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Why does everyone assume Carly was wrong (Jason/jail)

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  • cruella369
    Contract Poster
    • Jul 2005
    • 3084
    #1

    Why does everyone assume Carly was wrong (Jason/jail)

    To get Jason out of jail. It was made pretty clear that he was going to get beat up/killed in jail. Jason pretty much said it was going to happen and Cyrus confirmed it. Then Cyrus was working to get him taken out in the hospital. Yes, Britt opened her mouth to the wrong person - which caused complications. But Jason and Britt got away (and lord knows this isn't the first time Jason has gotten wounded). Now we have Peter and Cyrus worried about taking jason out - but they cannot find him. It seems to me like Carly made the right decision.

    I really wish that they would stop writing carly's schemes as "wrong" and writing her as in need of Jason's help. SHe handled the Jason situation, she blew up Cyrus' ship (and now DA Scorpio is looking into the contents) and she hadnled the meeting. Yes, Jason is on the run, but that is a time honored GH tradition. (Luke/Laura, Sonny/Brenda, Jason/Sam).
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  • dancingqueen12
    Senior Board Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1614
    #2
    Jason is written to be above the law - long before Cyrus.
    i feel I am immune to him escaping custody. It doesn’t affect me either way really. (Does this make sense?). I don’t know if it’s right/wrong any longer. Cyrus is another stepping stone in a long path of going against the law.

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    • cruella369
      #2.1
      cruella369 commented
      May 12, 2021, 10:46 AM
      Editing a comment
      I get it. They aren't really the bad guys (in reality they are the "least bad guys, which in GH makes them the good guys). I have watched 20 years of people telling Carly she is a mess and her plans are stupid and Sonny and Jason have to save her. I have also watched Carly come up with better plans than Sonny (he's the one who's plans are always a mess - marrying Claudia, the "truce' with Cyrus).

      I would actually like this to be a turning point where Carly owns her plans and schemes and is a partner or even a boss to Jason. You know, Faith Roscoe, without all of the immorality. :-)
    • Jessi
      #2.2
      Jessi commented
      May 12, 2021, 12:15 PM
      Editing a comment
      cruella369,
      I am going to disagree a bit. Jason and Carly as partners might be ok but I don’t want Carly as boss. I enjoy Carly but she runs so much already, especially in Jason’s life. I would prefer he step away if that happens.
  • parker joe
    I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
    • Feb 2005
    • 8654
    #3
    Carly's impulsive and reckless.

    Jason wouldn't have needed to escape in the first place if Carly hadn't kidnapped Florence, thus angering Cyrus. Jason would be more than capable of defending himself on the outside. Two wrongs don't make Carly right.

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    • parker joe
      #3.4
      parker joe commented
      May 12, 2021, 01:49 PM
      Editing a comment
      I never said Cyrus is a victim of anyone. I'm simply not patting Carly on the back for violating mob protocols, leaving Jason behind the 8 ball, and then miraculously pulling his bacon out of the flames.
    • cruella369
      #3.5
      cruella369 commented
      May 13, 2021, 09:54 AM
      Editing a comment
      But Cyrus has already violated mob protocols. He came onto the scene shooting at Sonny and his family (Mike, Michael, Joss, Carly) numerous times, he kidnapped TJ, he kidnapped Cam and Trina and he had Julien blow up a bar full of people. Kidnapping Florence (and no one seems to be mad at Carly for it - not Martin or Florence....maybe not even Cyrus) kept Cyrus in check. It allowed Laura and Leslie to block the drug from GH, it stopped all violence and kept Cyrus pre-occupied.
    • parker joe
      #3.6
      parker joe commented
      May 13, 2021, 11:24 AM
      Editing a comment
      cruella369 Cyrus IS mad about it---he's not mad at Carly because he's been led to believe Jason did it. Martin may no longer be mad, but he only accepted it because he was allowed to see her and knew she wasn't being mistreated.

      If Sonny had retaliated by kidnapping Flo, it would've violated "the code" and made him look weak. Or maybe a better word is untrustworthy---to the other Families. The reason the Families didn't side with Cyrus is because they don't trust him.

      As for crediting Carly re: stopping the drug approval, that's as much to Jackie's credit and initiative in finding and getting the interview.
  • Lil Fey
    Board Regular
    • Oct 2019
    • 637
    #4
    I think Carly was wrong for having Shawn stab him AND breaking him out at the hospital. How would anyone in their right mind would think it is ok to break out of jail because they are innocent of the crime they are in jail for?

