I absolutely HATE when characters refer to Bobbie having been a "prostitute."

[rkm137]

She was a sex trafficked CHILD. I know it was presented as prostitution in the 70's. But Bobbie was engaging in sex for pay while a young teen. That isn't prostitution. It's trafficking and abuse of a minor child.

[Skbond]

True but what was sad is that the people that did it was her brother and Aunt

[rkm137]

Well, it was more Ruby. She ran the brothel. Luke was barely 18 himself when Ruby put Bobbie "to work." And he had been raised in that house too. Roby was presented as the ex-Madam with a heart of gold and I loved her when I watched in the 80s and 90s. But as an adult and and adult understanding of what a 14 year old girl really is, it's very hard to stomach.

[eileenregina]

Yes that is how I feel. I look back today at the show in the 80s and realize I would never agree with the LnL great love story or nice old Aunt Ruby stuff nowadays.

[cocophilly]

It is hard to revisit 70s-80s GH with 21st century eyes . There was so much that used to be acceptable that is now appalling

[maggiebh]

IDK, Ruby selling Bobby never seemed right to me back then.

[rkm137]

Irrespective of how it was intended in the 70s, we know what it was. I'm not addressing this to further convict Ruby or Luke of anything. I'm discussing people talking about it NOW.

My point is NINA referring to it TODAY as prostitution when she should know that it was sex trafficking and Bobbie was a child (which if she knows enough of the story to know about the "prostitution" she has to know Bobbie was a teen. unless she truly bad at arithmetic.) I hate that the show does this and doesn't have the decency to have someone ANYONE state out loud that a child isn't and cannot be a prostitute.

[JackieChan]

Exactly. What happened to her was sex trafficking! Nina is straight garbage for what she said.

[eileenregina]

Well, I never loved Bobbie and it had nothing to do with her past. She treated Laura about the same way Nina treated her in the Savoy. She was always publicly blasting Laura about the David Hamilton affair and what a spoiled princess she was. She even brought her brother Luke to town to get Laura in trouble by setting her up to violate her parole. I know over the years Laura and Bobbie became friendly but she was a vicious little snake herself at one time.

[Chris]

Cosign all that eileenregina says. Bobbie isn't some misunderstood heroine. She was utterly awful back in the day, which somewhat explains Carly. No, she didn't deserve to be trafficked but that doesn't excuse her either. I have never felt particularly sympathetic towards her, except for that one time when she was married to DL Brock.

[december rose]

So if Bobbie being trafficked doesn't excuse her later actions then Nina being in a coma for 20 years and her mother giving away her children doesn't excuse Nina's later actions either

[Big Cheddar1]

I wasn't watching GH back in th 80s, but was it established back then that Bobbie was under 18 when she was working at the brothel? I ask because soaps have a tendency to de-age their adult actors, so maybe Bobbie wasn't actually that young when the storyline happened. I pray this is the case because I'd like to believe GH didn't romanticize underage prostitution in any decade

[regalbeagle]

Her time as a prostitute was in Jacksonville before Bobbie showed up on GH as a student nurse. She was a very young adult then so she'd almost certainly have been underage when Ruby trafficked her.

[rkm137]

It was reinforced that she was underage in the 90s when Carly was introduced. Bobbie had Carly while she was "working" for Ruby at the age of 16.

[OLTL'69]

Yes I get your question. They did that with Carly when Bobbie said something about Carly being a teen when she came to town. When Bobbie came though it was that she had worked for her aunt while a teen . We did not see it but she was pretty young still

[DocBroInLaw]

Yeah but that’s what she did. And from what I remember she even admitted it was voluntary! OLTL stole the idea.

[CassadineSon]

I watched back then. Bobbie totally wanted to be in that line of work. She saw the money and the clothes. Ruby allowed it. Luke was never for it. But you can’t look at a 40+ yr old story through today’s lens.

