I can’t believe Sonny actually beg to speak in favor of Nina

[TVDfan]

Now I want Michael and Carly to speak in favor of Ava if she ever ask for visitation/custody.
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[SAMLEXIS FAN]

I believe it. Sonny knows Michael & Carly are using Wiley as a weapon against his grandmother. They're keeping her away out of spite because she's Nelle's mother & they want to erase that connection from Wiley's life.

As far as Ava goes, they've already written Ava's only option to get more time with her daughter is to persuade Nina to convince Sonny of it. She's not going to court.

[OTPJarly]

Sonny doesn’t know or care about such things.

Sonny’s feelings were hurt that Michael dare not fall at his feet and blindly follow him and that Carly wouldn’t just look the other way after she found him in bed with another woman. That is literally it. If Carly took Sonny back. He wouldn’t care to be on that stand.

Sonny is holding on to the one person he has left the one person he threw his family away for. That is it!

[TVDfan]

Nina is the only one responsible for not being near Wiley for not respecting the limits.

if she had done what she said in court she was doing… just coloring. She wouldn’t be on this spot.

You would think that she would have learned a thing or 2 from raising Charlotte.

[DayRose]

Nina never learns, she only makes excuses and plays victim.

[Fightcrab]

Nina is a much better person than Harmony who had access to Wiley.

[SAMLEXIS FAN]

Nina is the only one responsible for not being near Wiley for not respecting the limits.

if she had done what she said in court she was doing… just coloring. She wouldn’t be on this spot.

You would think that she would have learned a thing or 2 from raising Charlotte.

Wiley asked Nina how is she his grandmother. She told him she's his mother's mother but not Willow's mother (of course she's going to find out she is her mother too.) And that's why he told Willow she's not his mother. So Michael & Willow would have preferred Nina lie to her grandson?

Nina isn't a danger to her grandson; she loves him. Those idiots are punishing Wiley by preventing him from seeing his other grandmother. Hopefully, the judge is about to put an end to their nonsense.

[AnotherSonnyKid]

You keep saying that he asked but that is not true. He did not ask. I am not sure where you got that from.

[JCmojoe81]

AnotherSonnyKid I agree, from my recollection of the scene, Wiley never asked, she just blurted it out.
My daughter is adopted and I remember my jaw dropping when Nina told him that. That being said, my daughter has known she was adopted since birth, it was never a "revelation" but I was more shocked that Nina would mention it so cavalierly

[lala214]

I’m pretty sure when delusional Willow went off crying about REALITY, Michael demanded to know what happened. Nina told him Wiley asked her if she was Willow’s mom or something like that. That wasn’t shown on screen because the child actor could not speak very well.

In any event, Nina’s answer was fine. Willow is sick and delusional. I’m glad she didn’t lie to the boy. There is nothing wrong with Willow being his adoptive mother. Millow are just insecure, delusional, judgmental, hypocritical freaks.

[BlindLiberty]

I still do not understand why Ava (as smart and sneaky as she is) has not used the fact that Sonny is having a fling/whatever with the woman who abducted their child. I mean she would have grounds right there, and after today Sonny might be going back in the courtroom over Donna's custody.

[xoregonian]

Sonny has been holding information over Ava's head for a long time. I think it's the evidence that Ava shot Connie. Ava can't make a real move to gain full custody of Avery.

[BlindLiberty]

xoregonian well, see Carly got the info about Paul Hornsby and Ava, when she stole Ava's own blackmail video from her apartment. But then Paul was outed as a serial killer and then I think the Ryan dating Ava, Ryan murdered Kiki stuff happened, Spencer/Esme stalking stuff started - and I'm not sure where they land other than joint custody.

I mean, I honestly can't remember it's been so up and down of who had what on whom that I'm curious if anyone else remembers anything?

[xoregonian]

Wiley asked Nina how is she his grandmother. She told him she's his mother's mother but not Willow's mother And that's why he told Willow she's not his mother. So Michael & Willow would have preferred Nina lie to her grandson?

Those idiots are punishing Wiley by preventing him from seeing his other grandmother.

"Wiley asked Nina how is she his grandmother". Huh? Not exactly the way it happened.

Wiley could have been told anything, a birdy made Nina his grandmother instead of saying what she actually said to the little boy. An adult can usually answer a child with a more vague answer than "I'm your real, dead mother's mother". She wouldn't have had to lie, just be vague to the small toddler. Good grief.

Wiley is not being punished if he doesn't have contact with crazy Nina. The kid wouldn't even miss her.

[CarnyQueen]

You're right, that's not the way it happened. The actors who were playing Wiley at the time were too young to be relied on to say lines. When Willow and Michael left the room, NINA said to Wiley, "You're wondering how I'm your grandma." HE never asked. She launched into an explanation. And no, being deprived of Nina isn't a punishment for Wiley. And he probably won't miss Sonny either.

[SAMLEXIS FAN]

"Wiley asked Nina how is she his grandmother". Huh? Not exactly the way it happened.

Wiley could have been told anything, a birdy made Nina his grandmother instead of saying what she actually said to the little boy. An adult can usually answer a child with a more vague answer than "I'm your real, dead mother's mother". She wouldn't have had to lie, just be vague to the small toddler. Good grief.

Wiley is not being punished if he doesn't have contact with crazy Nina. The kid wouldn't even miss her.

That's the dialogue we got from Nina. She chose to tell the child the truth...I see nothing wrong with it. Michael's real problem was Willow's hurt feelings...nothing to do with Wiley. And he told his mother he can't have Willow hurting again.

The kid ran straight for Nina when he saw her at Ryce Plaza so I beg to differ on Wiley not missing Nina. He would be better off without his other grandmother whose not only crazy but toxic too.

