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Well, thats the actions of a good parent....your son wrote you off, so now you want to support your sons enemy, the very enemy that caused him to write you off in the first place? I think Sonny has lost his mind. What a piece of garbage he has become since his return.
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The writers want to force drama and have Sonny side with Nina fine, but don't spend months leading up to this having Sonny constantly reassure Michael that he's not going to speak up for Nina and will show his son support during the trial even if he doesn't agree with it. Sonny must have some undiagnosed brain trauma/damage from losing his memory cause the man has lost his marbles since coming back from NF.-
Agreed. Sonny seriously needs to get his stuff together. I'm not liking how the new writers are portraying Sonny as being a selfish, ignorant jackass. It is truly absurd. He is acting out of his mind right now. -
I am hoping that Sonny has an undiagnosed brain trauma because his actions right now are unforgivable. I would not be surprised if Michael tells Sonny "My father is dead. He died a year ago after falling off a bridge that collapsed. I have no idea who you are, but you're not him."
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Can we just go ahead and call this Sonny Mike 2.0 now? Let's do what MB and the writers are trying so hard to set up and just make this guy a whole new character now. I mean I never liked Sonny but this guy is confusing - he's kinda like Sonny except he's so bizarre- are the writers confused?
I haven't seen today's episode I'm glad that Carly said (from the live thread) fighting with Sonny only keeps her tied to him. Please writers let Carly be free from SonnyMike 2.0 forever.Comment
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I think he is the same old Sonny. He pays lip service to putting his family first but that's only true when it's convenient and doesn't conflict with something he wants. Was he putting Carly first all those times he cheated on her? Michael when he killed AJ? Morgan when he had sex in the crypt with Ava? Kristina when he sold the bar to Phyllis instead of his daughter? Dante when he makes him choose between being a good cop or his son? Joss when he had Jax deported to Australia? The only person that always comes first with Sonny is Sonny. And when anyone calls him on it, he plays the victim and turns his back until they come crawling back to him. Too bad we all know that Carly and Michael cutting Sonny out of their life forever really means they'll be back in the fold in 6-12 months. -
Codsg21 all that is completely true. However I feel like the writers want me to think he's changed for the better - but if that were true he would never have said the things he did to Carly, Michael etc. So it's like they have Sonny in this limbo of 'look it's old Sonny' but also want him to have the softer nicer side Sonny. And that is just not what I'm seeing on my screen - this new and improved Sonny is the same or worse than the old one.
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I think Sonny should just sit this court hearing out. Sonny will be Michael's dad again as it seems Carly seemed a bit on the fence today even if her words said otherwise.Comment
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I dislike him… well lies I disliked him in the past … now I am starting to hate him with a passion.
Nina or Carly would be better if without him.
His Carly divorced me
Michael needs to beg me
I am not taking a side.
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He is such a phony. I can't stand this version of Sonny. The only good thing, he finally shaved his messy face.Comment
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This storyline feels so incredibly forced. Michael's anger feels way over-the-top to me in these circumstances, and so does Sonny's reaction to it.Comment
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I had no issue w/what Sonny said. Michael has disowned him and actively wants to bring him down! Why shouldn't Sonny speak his truth? Carly and Michael never bothered to hear him . . . to truly listen to him. I'm glad he's going to get a chance to tell everyone how he feels about the situation.Comment
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Maxum - I don't disagree that Nina was wrong, but I disagree w/the idea that Carly was NOT already in love w/Jason. IMO, Jason friend zoned her a long time ago. She accepted it and moved on w/Sonny. She loved Sonny, but her true love was Jason. With Sonny dead and Jason seemingly willing to be in a "real" marriage w/her, Carly's dreams had come true.
And I disagree that Sonny's decision caused any trauma. Michael is being a huge baby. At the end of the day, Sonny chose his family. His family ditched him b/c he did not think what they wanted him to think or do the things they wanted him to do (murder someone). Michael's in a hissy b/c of it but that's b/c he's an immature child w/no understanding of the complexities of life. He's pathetic. -
lala214 it may be your opinion, which you're entitled to, that Carly has been in love with Jason all these years but that doesn't make it so. Carly and Sonny had sex, Jason left, and when he came back she was in love with Sonny. There was no waffling about who she wanted in 2000 when Jason came back. She wanted Sonny. Even when she wasn't with Sonny she married other men. She never pursued Jason, and we all know that if Carly had wanted Jason him friend zoning her would not have stopped her from going after him. They became platonic best friends and it was through their shared grief and loss of Sonny that their feelings resurfaced. You can be friends with someone you were once in love with and that's what happened with Carly and Jason. Those feelings would not have come back for either of them if Sonny hadn't "died".
How Sonny feels about the situation is irrelevant. He can not feel like a victim until the cows come home but that doesn't mean that the people hurt by Nina's actions can't have their own feelings about it. Willow and Michael are angry that Nina, while being offered the opportunity to get to know Wiley, chose to keep her knowledge of Sonny a lie which was actively hurting Wiley. If by no other way than hurting his father. Nina herself made their case today. She did what she did without thinking about the people she would hurt. She made an impulsive choice that led to devastation. That is not a stable influence for a child and parents have a right and obligation to protect their children, which is what Michael and Willow are trying to do.
Everyone else and all their bad deeds are also irrelevant. They're not petitioning for the right to see Wiley. If Carly were banned from seeing Wiley and petitioned the courts to see him then her misdeeds would be relevant. That's not what's happening though. So her bad behavior or Michael's or Sonny's has no bearing on anything. Nina isn't entitled to Wiley just because Michael allows others in his life. -
Bellajewels - Carly couldn’t waffle because Jason friend zoned her. The choice was made by him. Carly had no choice in the matter. I disagree that she could have gotten him back if she tried. Once she and Sonny slept together, Jason was done with her (until recently) and wanted no romantic relationship with her (until recently).
