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So Sonny is just trying to hurt Michael?

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  • tarheel715
    Scriptwriter
    • Jan 2010
    • 4685

    So Sonny is just trying to hurt Michael?

    So because Michael has supposedly been mean to him, Sonny is going to torpedo what's left of his relationship with Michael and testify for Nina and then whine about being the victim? You have got to be kidding me?

    In a way, I blame Dante for this. This is what comes of him sticking his nose in where it didn't belong and running behind Michael's back, telling Sonny everything they talked about. Trying to play peacemaker when no one asked him to.

    Yes Michael said a lot in anger, but he hasn't actually done anything to cause Sonny any actual harm. Sonny however, in some sort of pathetic preemptive strike against Michael for wanting nothing to do with him, is going to go on the stand, in a court of law, and testify against his son and then when that only FURTHER pushes Michael away, Sonny is going to somehow justify it by blaming Michael instead of recognizing that HE, Sonny crossed the line yet again for Nina's sake at the expense of his family. The very thing Michael and Carly have been fervently complaining about all this time.
  • Manninglover87
    I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
    • Dec 2009
    • 7740

    #2
    It sure seems that way. Nothing will convince me that he didn’t get up on that stand with the sole intention of hurting his own son. It’s funny. Sonny can’t get over Michael ‘disrespecting him’, but he’s just fine with Nina lying to him for half a year.

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    • Sioban
      Scriptwriter
      • Aug 2009
      • 4747

      #3
      Well, they deserve each other. They are intent on hurting each other. And I couldn’t care less. Let them destroy each other. The world will be better off with both of them gone.

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      • Eve S Dropper
        Eve S Dropper commented
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        Although I am on Michael's "side" in this mess, I couldn't agree with you more. They are both infantile and intolerable. Maybe they can agree to go on a year long father & son bonding trip and leave everyone else in peace!
    • OLTLBoomer
      Aspiring soap scribe
      • Mar 2010
      • 15885

      #4
      Warching the rerun on Memorial Day: seeing Sonny glare daggers at Michael as he explained where he was coming from. Sonny did everything he could not understand where Michael ( and the family’s grief and anger).

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      • tarheel715
        Scriptwriter
        • Jan 2010
        • 4685

        #5
        Yeah I noticed that too OLTLBoomer. Michael had some valid reasons why he doesn't want Nina near his son, especially her constant lying to him and Willow, which of course then makes her unreliable and untrustworthy. Michael expressed all of this to Sonny before and yet Sonny completely dismissed his concerns then and in court he was shaking his head like it was all lies or somehow Michael was misrepresenting Nina and the things she's done.

        Like you said Sonny was staring daggers as Michael, even though Michael was being made to answer for Sonny's decisions, namely covering up Claudia's death which wasn't murder no matter how dramatic and ridiculous Scott wanted to portray it. And don't even get me started on the Nelle was afraid of Michael crap. This woman terrorized Michael's family for YEARS, but now Nina and Scott want to portray her as some sort of battered victim. It's disgusting. Look at what she did to her first fiancé, or Brook Lynn, then tell me Nelle was a victim?

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        • Maxum
          Aspiring soap scribe
          • Aug 2005
          • 25459

          #6
          I really have no issue with Nina and Scotty in terms of how they went after Michael in the courtroom because that's what they're going to do. It makes total sense that Scotty would attack Michael to get Nina her visitation with Wiley. My issue with what happened in the courtroom is all about Sonny. Because what he did to his son is unforgivable. It's one thing to be upset with him because he feels he's been disrespected, but it's a whole different thing to literally go into that courtroom with the intention of betraying your son, which is what Sonny did. First, he supports Nina, then he asks to testify for her and against his son, and THEN, after witnessing his son having to relive the worst time in his life, he comforts NINA! Michael needs to completely disown his father at this point and just tell Sonny that his father died a year ago.

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          • OLTLBoomer
            OLTLBoomer commented
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            Good point. TPTB really illustrated that point by rerunning that specific episode. I had totally spaced all the nuances from that scene. It makes Sonny look even more reprehensible.
        • Brandy1981
          Executive Poster
          • Apr 2018
          • 3580

          #7
          Either that or his brain has died and he is in Lala land.All of it looks bad on him,but this has been his mo since NF and the purest wuv Nina.Michael should wash his hands because he can’t be redeemed at this CB point. I also want Michael to tell him “Jarly ran the business better and you should have never came back.”Go back to Nixon Falls and take your crew with you.