[TVDfan]

That's the dialogue we got from Nina. She chose to tell the child the truth...I see nothing wrong with it. Michael's real problem was Willow's hurt feelings...nothing to do with Wiley. And he told his mother he can't have Willow hurting again.

The kid ran straight for Nina when he saw her at Ryce Plaza so I beg to differ on Wiley not missing Nina. He would be better off without his other grandmother whose not only crazy but toxic too.

The problem is that she picked the first visit to do it. She had the feeling that with Carly there might not be seconds and she had to do it to mark her territory.
Michael and Willow had already stated that Carly’s opinion was moot point that Nina was going to be in Wiley’s life.

Michael and Willow decided that it was best not to speak of Nelle because there was nothing good to say.
The least she could have done is respect that at least for the first visit at the very minimum.

[lala214]

Who cares? Why is it a bad thing? Is Willow not his adopted mother? Yup. Would Wiley even care? No.

[TVDfan]

I was just surprised he was the one to request’s to be put on the stand. I thought it was going to be Scotty that initiated it ignoring Nina’s request.

I hope that the bed Sonny made today is comfy.

Dante warned him and he did it anyways.

[BlindLiberty]

"Wiley asked Nina how is she his grandmother". Huh? Not exactly the way it happened.

Wiley could have been told anything, a birdy made Nina his grandmother instead of saying what she actually said to the little boy. An adult can usually answer a child with a more vague answer than "I'm your real, dead mother's mother". She wouldn't have had to lie, just be vague to the small toddler. Good grief.

Wiley is not being punished if he doesn't have contact with crazy Nina. The kid wouldn't even miss her.

I went back and watched the scene of her talking to Wiley. It comes in on her saying "I'm your grandmother, like grandma Carly, but I'm not you mothers mother, thats how we are related." She's got teary eyes and sad face. Poor kid just wanted to play with his blocks.

now before that scene Willow was making nice with Nina. Talking about coming a long way but Nina visibly reacted when Willow said "come with Mommy" right before that.

Carly came in to say goodnight to Wiley and in the middle of Carly and Nina talking in comes Michael and Willow comes in, Carly asks her whats wrong she says "Wiley just said I'm not his real Mommy." Willow and Michael are upset Nina ACTUALLY says " I didn't mean for this to happen. I was just being honest." And then stuff about her reading books about child rearing, Michael talking the therapist they've hired for Wiley etc. He talks about having a confused child and a hurt mother and that they need to take a break.

so we don't see Wiley asking Nina anything we just see her explaining to him what her blood relation is to him, and then trying to make a quick exit when she sees Willow is visibly upset.

She was upset that Wiley called Will 'mommy', she reacted when Will called herself 'mommy' -to me it was the start of Nina doing her "it's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" jungle warfare against M&W.

[xoregonian]

Thank you so much for taking the time to post what actually happened. I really appreciate it. People seem to see things differently, but the video don't lie. lol

[BlindLiberty]

For sure no problem. Gives me a new appreciation for the live thread posters. They talk so fast and their is so much dialogue!

[catster]

They have totally destroyed Sonny for me.. I will never like him again.. what a gross pathetic little man..

[xoregonian]

It was reported that the actor wanted to "go a different direction" than staying with Carly, etc. Well, he got his direction alright.

Can't stand this pathetic character. I still think he has a Traumatic Brain Injury that has gone undiagnosed all this time, since he fell off the bridge.

[catster]

I think an undiagnosed brain injury is the only way to save Sonny.. I am seeing so much hate for the character right now.. on Twitter MB is getting very defensive and is blocking unhappy fans.

[GH29]

Let’s say for arguments sake that Wiley asked Nina how they related , all she had to say is that she loves him very much and than talked to Willow and Michael , Michael specifically asked her not to mention nelle and she agreed to it of all the people Ava told Nina just before she left to see Wiley that willow is the mother and she should see her as such and she went there to see Wiley she heard willow call herself Mommy and she saw red .

[xoregonian]

All Nina had to say was "we are all family". But we know she said what she did out of spite for Willow staking claim as Wiley's mother.

Thanks again to BlindLiberty for the facts.

[Manninglover87]

That was pure spite. For weeks, Sonny has insisted that he would not take sides during the hearing, but as soon as Michael gets tired of his crap, he decided he needs to testify, even against Nina’s wishes. He did it solely to hurt Michael, and it’s pathetic. What’s even more pathetic is that when it failed, he pouted and huffed like a petulant child.

[mamafenocchi]

Everytime I see Sonny on screen, I just shake my head and say who is this? Who is this pathetic disloyal character trying to pass himself off as Sonny Corinthos. His character has been ruined beyond comprehension

[BlindLiberty]

You know, the show brought up the AJ story when Brook Lynn came home. Reminding the viewers of what took place and specifically that it was Carly's building a bridge between Michael and Sonny. Sabrina is dead and they want this to be about Sonny, Carly and Michael - it got me thinking.

During the AJ saga Sonny was yelling about breaking Michael or plotting against him. Carly was there pulling Sonny back from the edge, letting him vent, reeling him in etc. Keeping him focused on the appeal for Avery's custody and such.

At the Savoy when Sonny spoke to Carly I noticed a few things. One, she kept her voice level and flat, she rebuffed any attempts Sonny having a place in her life, and she didn't give him anything to manipulate her with, I was so proud! But my point is Carly isn't there to be a buffer between Michael and Sonny. Also she not *trying* to be a buffer or a bridge. Dante is trying but he isn't getting through to Sonny. And Nina obviously is not going to build any bridges to M&S's reconciliation.

so my question is how does this play out? Surely, it's on Sonny this time. I mean for once Sonny has to figure this out on his own without Jason or Carly or Dante. Michael forgave him for AJ now it's Sonny's turn. What say you?