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    • McShirls
      #4.1
      McShirls commented
      May 12, 2021, 12:29 PM
      Editing a comment
      That wasn't the reason. It was to prevent him from being murdered in jail. And hopefully to finally put an end to Peter and Cyrus.
    • Lil Fey
      #4.2
      Lil Fey commented
      May 12, 2021, 02:30 PM
      Editing a comment
      I forgot about the scene where Carly saw his hurt hand. You are right, I thought it was to get him out for the five family meeting and than hide out until proven innocent
  • JackieChan
    Day Player
    • Mar 2021
    • 626
    #5
    Originally posted by parker joe View Post
    Carly's impulsive and reckless.

    Jason wouldn't have needed to escape in the first place if Carly hadn't kidnapped Florence, thus angering Cyrus. Jason would be more than capable of defending himself on the outside. Two wrongs don't make Carly right.
    Cyrus was already going to be gunning for the Corinthos territory. This situation wasn’t started or caused by Carly. It was caused by Cyrus

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    • cruella369
      #5.2
      cruella369 commented
      May 13, 2021, 09:57 AM
      Editing a comment
      How did Carly kidnapping Florence put Jason under Cyrus' control? It actually stopped Cryus from ACTIVELY trying to kill Jason. Cyrus FINALLY came up with a plan to take Jason out of the picture and Carly got him out of Pentonville. Thus removing Jason YET AGAIN from Cyrus' control.

      You do remember that Cyrus was willing to blow up a bar, had a sniper at the docks and has actively been hurting other people to get to Jason. While people around him (Dev, Brando) kept getting hurt.
    • parker joe
      #5.3
      parker joe commented
      May 13, 2021, 06:38 PM
      Editing a comment
      cruella369 Cyrus stopped actively trying to kill Jason? Then why are Carly and Sam panicked that Jason's going to die in Pentonville, the jail Cyrus "runs"? Carly put Jason under Cyrus' thumb twice. She angered Cyrus, and Cyrus retaliated framing Jason for Franco's murder to get him into Pentonville. And then she arranged the stabbing that brought Jason to GH---another place Cyrus runs with minimal interference.

      Yes, I know Cyrus was going after Jason even before Sonny died. Where is Jason more useful? In Port Charles, or on the run? Because I don't see how Jason can do anything to thwart Cyrus while running for his life. Today, even Jason said he knew the jailbreak was the wrong move, but because Carly was panicking, he did it. So, am I really supposed to think Jason is mistaken?
    • cruella369
      #5.4
      cruella369 commented
      May 13, 2021, 11:28 PM
      Editing a comment
      The boy reason Cyrus was free to go after Jason was NIKOLAS. And then Carly adjusted. And get Jason out. And Cyrus has NO LEVERAGE.
  • JackieChan
    Day Player
    • Mar 2021
    • 626
    #6
    Originally posted by Lil Fey View Post
    I think Carly was wrong for having Shawn stab him AND breaking him out at the hospital. How would anyone in their right mind would think it is ok to break out of jail because they are innocent of the crime they are in jail for?
    She didn’t break him out because he was innocent, she broke him out because he was in danger

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    • Bella Scorpio
      Contract Poster
      • Feb 2013
      • 2939
      #7
      And this right here is the whole problem with GH's mob bosses. Jason is a hitman who can handle himself against the best of them. Jason and Sonny being in the mob business should have people at the jail on the take to protect them - most mobsters do. If Jason is supposed to be this big time mobster, can he not take care of himself? Does he really need Carly to take care of him? That's why GH's mob is stupid. Sonny and Jason should have been killed a long time ago with the way they run their mob territory. Cyrus is more of the traditional bad guy mobster, which I guess they need to make Sonny and Jason the new kinder and gentler mobsters who are to be applauded and worshipped for being good mobsters.

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      • want2stayGHfan
        I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
        • Jul 2015
        • 9153
        #8
        Originally posted by JackieChan View Post
        She didn’t break him out because he was innocent, she broke him out because he was in danger
        As I recall, she broke him out because she wanted him to go to that stupid meeting.