[ScrubsFan#1]

It doesn't matter what year it was - she was a CHILD who COULDN'T consent.

[rkm137]

CassadineSon I'm confused as to what you are referring to. Bobbie's time as a prostitute was Florida prior to moving to PC. I was too young to recall if she engaged in any prostitution in PC (by then 20 years old), but I could swear she came to town as a nursing student and the facts about her past were introduced after she was established on canvas.

At any rate, I'm not judging that story itself - though I disagree that you can't, I'm not. I am saying that, whatever your felt about it at the time and however it was intended, when viewed now, it was child trafficking. So if a person comments on it NOW I would expect it to be treated as such.

[OLTLBoomer]

What Nina said was the truth (from the 70s point of view) and in doing was mean and shows NIna for her true self.
Nina does not like for anyone to bring up her past crimes (Ava, Avery, Stalking Silas, raping Slias, working to get Willow fire from her teaching position in the public schools). Bobbie started out trying to get Nina to see reason - drop the petition, cool down let everyone settle down and then start over and Nina went for the jugular (just as Sonny advised her). Bobbie is Wylie's great grandmother - just like Monica. Nina should think about P.O.ing another family member of her "peer" group as she did Harmony (before anyone jumps on me about Harmony and who she was, Nina did not know all that the audience knows - and Nina actuall had the audacity to berate Willow in front of her 'mother'.)

Just another scene of Nina showing her true self.

[OLTLBoomer]

@ribbonetter - that said, Bobbie showed respect when she first approached her - she did not call her names. It was a last ditch effort. Bobbie should not have to hide her feelings, as that would come acorss as hypocritical. Going low ans insulting Bobbie was all NIna.

[texastrilogy12]

Bobbie had a attitude from the start. She showed no respect and certainly her purpose was to cause a scene and try to get some payback for her daughter. You can't start throwing insults and name call when you have done plenty of dirt yourself.

[heddalee]

Bobbie was nasty and out-of-line with Nina - and not nearly nasty enough. If I were Bobbie, I would've told Nina that it's a shame Madeleine didn't finish what she started.

[JackieChan]

I wasn't watching GH back in th 80s, but was it established back then that Bobbie was under 18 when she was working at the brothel? I ask because soaps have a tendency to de-age their adult actors, so maybe Bobbie wasn't actually that young when the storyline happened. I pray this is the case because I'd like to believe GH didn't romanticize underage prostitution in any decade

She was 15 or 16 because that is how she got pregnant with Carly and had to give her up for adoption.

[SAMLEXIS FAN]

I'm glad Nina threw that in Bobbie's face. Bobbie needs to mind her own business. Her daughter started the war with Nina.

[Maxiegirl]

Wanda I agree with you.

I. Don’t. Care. about

Bobbie
Carly
Nina
Sonny

Those scenes could have been cut.

Same with the nauseating Michael, Willow and Wiley ones!

I would have rather have seen more of

Cam
Elizabeth
Finn
Gregory
Violet

Or

Curtis
Molly
TJ

Or

Jordan
Portia
Taggart

[BettieCat]

Maxiegirl I'm with you.

[Francophile]

Maxiegirl 100% agree with you! Co-sign.

[rkm137]

Yeah but that’s what she did. And from what I remember she even admitted it was voluntary! OLTL stole the idea.

The whole reason a minor can't give legal consent is because they are not emotionally ready to make such decisions. From Bobbie's prospective as a child who grew up from the age of 10 in a brothel, she may have seen it as something she "chose to do" to help her family because they needed the money. But at that point, not only was she still a child but she lived in an environment that would produce a very warped perspective on sex and sex work.

So Bobbie said it was "voluntary" that only means that she wasn't threatened or expressly coerced. It does not mean that she was not abused and pressured by the very nature of her environment.

[DocBroInLaw]

She never did it when she was 10. This happened when she was 18.

