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OMG what bull. She has always loved him, didn’t she admit that, and Sonny’s death finally gave her the chance to be with him. Nothing is ever Carly’s fault, she’s such a saint. Also, she will never get over seeing them in bed? LOL. How many women/men have Sonny and Carly been with. She slept with Sonny while married to Jax, just one example, and Sonny has slept with others also. Ever the martyr when she’s hurt. Maybe she should have taken her husband to a therapist when he got back but she was busy getting over the Jason marriage.
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This show is stuck so far up this character's butt that it's ridiculous!
Why do they act like we haven't sees what we've seen all these years?!?! Carly has ALWAYS been in love w/Jason. Jason put her in the friend zone. That's been the ONLY reason she hasn't been w/Jason. Why they are trying to paint her as a saint and Sonny as the devil is beyond me? As you said, if she truly loved Sonny, she would have opted for some marriage counseling instead of shutting down and basically running away! -
It is true. If Sonny was alive, Carly and Jason would have never fallen back in love with each other, got married, or pursued any type of romantic relationship. Yes, Carly has loved Jason for years but she has put that romantic side of that love to the side and so did Jason.Comment
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I am not disagreeing with you, but in this instance I think she meant nothing would ever have happened between them if they did not think Sonny was dead.Comment
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I agree, perky7kc ! Carly is a huge hypocrite! It seems her feelings for Jason are fine and should be tolerated and understood but Sonny’s feelings can’t! Ok! And Sonny should accept Carly not acting on her feelings and choosing her but he can’t do the same!?!? Whatever!! -
Except Sonny didn't do the same, he acted on it the very second he could -
raheast. YES! IF Sonny had slept with Nina when he did not know who he was that would be one thing and of course Carly would have had a heck of time getting over it. BUT He knew he was married okay estranged
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I do agree that Carly was very much NOT understanding that he had feelings. She hates Nina so he MUST hate her too.
BUT he is the one who cheated
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I just don't agree. I feel Carly has never stopped being in love with Jason.Comment
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she can love him, but she never acted SEXUALLY on that love...big difference -
She didn’t act on those feeling and Sonny was never cheated in his marriage because of any lingering feelings for Jason. That’s not the case for him, he lied, betrayed and cheated on Carly. In fact this behavior is nothing new, Sonny has cheated plenty of times for every reason under the SUN and it’s never his fault. Like another poster mentioned it’s a shame at how people are twisting themselves into pretzels to make this Carlys fault. As if Sonny hasn’t ever thought with D**k in the past.
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I agree with what Carly said today because that is what played out on our screens.
Carly was mourning Sonny - mourning him! She cried, had conversations with his spirit, etc. for months - months.
It was only when they realized the week before the wedding that they were getting married, they had been a couple before, and should they cross that line (she did not want the deep friendship to change) that Carly started thinking and acting like a bride. Jason came around slower, but he was in for the long haul on the wedding day.
What I see is Carly is possessive of Jason - and he allowed it to be that way. Call it co-dependent, call it enabling. Any woman involved with Jason knew that Sonny and Carly, and MIchael (because of the defacto foster relationship when he was a baby) always came first. Always. Carly was jealous of any woman with Jason. She tolerated Sam as Jason did truly seem to care for Sam, with the said limitations.
Carly is not my favorite character in the show. But this time I back Carly - for once in her life, she has told the truth to Sonny, played by his rules, held her words, and Sonny could not be honest with her because he has not been honest with himself since his return.Comment
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You’re right Sonny has not been honest with himself and he should have gone to someone because he did have amnesia and Carly should have understood this. Sonny needed time to heal and his head must be a jumble. I am not a Sonny fan but he did sustain a head injury and Carly should have understood that and helped him deal. -
perky7kc - I agree with you up to Carly understanding. Carly has done everything she could have done. She wanted to talk, he pulled back; he wanted to talk, she was willing to listen and he got angry because he was flustered. She asked him if he was alright and he bit her head off. At some point, Sonny needs to take responsibility for his own actions. He knew his mind/ feelings/ Thoughts were jumbled post NF. Then he should have sought help.
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Carly and Jason did not even sleep together after admitting there were feelings developing. Carly and Jason weren’t coming on to either at every opportunity. Sonny gets secondhand information from Kristina then jumps into bed with Nina.Comment
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Nothing she said was untrue. Yes she's loved Jason through all of their relationship but she never allowed it to be a romantic kind of love until Sonny was declared dead. Ang the fact that Sonny jumped into bed with nina so quickly tells me that the idea that he never would have acted on his feelings is wrong. He acted on them very easilyShelly, Moderator
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How sad it is that we give up on people who are just like us.- Mr. Rogers.Comment
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The dialogue was clunky, but I get her point. She's always loved Jason. But she wouldn't have allowed herself to fall in love with Jason if Sonny had been alive.Comment
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Where is the lie? Carly and Jason only open that door long after they thought Sunny was dead. That’s the thing about Sonny the really gets on my nerves, while throwing Jason in his wife’s face, he’s conveniently overlooking the fact that had Nina been honest with him the moment she saw him, what happened with Carly and Jason would’ve never taken place.
