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  • #16
    I would never encourage my friend to pursue any married man, but one who has married, divorced, remarried the same (and current wife) so many times I've lost count? I would be scheduling an intervention to steer her as far away as possible from such an obvious losing situation and a man drowning in red flags.

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    • #17
      Nina should quit stalking and being as clinging as wet toilet paper on Sonny's shoe. She is pathetic on her quest as an adulterous. Carly is not helping with her woe is me lamentation of plain silliness and hypocricy. Those three should just jump in bed as a threesome and get it over with.

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      • #18
        Nina needs a strait jacket and a lot of therapy. Not even being facetious - I think she's never really recovered from being put into a coma and having her baby stolen. She's in a perpetual adolescent schoolgirl state of mind, overly romanticizing and obsessing over any man she latches onto like a giddy, lovestruck teenager. She needs help, and right now...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tarheel715 View Post
          If I didn't hate Nina so much, I would actually feel sorry for her because the woman doesn't have a single friend who truly loves her.

          If she did, instead of encouraging her to continue obsessing over a married man who truly loves her wife and was Nina's victim when she knowingly took advantage of his amnesia. They would be advising her to seek professional help from a mental health specialist who can help her address her issues. Lying to someone for MONTHS about their identity, purposely keeping their family and friends from finding out they're alive, convincing herself that she and Sonny were sincerely in love and that love was pure and special, etc... these are not the actions of a person with a mentally stable mind.

          But with the exception of Phyllis (after months of enabling), no one who claims to care about Nina: Liesel, Ava, Britt, Curtis, Maxie, etc...have thoroughly explained to Nina not only how f'd up what she did to Sonny and his family was in the first place, but how even more disturbing and disgusting it is that she's continuing to act like a vulture, waiting for a chance to swoop in and pick up the carcass of Sonny and Carly's broken marriage that she broke.

          And of course because Nina doesn't have an ounce of sincerity or self respect, she is desperate to take any opportunity to further insert herself in Sonny's life under the guise of being his friend when she is not his friend, never was, and never could be.
          Nina surrounds herself with people who support her agenda period. It makes me sick the day all these witches are telling her to go after him. She keeps saying he loves his wife then Liesel says he loves you too. The difference byotch is he has children little children. So Nina says she doesn’t want to be the one that breaks up a marriage gets SLEEPS at his HOME where he lives with Carly. No chance of anything going wrong there.
          Writers get it over with for the love of god. There will be a misunderstanding and Carly will think Sina were together and leave him then he will sleep with Nina and we begin this roller coaster. About a year in Carson will get back together so here we go again.
          I just hope Carly gets Drew yumm

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          • #20
            I really in general con't get the pushing someone to go after a married woman. Even if there is no respect for marriage and family you are pushing your "friend" intodrama and pain and into the arms a person who is willing to break their commitments

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tarheel715 View Post
              If I didn't hate Nina so much, I would actually feel sorry for her because the woman doesn't have a single friend who truly loves her.

              If she did, instead of encouraging her to continue obsessing over a married man who truly loves her wife and was Nina's victim when she knowingly took advantage of his amnesia. They would be advising her to seek professional help from a mental health specialist who can help her address her issues. Lying to someone for MONTHS about their identity, purposely keeping their family and friends from finding out they're alive, convincing herself that she and Sonny were sincerely in love and that love was pure and special, etc... these are not the actions of a person with a mentally stable mind.

              But with the exception of Phyllis (after months of enabling), no one who claims to care about Nina: Liesel, Ava, Britt, Curtis, Maxie, etc...have thoroughly explained to Nina not only how f'd up what she did to Sonny and his family was in the first place, but how even more disturbing and disgusting it is that she's continuing to act like a vulture, waiting for a chance to swoop in and pick up the carcass of Sonny and Carly's broken marriage that she broke.

              And of course because Nina doesn't have an ounce of sincerity or self respect, she is desperate to take any opportunity to further insert herself in Sonny's life under the guise of being his friend when she is not his friend, never was, and never could be.
              Agree 100% Nina needs a friend that will tell her how unhealthy it is for her being around Sonny at all at the very least. Atcbest she needs professional help. I feel like I'm watching Crazy Ex Girlfriend, except without the great laughs and the brilliant songs.

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              • #22
                I no longer care who ends up together. I have hated this story since Sonny fell in the river. It is insulting.
                Can we please get some intelligent writers????

                And yes of course, Nina should be given some tough love by her family and "friends". Instead they are blowing smoke up her hiney to pretend to agree with her. They aren't doing what is good for her. They are keeping her in a fantasy world and trying to destroy a marriage and family in the meantime.