Carly and Michael can feel however they choose to feel about Nina. I don’t think they have treated SONNY since learning this info. I think they should have been more understanding of SONNY, not Nina.
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So this is why they had Dante carry that water from Michael to Sonny. To give Sonny motivation to speak on Nina's behalf at the hearing.
Even though Michael hasn't taken any action against Sonny, Sonny is going to try to force him to allow his grandchild to spend time with a person that he doesn't trust.
This isn't Sonny anymore, this is Sorry. They need to change the characters name.Comment
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i cannot wait to hear Sonny tell His "side" of the story....and I hope Scotty gets his wish and puts him on the stand!
Let's see - Sonny's story as he sees it:
~ I was happy in NF
~ My family was not looking for me
~ I did not want to know who I was - even though I had a wedding ring (I pawned it to save Lenny and Phyllis)
~ I helped the people who helped me
~ Nina is my friend
~ I was hit on the head during a fire and then I knew who I was
~ I wanted to go home and I did (thanks to Jasper Jax)
~ I came home to find my wife and my best friend got married - This was hard for me to believe.
~ I did not want to talk about NF and I asked Nina to stay away
~ My best friend was killed
~ Carly kept asking questions that I did not / could not want to answer
~ My son Michael was angry at Nina and blamed her for my time missing and had her sued in court for Identity theft
~ I testified in court that I was no one's victim and the case against Nina was dropped
~ Michael and Carly kept asking questions - I am thinking she wants a divorce
~ i asked my wife to meet me for a romantic meeting and she didn't. Nina came and so I had sex with her. Carly found us in bed
~ Carly wants a divorce
~ Michael does not respect me - he will not do as i tell him to do.
~ My son is trying to take me down - I am on Nina's side.
Meanwhile, back in town
- Nina showed up wherever Sonny was and constantly talked about NF.
- Nina showed up wherever Sonny was and talked NF and how she did not mean to do ____________.
- Nina does not apologize to the family for keeping Sonny's wherebouts a secret for 6 months, as Carly was mean to me - she yelled at me.
- Nina - I am a victim - to anyone who will listen
~ Nina to whoever will listen to hear - please talk to Willow to see if she will let me visit my grandson (not MIchael). MIchael is turning her head.
- NIna to whever "Willow is mean to me, I had her number when she was Charlotte's teacher, I should have settled hits back then." (to Harmony of all people)
- Nina after SoNa sex - I didn't mean for that to happen
- Nina to anyone who will listen, especially Sonny, i dont want you to choose sides in the visitation (lowers eyes and bats eyelids).
- Sonny to Nina today at the bar - Michael doesn't want me around, I am supporting you in the petition. NIna smiles.
Coke and popcorn ready......
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YAY!!! I'm glad Sonny decided to testify on Nina's behalf. Michael, Willow & Carly's heads are going to explode....I'm totally looking forward to it.Comment
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Well, it depends. Sonny's testimony could help Nina. But his taking the stand opens him up to cross-examination. And if Diane does her job and represents her clients with the appropriate zeal, that could get really ugly in a way Sonny won't like. -
CarnyQueen I have a feeling Sonny will turn the tables on Diane so it's all good. -
With what? Anything Sonny brings up cannot hurt M&W's case. If it's about Nelle, Diane can bring up the fact that until his amenisa and funtimes with Bina he was absolutely against Nelle being anywhere near Michael and Wiley. She can also bring up Sonny's own history with Nelle - does Nina know about that? Wold she care her daughter drugged and implied a sexual contact with a man who had no memory of it (oh like daughter like mother I guess)? Who then blackmailed him about it for months?
What about Sonny's own history with Michael?
Because, see, Sonny and his history could be far more damaging to Nina than if he kept his own mouth shut and stayed out of it.Last edited by BlindLiberty; May 19, 2022, 06:05 PM.
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Sonny is not very smart. I hate Sonny and Nina together. The tension between Michael and Sonny is one of the interesting parts of the story though.Comment
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Father of the year! ? Anyone else think that having an "alleged" mob kingpin be your character witness is a mistake?Comment
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I wanted to say something about this. I guess all Sonny could say that MIGHT help Nina was that she never kept him hostage. He was always free to go. She told him to seek out who he was (of course that was a WTF when she could have told him)
BUT Sonny is no child development expert to say having Nina in the life would be good for Wiley (and this is SUPPOSE to be all about WIley NOT Sonny NOT nina NOT Michael and Willow
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Sonny proves once again that he’s the worst father in the world. I hope Nina is stupid enough to put him on the stand. Michael will hate him even more and it will tank her case. Honestly, I don’t why Sonny (or Scott) thinks his testimony will be any kind of help. How does Nina bringing attention to her mobster boyfriend help her at all?Comment
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This is so egregiously stupid. Sonny as a character witness? ? Totes.
The one thing about this that I can seen being beneficial is that it might final snap the thread with Carly. She can't rationalize this one away as not being meant to hurt Michael the way she did with shooting AJ (which at the time she was horrified by but more afraid of the fallout for Michael if he learned his father was murdered by his other father). This time it would be Sonny purposely taking direct aim at Michael and his family and that is something Carly doesn't forgive easily.Comment
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Thanks, I never would have figured that out. Now, I'm smarter about at least one more thing, today. And, you used it in context, in a sentence, as your example.
That's way more than what Violet got the other day from her Grandpa, when she wondered about her new word 'youth' when she asked, 'What's that?'.
I'm probably never gonna say/write 'totes'.Last edited by franron; May 25, 2022, 03:48 PM.
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