Esme's Other Relatives Besides Kevin

[georgem]

Esme had a lot of relatives in Port Charles. Some living, some dead .Living : Heather , Steven Lars . Jake Webber, Drew Cain . Danny and Scout.
Dead: Alice Grant ,Susan Moore ,Jason Morgan, Franco Baldwin,Ryan Chamberlan.
Does that make her a Legacy Character ?

[raheast]

I guess. It is the only plausible reason to keep this abhorrent character on canvas.

[rkm137]

Jason and, now, Drew have never seemed to consider Heather family. I doubt their children or the mothers of those children would feel differently or that Esme herself would be much of an inducement to change that.

[Kristabell]

Actually Cameron made the connection to Franco back in March wondering if Franco were alive would he have been able to help Esme through her challenges 🤔 since Franco himself "redeemed" himself!

He then used that connection to Franco to talk with Esme and appeal to her that if she really wanted to be better then she she try and stop pushing others away!

[Q777S]

well she has a legacy of manipulation and scheming, but no i would not consider her a legacy character.

the family connections by ryan and heather were nothing more than retcon , its not like we knew about her for many years

[rkm137]

Salter I don't think people refer to Sam as a legacy character either. Heck, her connections to Jerome family and the Cassadines (beyond her mother and sisters) is rarely even acknowledged. Much like Heather's relationship to Jason and Drew is and was rarely acknowledged.

I mean, come on. Jason and Drew are Esme's second cousins. That's pretty removed.

[Q777S]

Salter of course it was a retcon, but i believe the thread is about esme 🤔

[Kristabell]

rkm137 I don't consider Sam a legacy character although I do consider the actress a veteran because she achieved her 20yr status on October 1st! She is 4th only to Maurice Benard, Nancy Lee Grahn, and Rebecca Herbst for reaching 20+ consecutive years on GH.....

[Salter]

Sam came to GH after swindling many men for their fortunes and some of them died in mysterious ways. It has been 20 years and she is still here. Esme is an angel in comparison imo

[rkm137]

It has never been seriously implied that Sam killed anyone. Some of her exes' heirs insinuated it. But the "mysterious deaths" wasn't ever put forth as a real thing. And it was established that Sam was conning people to support her brother, not out of malice or pure greed.

So, no, Esme is not and angel compared to Sam (or anyone). Sam certainly wasn't and isn't an angel either. But arson, malicious stalking, revenge porn, attempted murder, and drugging and framing people is a lot. Esme did A LOT.

[c83gilles]

Yeah Sam was one of the worst. But Esme is still the worst for me. Her revenge porn thing was pretty sick. 😫

[Q777S]

its amazing when when comments about a favorite character strike a nerve and then the comparisons to others come out of the closet as if they were a part of the original conversation.

yes sam blah blah blah
and helena blah blah blah
and tracy blah blah blah
and valentin blah blah blah

every character on the show has a less than desirable side of their character. so start a thread about how evil all the characters are and do a contrast and comparison and see how the favorites stack up against the less favorites

[ForeverPluto]

Bio relatives aside, what about her adoptive family? Heather dropped a tiny bit of info on Esme when she asked Esme about her adoptive parents. Evidently something happened to them and Esme may have either been behind it or witnessed it at the very least. I think she also had adopted siblings too although she wasn't very close to them.

[rkm137]

Bio relatives aside, what about her adoptive family? Heather dropped a tiny bit of info on Esme when she asked Esme about her adoptive parents. Evidently something happened to them and Esme may have either been behind it or witnessed it at the very least. I think she also had adopted siblings too although she wasn't very close to them.

I'm pretty sure Esme has said her adoptive parents have passed away and she has never been close with her adoptive siblings. I got the impression they were also a good it older than her. She could have been lying, of course. But things she said when with Ryan seemed consistent with her being pretty isolated most of her life and having only her nanny as a source of love and support (other than financial) growing up.

[OLTLBoomer]

I consider Heather as much legacy as Ryan Chamberlain.
Esme is related to Steven Lars, distant cousins to Drew, Jake, Danny and Scout. I cannot see any of the parents of these minor children allowing their children around Emse.
Kevin needs to tread very carefully with Esme as her closest adult relative.

[CarnyQueen]

I'm pretty sure Esme has said her adoptive parents have passed away and she has never been close with her adoptive siblings. I got the impression they were also a good it older than her. She could have been lying, of course. But things she said when with Ryan seemed consistent with her being pretty isolated most of her life and having only her nanny as a source of love and support (other than financial) growing up.

Esme did say that her adoptive parents had died and that she had siblings, also adopted, and they weren't close. Sam confirmed, when she was looking for Esme's former nanny, that the siblings existed but had nothing to do with and wanted nothing to do with Esme. The siblings may indeed be older because of the way Esme seems to have been raised with just the nanny.

Heather heavily implied that Esme had something to do with her adoptive parents' death, but I think it's far more likely that Heather herself, or possibly Ryan, murdered the parents. It's completely in Heather's wheelhouse to give up/abandon her baby and then be jealous of the adoptive parents. That's pretty much what happened with Steven Lars, isn't it? .

The big WTF in Esme's back story is: Who exactly was her guardian after her adoptive parents died? We know that Maggie the nanny she loved had to take another job. The other siblings apparently weren't around. But Esme did have a trust fund with trustees (that was confirmed when she said the trustees wouldn't let her access the income from it because they had heard rumors about her behavior in Port Charles). We now know that she made contact with Ryan and that he somehow arranged for her to be placed in Spencer's boarding school. But who was supposed to be in charge of this orphaned minor?

[Lil Fey]

whether a legacy character or not, Esme will always be boiling bunnies psycho to me

[maggiebh]

Where is Esme's trust fund and why can't she access it?

[CarnyQueen]

Esme stated in a scene with Laura and I think Spencer present that the trustees would not let her access the income from her trust fund (which she previously had when she first came to Port Charles) because they had heard stories about her behavior in Port Charles. Since Esme is no longer facing criminal charges and hasn't been convicted of a crime, this doesn't make any sense. I doubt Esme's adoptive parents set up the trust with the rule "If our daughter is convicted of a crime or rumored to be behaving badly, she can't have any money." It's a lame plot point, of course. But it's also another reason why Esme needs a lawyer -- not Martin Grey, whose fees were paid by his nephew Nikolas -- to advocate for her.

[varnish7]

CarnyQueen It's possible that Esme has a discretionary trust fund, which is a trust fund where the trustees have total power over the beneficiary's access to it. It's used in situations where it might not be a good idea to give someone full access to a significant amount of money, such as cases of addiction or mental illness. If that's the case, then Esme could still ask for money from her trust fund, but the trustees are under no obligation to give it to her.