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        • Q777S
          Soap Addict
          • Jan 2015
          • 7121
          #9
          first of sll it didn’t make sense to me that jason - the cloaked super hure of pc - should ever be beaten up or killed because he has everything under control. his shouldn't his cloak prevent him from needing anyone’s help.

          and , if carly and her stupid plan of kidnaping an elderly woman had never happened, jason might not even be in jail - cyrus framed him as retaliation

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          • DayRose
            #9.2
            DayRose commented
            May 12, 2021, 02:31 PM
            Editing a comment
            Cyrus framed Jason to help Peter.
          • Q777S
            #9.3
            Q777S commented
            May 12, 2021, 04:03 PM
            Editing a comment
            yep all those things happened and cyrus has been on a mission to take control of pc territory .

            but when carly and jason decided not to release the mommy , cyrus saw an opportunity to frame jason with peter’s help.

            i did not say carly started the war but she dang sure didn’t help matters

            but your sarcasm is entertaining ??
          • parker joe
            #9.4
            parker joe commented
            May 13, 2021, 06:40 PM
            Editing a comment
            YES. Carly's rash decisions are not helping Jason.
        • Carablue
          Board Regular
          • Feb 2012
          • 1377
          #10
          A funny thing happened though, Florence was enjoying her "kidnapping" and didn't want to be back under Cyrus' control.

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          • AngelOfSoap
            Senior Board Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 1811
            #11
            Originally posted by cruella369 View Post
            To get Jason out of jail. It was made pretty clear that he was going to get beat up/killed in jail. Jason pretty much said it was going to happen and Cyrus confirmed it. Then Cyrus was working to get him taken out in the hospital. Yes, Britt opened her mouth to the wrong person - which caused complications. But Jason and Britt got away (and lord knows this isn't the first time Jason has gotten wounded). Now we have Peter and Cyrus worried about taking jason out - but they cannot find him. It seems to me like Carly made the right decision.

            I really wish that they would stop writing carly's schemes as "wrong" and writing her as in need of Jason's help. SHe handled the Jason situation, she blew up Cyrus' ship (and now DA Scorpio is looking into the contents) and she hadnled the meeting. Yes, Jason is on the run, but that is a time honored GH tradition. (Luke/Laura, Sonny/Brenda, Jason/Sam).
            As for Carly being wrong - it is against the law to break someone out of jail or police custody. Does anyone think Carly will be arrested or service any time for that? Even when Jason is proven innocent it will not change the law: breaking a prisoner out of jail or police custody is against the law. Jason is not the only innocent person in jail. Jason is not the only innocent person in jail that has had their life threatened and those people's family members are not breaking them out. Why? Because it is against the law and nothing good will come of it. This is a soap so I have to remind myself that this would not happen in the real world.

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            • seanny
              Board Regular
              • Jan 2006
              • 1141
              #12
              I too am so tired of the constant "Carly's plans go awry and cause trouble for Jason and Sonny" plots. It's been so overdone for more than a decade that it reeks of sexism.

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              • cruella369
                #12.1
                cruella369 commented
                May 13, 2021, 11:33 AM
                Editing a comment
                I completely agree. I feel like Sonny, Jason and Jax use that line to keep Carly in her corner. It was fun to see the women work with Carly - no one had to put anyone down. No one had to yell and no one was condescending. I really liked Valentin calling Carly out, but also admiring her intelligence and working with her. Maybe it is me getting older, but I am getting sick of the condescending way men treat women on GH. I feel like there is a change in the air and I, for one, like it. I love Kevin telling Laura he thought she was magnificent. I loved Nik and Ava's honest conversation and I loved that Carly's pla, working with others, was successful (Jason is out of jail, the meeting was handled, Cyrus looked weak when his shipment blew up and the families went with Carly not Cyrus).
            • McShirls
              Soap Addict
              • Dec 2017
              • 6217
              #13
              Originally posted by cruella369 View Post
              How did Carly kidnapping Florence put Jason under Cyrus' control? It actually stopped Cryus from ACTIVELY trying to kill Jason. Cyrus FINALLY came up with a plan to take Jason out of the picture and Carly got him out of Pentonville. Thus removing Jason YET AGAIN from Cyrus' control.

              You do remember that Cyrus was willing to blow up a bar, had a sniper at the docks and has actively been hurting other people to get to Jason. While people around him (Dev, Brando) kept getting hurt.
              Cyrus also sabotaged Jason's motorcycle....

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              • littleliz
                I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
                • Nov 2016
                • 8045
                #14
                Jax today was so over the top with Carly it made me want to hit the TV. He was totally annoying about Carly and Joss. Someone stick a fork in him..

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