[rkm137]

DocBroInLaw I never said Bobbie was "working" at 10. I said she lived in the brothel. Bobbie lived with Ruby from the time shortly after her parents died. Even before the rewrites of the Spencers in the last decade, it was always the fact that Bobbie and Luke were raised by Ruby after they were orphaned. That means she lived in the brothel as a child.

Even in 1977, Bobbie was only 20. When, over the age of consent, was she supposed to have been a "prostitute" even then?

In any case, that is the story told as it is now and should be addressed.

[CarnyQueen]

Bobbie was about 15 when she started working as a prostitute. The story was that Ruby objected, but Bobbie insisted and told Ruby that she would go out and get a pimp, so Ruby reluctantly let Bobbie work for her.

No matter how you slice it, Bobbie was a trafficked child and Nina, with all her talk of being an "empowered woman," was absolutely foul for trying to use that as an insult to Bobbie. I'm not a fan of assaulting people, but Nina did deserve that drink in her face.

And I think Bobbie should have a few words with Scotty and tell him that he and his big mouth are no longer her friends.

[DayRose]

I remember Bobbie's past the way you do. Scotty is no friend of Bobbie's.

[LFBHasGreatHair]

What is even more foul is that all of this is over a child sex trafficker, Sonny. Michael and Carly are angry that they had to be inconvenienced, but not too inconvenienced, by being sad for a couple of months that the man who drugged and trafficked children was believed to be dead.

so since Bobbie is supportive of that I’m good with her being called out for her past

[BettieCat]

People will come and tell you that Sonny never did a terrible thing ever in his life. All his murders were 'necessary' or because he wanted to kill the person, which makes it OK. His abuse of women is Ok because, um, dimples or something. I don't get it.

[believeinme246]

She was a sex trafficked CHILD. I know it was presented as prostitution in the 70's. But Bobbie was engaging in sex for pay while a young teen. That isn't prostitution. It's trafficking and abuse of a minor child.

It's equally loathsome to throw how a biological child turned out to a woman who was drugged and UNCONSCIOUS for the first twenty years of that child's life. To blame her for that child turned out, when she was victimized herself, is hideous.

Both women behaved horribly.

[Eve S Dropper]

I hate Nina (sorry, I know I preface every comment with this, I think I have Nina Derangement Syndrome, LOL), but Bobbie was out of line starting the confrontation and trying to take the moral high ground when she has none to stand on. Bobbie pulled plenty of underhanded stunts in her day, including one from Nina's playbook of pretending to have a physical disability to snag / hold onto a man. And throwing a drink in someone's face is just trashy. Every confrontation like this ends up adding to the Nina Is A Victim narrative, which makes me want to hurl.

[rkm137]

Eve S Dropper I hate Nina but I also didn't care that Nina swung back. Bobbie really should have stayed out of it. Granted using any of Bobbie's misdeeds, especially trying to breakup a relationship, from when she was 20-25 (i.e. 4 plus decades ago) is pretty much a swing and a miss in my book coming from a 50+ woman who is currently behaving that way. If falls almost as short against Carly who was 22 when she arrived in Salem and hasn't been the other woman since. In Carly's case, it's 25 years.

[Eve S Dropper]

rkm137 agree, the antics that Bobbie and Carly pulled were for the most part at significantly younger ages. Even if you allow for the arrested development while Nina was in the coma, she has had what, 8 years now to figure out how to be a grown up? I think one of the main reasons I hate her so much is her coy little ah shucks who me, looking demurely out of the top of her eyes, like a freaking ingenue. Give it up Nina, you are not a blushing sweet innocent experiencing your first crush!

[c83gilles]

Nina fought back. Again. Maybe she could
of had a little more decency but Bobbie got up in Nina’s face first.

[AnotherSonnyKid]

Honestly they both need to grow up. Bobbie should mind her p's and q's, the court is handling it not her and Nina should learn how to keep her mouth shut and walk away. Then again I guess there would be no drama lol and it is a soap and all.