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I did not agree with Scotty saying they were victims of Michael's But they were victims of their parents. And Nell was a victim of her faux daddy and ONE of Michael's step-parents. To say they were nobody's victim is a flat out lie!
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I thought that in the context of the questioning he was saying they weren't his victims. He didn't allude to Jax, Frank or Madeline and neither did Scotty. He was talking about the years of endless attacks from Nelle and now Nina. That he and his family were the victims of them.-
oh no that no what scotty said he said that nelle and nina are michael victims, that the reason nelle hid wiley was because she was scared of michael when we all saw nelle give wiley to brad to punish michael and carly. i remember when nelle would always throw it in carly face that she knew something that she didnt. scott was way out of line with the comment
michael suffered too much at the hands of nelle and now he and his family is being tormented by nina, where nelle left off nina is continuting -
GH4lifer Scotty started the day off out of line. Yeah, I took Michael's statement in context of Scotty's questions. Like they all knew Nelle was a victim of Jax and Frank. Even Carly has said recently that Nina was Mad Mads victim- but I meant I didn't think Michael was implying N&N werent victims when he said "nobody's victim" he meant they're not his or his families victims like Nina love tell everyone.
I don't think I'm explaining myself well. My apologies!
So yeah I totally agree with what you said!
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Scotty came right out and said Nelle and Nina were Michael's victims. It was disgusting! I can't believe the judge allowed Scotty to go after Michael.Comment
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Nina was a victim of her mother, and later Ric Lansing, Nelle's father literally sold her kidney as a child, not to mention Jax displaying his privilege by bypassing all the people without his resources waiting on a legitimate list and buying a child's kidney no questions asked. So yes Michael in a general sense they are victims, although it isn't relevant in your visitation case.Comment
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So does the fact that they were both victims of their parents excuse all the havoc that each have created over the years in PC? I don't think so. The only way that Nelle's reign of terror ended was by her "death". No telling what will end Nina's since the writers seem bound and determined to keep her in our faces non-stop. Anyone who thinks Nina is done with her craziness is going to be sadly disappointed.Comment
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Scotty was flat-out wrong when he said that Nelle and Nina were Michael's victims. I'd imagine he could face some kind of sanctions. Officers of the court can't knowingly lie in court.
Sure, Nelle was Frank Benson's victim, and Nina was Madeline's victim. None of that had anything to do with Michael. And none of that excuses Nelle's two attempts to kill Michael, her decision to give their child to the first person she saw and then hand him a dead baby. None of that makes it wrong for Michael, having welcomed Nina into his son's life, change his mind and bar her after she has exhibited inappropriate and hurtful behavior.
As for Jax: Nelle wasn't really his victim either. Yes, Jax bought a kidney from Frank Benson, but he had no idea that Frank would carve it out of his own kid. He was looking for someone alive who would be willing to sell a kidney. Illegal, unethical -- sure. But what happened to Nelle is squarely on the shoulders of Frank Benson. And even if you do blame Jax, it has nothing to do with Michael. Michael is in no way to blame for this situation, and what happened to Nelle in no way excuses her crimes against Michael, Wiley himself, Carly, Brook Lynn and Zach.Comment
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As I said no relevance at all. It has nothing to do with the case. Was just responding to Michael saying they were nobody's victims. He's right tat they aren't Michael's victims.Originally posted by maggiebh View PostComment
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Instead of saying Nelle and Nina were nobody's victims I wish he had brought up Nelle's misdeeds, what she did to both Sonny and Carly and Michael, against everyone's warnings, decided to get with her and conceived a child with her anyway. And moved her into his grandmother's mansion just like he did with all his other girlfriends, with the exception of Abby. The arguments about Nelle should have had nothing to do with the grandparent visitation petition. So if the child's dead mother was brought into the case then all other bets were off.Comment
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Yes, they were victims of their parents but as an adult, Nelle did nothing but try to hurt other people because she was hurt...instead of trying to get past it and be try to move on. Sure, Nina was her mother's victim, even as a young adult, but once she was free and on her own, with all of the resources, she did not try very hard to move past it. Sure, she had help after she kidnapped Avery and got caught.. But she did not follow up and try to make sure she could fully function as a result of her past trauma at her mmother' hands. And this caused her to go overboard with her adult relationships and overdue things, in the not so healthy way, in her relationship with children...all stemming from a desire for her lost child and needing others to fill that desire. That is why she was so willing to believe Carly let Nelle fall on purpose, when at the time, she had no idea that Nelle was her daughter. And her insecurity about her place in Jax's life versus Carly was also a factor. But she definitely is not Michael or Carly's victim. In the last few years, she has played the victim to get people's sympathy and not have to pay for her wrongs. Everything bad happened to her because poor victimized, helpless Nina, with no power or monetary ability to help herself reclaim the narrative. Not true, once she reclaimed her life....jmoOriginally posted by bbgamer View PostComment
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Are you saying Nell's stole her own kidney? So she is her own victim?Comment
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