogether)....but the other businesses we'd become accustomed to....Towers Restaurant, The Beacon Hotel, WSPR, all these places just disappeared over time....without a last gasp before they died out...you didn't see people at home any longer because they didn't have homes (sets) other than the Spauldings...Reva lived at some weird shack they called Cross Creek that looked NOTHING like the original...not even an attempt there.....the Spauldings were all apparently camping out in the library which had suddenly grown a spiral staircase and a balcony.....Rick Bauer lived in some little modular home from all appearances....and everyone else just slept in the field waiting for another press conference I guess......

    At least for 'the end' the show convinced Philip to return....they ratcheted up the drama by giving Philip a disease that was going to kill him....Alan FINALLY came through huge for his son....although it cost him his life....they reconnected Holly and Ed, and Philip and Beth....Rick FINALLY married Mindy....Michelle came home...and pretty much everyone (except Alan) got a happy ending....but the final few years leading up to this happy ending were terrible. I'd have rather had the show cancelled long before it was and a two hour tie up episode done to accomplish the same thing without such destruction of the once great Guiding Light they did for the last few years (minus the final six months).

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  • GuidingLite
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  • GuidingLite
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    I would have loved India around full-time no matter what, but imagine Hope coming back to Springfield? I'd have wanted a different actress....someone with some venom in them...but a jaded and bitter Hope coming back to Springfield would have been fun to watch....her going after Alan for how he treated her in the past...I think the only 'hitch' to this would have been her age in relation to her son Alan-Michael, who was aged from six to sixteen overnight....but I still would have loved to see her return...once Ed left the show there were just not enough Bauers around.....and there never were again.
  • Smithey
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  • Smithey
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    Honestly, I wish the show had been cancelled before it was. The last several years were terrible and wasn't ANYTHING like GL. The writing was abysmal and the direction attempted to leave long time viewers behind in favor of "new and undiscovered viewers." It was a poor way of showing appreciation for those who were committed to GL. Bringing back "fan favorite actors" for the sole agenda of getting "fan service" didn't help any. The death of Maureen started the ball of wax and it just got worse. During the last six months, the writing improved. Unfortunately, it didn't help to keep this once, great show.

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