Carl is not the one in the wrong here, her spineless husband is. And he is even more pathetic to wait till now to say all these things if these are the feelings he’s been harboring for so long.
This is the man who have always claimed that Jason is like a brother and his best friend, yet look at him, trashing a man who devoted Every essence of his life to cleaning up his mess. This is the true essence and core of Sonny, narcissistic, selfish, parasitic and vile to the bone.
If Carly did with Jason to him what has done and is doing with Nina, The amount of despicable things he would be saying to her, on top of what he’s saying to her now, would be next level. There’s nothing more disgusting than the perpetrator acting like he’s the victim
, but that’s just how Sonny operates.Comment
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I agree with almost everything you said, but even if Nina told Sonny from the start, he would most likely have poo poo'ed it, since the feelings didn't return until after he was hit on the head again (typical soap style) and he may have still felt that abandonment and fought back, as Sonny is so prone to do. Not guaranteed, but a possible scenario.
As for Sonny turning on Jason, by gosh, the man gave up a relationship that was developing with Britt to be the loyal mascot once again and marry Sonny's 'widow' to keep her alive, and yes he would have made it a real marriage at her request, but Jason's loyalty would have never faltered if he knew that Sonny was alive. Just look at how quickly he stepped away when Sonny returned. Sonny is an ungrateful dog who can only see the world through his eyes and not the eyes of others. -
believeinme246 We'll never know if Sonny would have poo poo'ed the notion of returning to his life if he had been told. At minimum, he likely would have investigated his past. And if he had returned to PC it might well have brought his memory back sooner. If he'd seen Carly, the woman he'd been dreaming of.
And, unless he snuck around and didn't talk to anyone, Jason and Carly would have at least known he was alive. So, regardless of how long it took for Sonny to remember, that would have prevented them from considering a romantic relationship.
As to your second point, Jason didn't agree to make their marriage real at Carly's request. He said he wanted that himself once he thought about being married to Carly for life. Carly said she was starting to fall again and she could end it and preserve the friendship and Jason said she wouldn't be falling alone. Carly was prepared to drop the who thing and he assured her it was mutual. But the point is (and what Carly *actually said*) Carly and Jason would have never gotten to that point or considered a romantic future together but for Nina hiding Sonny. -
Jason gave up more then that he gave up having a life and his family.
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I understand what Carly meant. She loved Jason but would never have allowed herself to fall in love if Sonny hadn't "died". Jason and Carly wouldn't have even gotten married if it wasn't for the mob.Comment
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Well, there was also the overly dramatic "I was FIVE MINUTES late, and he jumped in bed with Nina!" BS. She talked to Kristina, she talked to Drew, then she rushed over the hospital to check on Drew.
The more she talked to Drew today, the clearer it became to me that from the moment Sonny reappeared, she was doing what she felt she was expected to do---try and reclaim the marriage. If she had "allowed herself to fall in love with Jason"----it doesn't sound like she was in love with Sonny while trying to put them back together, does it?Comment
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And your point? Yes, it was an exaggeration, but once again Carly takes on the martyrdom of the wronged party in its full regalia. With matching tiara. -
My point is that it wasn't overly dramatic it was just a rhetorical device for emphasis that is common to most people when making a point. I use it all the time and literally NO ONE would accuse me of being prone to dramatic outbursts. And, for the record, Carly is the wronged party.
Carly asked for time to process. Sonny pressures her at every turn insisting they need to be together immediately.
She agreed to talk with Sonny. Then she finds out that Sonny isn't just wanting to talk, he's setting up an elaborate gesture which she tells him isn't what she wants or agreed to.
She takes some time by herself *before* she was even supposed to meet Sonny to decide if she can do what he's asking (and it was before since Kristina called just as she was leaving after setting up.
Carly has no idea that Kristin misrepresented their conversation and within a few minutes decides to meet Sonny before hearing Dante is in the hospital and she goes to GH assuming Sonny would head there too.
Sonny isn't there but Carly confirms Dante is okay, has two brief conversations, and then calls Sonny to say she's on her way.
She arrives, probably a little over an hour after her call with Kristina, likely 30-40 minutes late and finds that in that hour Sonny hopped into bed with not just another woman, the very woman who has caused the problems in their marriage.
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Wronged party? Yes.
The full on Martyr that she's embracing? You know---the one who "got played" and will never be able to get past seeing Sonny with Nina in bed....(like it's not at least the third time she's seen him in bed with another woman...)...not exactly. She wasn't even going to show up at the Haunted Star until Drew talked her into it.
Agree to disagree.
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Didn’t everyone and their dog celebrate Carly and Jason’s love at their wedding? Saying they had known all along the two loved each other? Michael did, right? I don’t pay enough attention to Carly, Jason, and Sonny, but it was very strange how many people were happy they were in love and had always been in love.
Also, Carly never told Sonny that she and Jason admitted their love for each other, so neither Carly nor Jason were honest with Sonny.Comment
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