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          • Jenn216
            Board Regular
            • Jul 2015
            • 1322

            #8
            This is definitely Sonny’s fault 100%. He chose to do this knowing it would cause more problems to between him and his son. Actually proving Michael’s point that Sonny chooses Nina over his family over and over again. Dante should have stayed out of it. Not sure why he told Sonny that Michael is plotting to take him down. Especially since Michael doesn’t seem to have a plan to go after Sonny right now. Michael seemed to be preoccupied with ELQ and the custody thing

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            • DayRose
              DayRose commented
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              Dante should have stayed out of it. He interfered like Kristina did when she reported to Sonny that Carly refused to meet him half way, not sure of the exact wording. Both of them stoked Sonny's anger. I do agree that it is 100% on Sonny.
          • parker joe
            I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
            • Feb 2005
            • 8649

            #9
            First, I wouldn't blame Dante. These two were well down this path before Dante said anything. And I recall Drew set off Sonny's Spidey sense before that.

            Second, we know Michael is planning something. Michael wasn't even subtle about when he ranted about "restoring honor" to the Corinthos name. And that was while Sonny was officially staying neutral.

            Third,, I would argue that Michael, by pulling his end around to get the AG to press charges against Nina, weakened Sonny's reputation. Thus encouraging his enemies to make power grabs. And that endangers all if Sonny's family.

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            • Jenn216
              Jenn216 commented
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              I think now Michael will go after Sonny after the testimony but Michael didn’t have anything planned

            • parker joe
              parker joe commented
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              Michael SAID it. It was something like, Sonny has to go down, and I have to break him.

            • Jenn216
              Jenn216 commented
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              People say a lot especially when they are angry but Michael never had anything in motion at the time. Now Sonny made it worse by going for his family. I believe he pushed Michael
          • Q777S
            Soap Addict
            • Jan 2015
            • 7112

            #10
            part of me believes that sonny never really felt any paternal type of loyalty to michael . sonny adopted micheal because thats what carly wanted and it was a power brab for sonny over a prominent port charles family. michael was a weapon in the aj/carly/sonny war.
            being aj’s son who sonny hated because of carly’s influence i see no reason that in the end , sonny will, never respect michael or his wishes

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            • Jenn216
              Jenn216 commented
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              I think Michael was actually Sonny’s favorite kid at one time. Sonny changed since he came back.

            • raheast
              raheast commented
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              This is an interesting take. I agree that Sonny took in Carly and adopted Michael not out of affection but I believe out of loyalty to Jason. Jason told Sonny to go and get Carly and Michael from the Q's and protect them at all costs and that is what Sonny did. I believe he fell in love with both of them and Carly, along with Brenda is the love of Sonny's life. But it did not initially start off with Sonny wanting to be a father.

            • RomanticRosebud
              RomanticRosebud commented
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              It may have started that way but Sonny grew to love Michael as his own. He even told him a couple of times that even though he wasn't his biologically that didn't matter because he was his son 100% and out of all his children he was his favorite. That was even his beef with Aj because he was trying to take Micheal away when he returned in 2012. Sure that seems to be out the window now but Michael was way more than just obligation to Sonny.
          • DayRose
            I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
            • Oct 2020
            • 9553

            #11
            Sonny seems to only be able to love and understand Nina. It's like she has him brainwashed.

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            • MrsValentine
              Aspiring soap scribe
              • Sep 2009
              • 10296

              #12
              Sonny is beyond petty imo. He’s stupid and selfish. It’s one thing to disagree or disapprove of a decision your ADULT child makes but to purposely hurt them is despicable. He’s the worst kind of parent ( for MANY reasons), one who puts his ego and libido before his own son. Sonny makes me sick.