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                • #23
                  I haven't watched the scene between Nina and Liesl yet, but I can't say that I'm surprised that Liesl is giving Nina terrible advice. I mean, look at her track record.

                  Not only is Liesl a former member of the Legion of Doom, she has shown repeated bad judgment in romances. She chased after Faison for years, even though he was obsessed with another woman -- to the point where he wanted Liesl to wear an Anna mask during sex. Liesl abased herself again and again for this man. And she kept on chasing him even though she realized he was so dangerous that she gave their baby son to her sister to raise. Liesl also pushed her own daughter to go to all sorts of criminal lengths to try to snare Patrick -- a man who clearly wasn't that into her. So Liesl giving Nina stupid advice that ignores the needs of Sonny's children? That's no surprise.

                  And the same thing with Britt. She has a track record of taking really stupid actions to try to get a man who doesn't want her. Patrick is exhibit A. Nikolas is exhibit B.

                  As for Nina and other friends: Maybe she doesn't have any good friends because she isn't a good friend. With the exception of maybe Curtis, I haven't really seen Nina be a good friend to anyone unless she wants something from them. Sasha's baby died -- and Nina went to the hospital, but spent all her time stalking Sonny. Nina turned on Maxie in a spectacular fashion when Maxie tried to get Lulu some time with Charlotte. Nina actually fired Maxie -- the person who taught her how to run Crimson -- and made her grovel to get her job back.

                  And that is one of the things that has always annoyed me about the enabling of Nina: Maxie has never been allowed to tell Nina off, not only for firing her and for Nina's blatant hypocrisy ("Waaah, waah, I lost my baby, but I will stop another woman from seeing her child because I want that kid for myself!") -- but for her horrible treatment of Maxie's best friend and that best friend's daughter. Nina did everything she could to keep Lulu from Charlotte, and her and Valentin's attempts to block Lulu made it much harder for Charlotte to adjust to the situation.

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                  • Eve S Dropper
                    Eve S Dropper commented
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                    Plus Maxie didn't blast Nina for failing to alert the world that Peter was alive and well and vowing to get Louise back and threatening James. Nina has always treated Maxie like crap and I cannot understand why one earth Maxie takes it and comes back for more.

                • #24
                  I agree. No one really gets Nina's azz together the way they should.

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                  • #25
                    Originally posted by believeinme246 View Post

                    I really agree with most. Unlike most here, I love Nina even if I think her actions were very wrong. However, someone who loved her would not only make suggestions for course correction, but they'd be vehemently opposed to her getting involved with a mob boss and abusive man who has almost killed his wife, son, daughter. She would be next to be called a slut, to have barware thrown, to hear if you did this, I will kill you. They'd be telling her to run.

                    At minimum, they'd be encouraging her to get into therapy to work out why she is so self-destructive. I want this for Nina.
                    Yes, I agree. Carly deserves whatever she gets, and I'm enjoying this storyline. But in real life, I would definitely tell my friend to run from this monster, and leave him to his equally-monstrous wife.

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                    • #26
                      Liesl and Britt don't really know anything about what Sonny is like, so maybe they are seeing him through rose-colored glasses. Liesl has stumbled into a good relationship with Scott, but both women have repeatedly either abased themselves or turned to ridiculous criminal plots to try to get with men who weren't very interested in them.

                      Ava does know what Sonny is like, but perhaps she values stirring the pot over Nina's well-being. She certainly doesn't seem to value Avery's well-being any more, since she doesn't seem to think that stability is important in her daughter's life and hasn't expressed any anger toward Nina for prolonging Avery's grief over her father.

                      Ava also has a history of really bad relationship decisions and selfish moves. Remember when Silas told her that she had to keep her mitts off their daughter's boyfriend? Ava couldn't do it, couldn't put her daughter ahead of her own needs. Couldn't put common sense ahead of her own needs, since obviously a triangle with mom-daughtger-volatile Morgan was not going to end in happiness for anyone.

                      Maxie told Nina that her actions weren't all that bad, but since Nina's return from Nixon Falls I don't think she has encouraged Nina or ever told her to go after Sonny. Other supporters like Curtis and Sasha haven't encouraged her to go after Sonny (and she hasn't told them the whole truth about her time in NF).

                      Phyllis (who has made a lot of really appalling decisions when it comes to Sonny) seems to be giving Nina mixed signals: She brought Mike's watch to Nina instead of returning it to its owner, but she told Nina she should stay away from Sonny.

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