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Still having a hard time believing Nelle is Nina's daughter

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  • Slim0911
    Lurking in the Shadows
    • Oct 2021
    • 7

    Still having a hard time believing Nelle is Nina's daughter

    Nelle knew about the necklace and that Nina was looking for her daughter. It doesn't make any sense that Nelle would not of played that card. She would have won her case if Nina stepped up as her mother in court. Strange that Dianne did not ask for a paternity test.
  • TVDfan
    Board Regular
    • Jun 2011
    • 1300

    #2
    Nelle and Nina are one of the same!

    I totally believe Nelle could be related to them

    Willow and Nathan on the other hand are saints not sure what happened there ?

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    • catster
      catster commented
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      They are identical.. both are vile mean bullies.. so selfish.. it is totally believable that they were related.

    • BettieCat
      BettieCat commented
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      Nelle is far more like Carly than Nina. She's Carly when she first came on the show, so she didn't have the PR and wardrobe current Carly does.
  • OLTLBoomer
    Aspiring soap scribe
    • Mar 2010
    • 15892

    #3
    Originally posted by Slim0911 View Post
    Nelle knew about the necklace and that Nina was looking for her daughter.
    Did she? the necklace was kept in Nelle's BOP. Nina did not always wear the necklace - she would wear it, take it off, keep it on her desk, and play with it, and put it away. Nelle never once discovered that necklace when she was working for Nina and snooping on her desk. I do remember that before the cusotdy trial because I thought she would find the necklace half - but she did not.


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    • SAMLEXIS FAN
      SAMLEXIS FAN commented
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      No, Nelle never knew about Nina's necklace.

    • BettieCat
      BettieCat commented
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      I find it hard to believe that Carly didn't demand a DNA test before allowing Nina to see the kid.
  • louisesnell96
    Board Regular
    • Mar 2020
    • 792

    #4
    I’m surprised that no one asked for a DNA test when it came out about Nelle

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    • Jenn216
      Jenn216 commented
      Editing a comment
      You are talking about a case 20 years ago because you can name one since. However Sam and Alexis were established by birth certificate if I remember and adoption papers. Also through Julian and Sam’s DNA test. Later they all took test to determine if they were matches bettDanny and Sam’s family when Danny was sick. Julian was a match. You don’t have any of that in this case. Could the writers have changed Sam and Alexis connection at one time? Yes they could have but now it would be more difficult. So basically Sam and Alexis are not a good comparison to Nelle and Nina which only connected by an eye witness 20 years later and a necklace both are easily explained away

    • JoanieGirl
      JoanieGirl commented
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      Good idea if it weren't for the fact that we all know what happens to dna tests at GH lmao

    • Jenn216
      Jenn216 commented
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      Yeah even with a DNA test GH writers there is a 50/50 chance writers will change results. So the fact that Nina and Nelle never had a DNA test done makes you believe it is almost certain they will change it. The writers don't even want the obstacle of trying to explain a DNA test. Only thing to connect Nelle and Nina is a necklace and a witness over 20 years ago.
  • OLTLBoomer
    Aspiring soap scribe
    • Mar 2010
    • 15892

    #5
    I don't (in regards to the title of the thread) and I think TPTB are a hoot for having Nelle as Nina's daughter all along.
    This is my opinion, and not based on anything but what I have watched on the canvas.

    Nina is a manipulative being - she is a documented controller of anyone in her life - from Silas to Sasha to Sonny.
    Having Nelle as her daughter is poetic justice in my humble opinion. The genetics are there. The environmental influences are there, and Nelle turned out to be a bad seed.

    That said, what happened to Nina by her mother was horrific - and that is a fact. Nina should be thanking her lucky stars that her mother did not kill her, and that she came out of the coma, period. But Nina is not thankful - she is revengeful. And that is why Nelle being her biodaughter makes this viewer laugh at the irony.

    As for the retcon, I do not like it. it is playing to the crowd, who has been howling ever since the reveal took place that is was not Willow.
    Granted, the soapy angst between Willow and NIna (both actresses) has been great, and many of us thought that it was Willow, only to be shocked and some, disappointed.
    Having Nelle as her daughter gives NIna something she must live with and never be able to explain away, which for a controlling person would be horrible. The angst Nina would have to deal with over the years (especially with Wylie) would be soapy goodness that would keep on keeping on.
    Having Willow as a live daughter having to overcome the aimosity of the years is a tried and tired soap trope - it has been played out with Bobbie and Carly and Alexis and Sam, and probably more that I cannot think of.
    It is an easy fix for a quick payoff making Willow a living daughter of NIna - and yes, we all are watching, but for how long?

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    • regalbeagle
      Contract Poster
      • Dec 2018
      • 2875

      #6
      I don't remember Nelle finding out that Nina was looking for her daughter.

      It would have been a big deal if Nelle saw that Nina had a half-heart necklace and was looking for the daughter with the other half.