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              • bubsmom
                bubsmom commented
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                Typical Sonny "You're dead to me" Corinthos behavior, though. He lashes out when he's hurt or doesn't get his way.
            • MrsValentine
              Aspiring soap scribe
              • Sep 2009
              • 10296

              #13
              Originally posted by Q777S View Post
              part of me believes that sonny never really felt any paternal type of loyalty to michael . sonny adopted micheal because thats what carly wanted and it was a power brab for sonny over a prominent port charles family. michael was a weapon in the aj/carly/sonny war.
              being aj’s son who sonny hated because of carly’s influence i see no reason that in the end , sonny will, never respect michael or his wishes
              I agree that for Sonny screwing over AJ/Q’s was appealing but he did bond with Michael and as much as his twisted heart is capable of he does love Michael as his own. But Sonny’s parental instincts stink. Morgan is his bio son and Sonny knocked up Ava! He doesn’t care who he hurts not even his children. Sonny is ALWAYS first in his world. He demands loyalty and respect but doesn’t return the favor if it goes against what HE wants. Hence, Nina. He wants Nina and he expects Michael and everyone else to accept it and get over what she did to them. Sonny type of “love “ has always been conditional. He loves you as long as you fall in line. That’s something he has in common with Nina. I can’t wait until one of them betrays the other lol!

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              • Q777S
                Q777S commented
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                lol, his twisted heart ~ right about that !
                yes indeed sonny’s love is all about the conditions.
            • ValentinFan02
              Board Regular
              • May 2020
              • 509

              #14
              Michael vows to destroy Sonny....fine and dandy. Sonny decides he doesn't like it and isn't going to take it...not o.k. That is the tone o many on the board.

              What a strange way of looking at things. Michael is 100 percent at fault here in the current war. He insisted Sonny play the victim/get revenge on Nina, Sonny didn't cooperate because he doesn't feel he's the victim. Sonny just wanted to be with his family and let Nixon Falls stay in Nixon Falls. Instead part of his family (Michael and Carly) pushed him away when he wasn't the violent revenge machine they knew and loved. Michael is the one pushing and implying he's going to turn Sonny into law enforcement and destroy his empire while cleaning up the Corinthos name.

              Even dumber, Michael is supposedly so hurt by being without Sonny for a few months that he has now decided to destroy Sonny and keep him out of his life forever all because Sonny slept with another woman. Which he's done plenty of times before, as Carly has slept with other men before.

              The big thing is no one seemed to care that Sonny has mental issues, had a major injury that caused amnesia, and he was completely off the rails before Nina reigned him back in. They were all too busy wanting revenge and wanting Sonny to do things for them than to even consider his health.

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              • ValentinFan02
                ValentinFan02 commented
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                Michael has made it very clear he plans on taking Sonny down and hasn't been shy about saying it. Just because he's not done anything yet (that we know about) means nothing. Loose lips in Sonny's business mean one thing, even for family. See Fredo in the Godfather.

                It's also very much a stretch to say Sonny was meeting up with Nina constantly. That implies Sonny was contacting Nina for meetings. That didn't happen at all. Sonny clearly stated as many times as he could that he wanted nothing to do with Nina and just wanted to go back to his life as best he could. Carly and Michael wouldn't have that though. They wanted revenge and couldn't leave it alone.

              • RomanticRosebud
                RomanticRosebud commented
                Editing a comment
                Michael has every right to be angry at Sonny. Please Michael is not just angry at Sonny because he slept with another woman. He's been fine with his parents not being together before. He's mad at Sonny for sleeping with someone who caused his MOTHER and the rest of his family pain. A woman who set out to hurt Carly for revenge. Who kept Carly's Husband, his father Wiley's grandfather hidden for months. And Sonny is fine with this? Not only does Smike sleep with the psycho who hurt Michael's FAMILY over and over again and practically laughed in their faces when they grieved over Sonny. But Smike doesn't even care how his family feels about said psycho and chooses her over them. Plus, he throws her in their faces every chance he gets and expects them to just get over it. I think Michael has very valid reasons to be angry.

              • soapfan6
                soapfan6 commented
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                This is kind of how i see it as well!! Michael vowed revenge and to take down Sonny. Is Sonny suppose to stand by and let him take down everything he built.
            • 1sbkmcfan
              Aspiring soap scribe
              • Aug 2006
              • 20114

              #15
              I don't know that Sonny is trying to hurt Michael. I believe he said he was not going to stand by after Michael vowed to destroy him.

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