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      • SAMLEXIS FAN
        SAMLEXIS FAN commented
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        That's because it never happened. Nelle didn't know Nina was looking for her daughter until she told her during the Wiley custody battle. Nelle never saw Nina's necklace & Nina never saw Nelle's necklace either.
    • TinkerTailor
      Scriptwriter
      • Sep 2014
      • 4694

      #7
      I don't believe Nelle ever learned about the necklace. Willow did, and looked shocked when she saw Nina with it, which is the first time I figured that Willow was Nina's daughter.

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      • wfreshie2130
        Executive Poster
        • Aug 2016
        • 3893

        #8
        nelle had 1 half in her box of pain and we saw her have it when carly visited fr a few minutes in that flashback...but nelle never saw nina
        wearing the other half and didn't know the significance....

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        • believeinme246
          Aspiring soap scribe
          • Jan 2015
          • 14768

          #9
          There was one episode where Nina had her half of the necklace on her desk and on this board, a number commented that Nelle was going to see it and create a fake other half to claim that she was her daughter (this was before the retcon where she had the other half), but she never saw it.

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          • OLTL'69
            Aspiring soap scribe
            • Apr 2011
            • 15904

            #10
            It was always a WT?? to me that Nelle did not hear of the necklace and the search for the daughter. Nelle was good at ferreting other's secrets and their pasts. I really can't believe she worked for Nina and never over heard or eavesdropped. BUT I guess that happened

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            • DayRose
              I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
              • Oct 2020
              • 9563

              #11
              In a way it's easy to understand that they are mother and daughter because they are both crazy psychos, but I still don't know why there wasn't a DNA test? A necklace means nothing to me. If it was done off screen why not mention it?

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              • SAMLEXIS FAN
                SAMLEXIS FAN commented
                Editing a comment
                DayRose In the real world, yeah, but this is a soap. Nina doesn't have to prove anything because everyone sees her as Wiley's grandmother already. That's what the writers decided & that's the way it's being written.

              • DayRose
                DayRose commented
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                Just wondering how you know what the writers decided SAMLEXIS FAN?

              • Jenn216
                Jenn216 commented
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                Writers haven't decided anything. They will change the story in a minute if it is a better storyline even with a DNA test. So the fact that they didn't do a DNA test tells me they are actually thinking about changing it or plan to change it. It is fine if you believe that the writers have somehow decided that Nelle is Nina's daughter but until they write the DNA test in the story it isn't decided and there is circumstantial evidence that Nelle is Nina's daughter
                Last edited by Jenn216; May 25, 2022, 07:45 PM.
            • Jenn216
              Board Regular
              • Jul 2015
              • 1322

              #12
              Yeah I have a difficult believing that Madeline a grandmother that gave her grandchildren away in a desperate attempt to control her daughters fortune would allow Phyllis to deliver the child and give her a neckless so she can later find her mom. Phyllis made it no secret she planned to make sure that the baby got a neckless to help her find Nina. I also have a difficult time believing that her father would not pawn the neckless, the guy sold his daughter's Kidney.

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              • rosamaira
                rosamaira commented
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                Even with the special clasp, no one wanted the necklace including the pawn shop.
                Money wise it was worth maybe $2.99, the value was sentimental.

              • OLTL'69
                OLTL'69 commented
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                The necklace was always a WT to me because Madeline would want NOTHING connecting the baby with the mother

                And I can sort of believe that a unique special necklace was played by a dollar store one. I doubt a real diamond played the ice princess
                Last edited by OLTL'69; May 25, 2022, 05:20 AM.

              • Jenn216
                Jenn216 commented
                Editing a comment
                I believe in the show it said a jeweler made the neckless to only fit the other piece. That is how they knew. I could be wrong but that doesn't sound like a cheap neckless
                Last edited by Jenn216; May 25, 2022, 11:42 PM.
            • PinkDiamond
              Aspiring soap scribe
              • Apr 2007
              • 18466

              #13
              The way I remember it is...both Nelle & Nina were exactly alike...but they never realized that... or that Nelle had her necklace and Nina had her's...and neither of them were aware the other had the matching half...because if either of them did they would have more then likely figured it out
              Last edited by PinkDiamond; May 24, 2022, 06:31 PM.

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              • Big Cheddar1
                Recurring Poster
                • Feb 2019
                • 430

                #14
                Did Nelle know she was adopted? I too find it hard to believe that she wouldn't have tried to scam Nina as her "lost child" if she knew she was adopted and that Nina was looking for her child. Or even manipulated Nina by saying she was like a surrogate mom to her or she wished she was raised by someone like Nina.

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                • SAMLEXIS FAN
                  Aspiring soap scribe
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 28587

                  #15
                  Originally posted by Big Cheddar1 View Post
                  Did Nelle know she was adopted? I too find it hard to believe that she wouldn't have tried to scam Nina as her "lost child" if she knew she was adopted and that Nina was looking for her child. Or even manipulated Nina by saying she was like a surrogate mom to her or she wished she was raised by someone like Nina.
                  Nelle didn't know she was adopted.

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