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Bo Gives His Seal Of Approval to Ben and Ciara's Relationship!

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  • July Baby
    Aspiring soap scribe
    • Nov 2010
    • 14690

    Bo Gives His Seal Of Approval to Ben and Ciara's Relationship!

    I found that scene very interesting and I'm curious about Bo fans' reactions. I like Ben, but I imagine there are a lot of fans who cringed at Bo's praise for him. For anyone who still thinks of Ben as an unrepentant, irredeemable serial killer, do you now change your mind because Bo Brady has declared him redeemed? So many fans have insisted over the years that Bo would never have approved of Ciara being married to Ben Weston. Was his praise for Ben OOC in your opinion? Will Bo's seal of approval affect how you see Ben and his relationship with Ciara in the future? I'd love to hear your thoughts.

  • JackandJenfan
    Soap Addict
    • Jul 2018
    • 6227

    #2
    There's already a thread about Bo that has people's reactions to it.

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    • TheRealDeal
      Board Regular
      • Sep 2019
      • 803

      #3
      Bo only spent a few minutes with Ciara so I didn’t expect him to use that time bashing Ben. Bo was also still alive I believe when Ben was the necktie killer so he wasn’t watching from above then. I saw it and it was terrible. I don’t hate Ben but he’s still partly that person to me. It was cold and calculated and as a viewer I still haven’t bought into his redemption.
      Last edited by TheRealDeal; May 18, 2022, 09:53 AM.

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      • mymommasaid
        Aspiring soap scribe
        • Feb 2007
        • 28587

        #4
        I wasn’t thrilled when Hope signed off on their relationship or Bo’s thumbs up. My opinion of Ben will never change. I just don’t think his character is worthy of redemption. I wish the writers would stop trying to force it, especially when other characters who have either committed the same or lesser offense are either killed off or labeled as irredeemable.

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        • happy33
          happy33 commented
          Editing a comment
          mymommasaid I think it’s too late for Charlie, and Nick, I don’t think the tptb will bring them back as living beings. I can’t believe I’m writing this lol but, Charlie is literally dust now, I think that means he can’t even come back even as undead. The actors my come back. It seems to be the in thing lately, actors coming back as new characters if I had to pick between the two characters, I think Nick had a better chance at being redeemed because he was a Horton. But for whatever reason they just didn’t want to go there. As far as Kristen I think tptb realized Kristen is more interesting as when she’s unredeemable.

          lagirl Ciara never blackmailed Hope. There was never a scene where she gave Hope an ultimatum, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to
          Last edited by happy33; May 18, 2022, 08:53 PM.

        • mymommasaid
          mymommasaid commented
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          happy33 That’s my point. I think that Ben should have received the same fate as Nick and Charlie, yet he’s running around like some hero and his father is attempting to be a romantic interest.

        • happy33
          happy33 commented
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          mymommasaid I agree with you about Clyde, JR is a talented actor,but Clyde romancing Nancy is wrong on so many levels. First he is about to become a drug dealer again, he hasn’t changed, so he will likely be back in prison before long. Is this the best tptb could come up with? The bigger issue is that Clyde raped Jordan. Did Jordan ever tell anyone? Does anyone know that Clyde is a a child predator? Has he ever admitted it?. Writing a child predator into a romantic relationship, is so wrong

          As for Ben, tptb saw potential, but I think it was mostly potential tied with the cin pairing. Ben came back acknowledging what he did, and was remorseful. But I don’t think that would have been enough to garner enough interest in him long term. It was the pairing, and their popularity that help make his return and redemption work. I don’t think tptb saw Charlie as anything more than Ava’s unwanted son and alley’s rapist
          But the turn they took with Nick surprised me. He was Horton, Marie’s grandson. I guess you could say he inherited too much from his grandfather Alex Marshal. But tptb could have turned the character around, used love to help redeemed him
      • Daysie
        Senior Board Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 1655

        #5
        I liked it. Ben is far from the crazed killer he was. Can I see that level of change happening in real life? Of course not!! It’s part of the fun of the soap. You liked Robert Scott Wilson?? Days brought him back. His redemption story wasn’t near the length of Jack’s from back in the day, but it was enough for me. And for Bo!

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        • happy33
          happy33 commented
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          Actually Ben’s redemption might have been longer, or at least more in-depth. Jack raped Kayla in 1987 or 1988. After the rape he was still pretty awful, remember his relationship with Melissa? . By 1989 he was already paired with Jen and by 1990, I would say he was fully redeemed, I don’t know if they spent that much time on it. It seemed like he battled inner demons about his bio and adoptive fathers, and suddenly he realized what he had done. But it did take Kayla and Steve decades to fully come to terms of what Jack did, and accept him in their lives.Sometimes I think Kayla still struggles with it.

        • Emerald Greens
          Emerald Greens commented
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          I agree the writing threw Ben under the bus for Chabby and this is how they fixed it to bring the actor back. It won’t work for everyone but it’s how they
          did it. Would this be possible in real life? No but as you said it’s a soap and we either accept at least in fiction it can happen or we don’t. I don’t always accept or agree with character changes or direction but I accept that it’s part of how daytime adapts to keep going.
          I don’t always object to what is considered out of character either . First it’s somewhat objective to what is ooc and also people do ooc of character things all the time and they can’t always have them doing just what we expect characters can change.
          Last edited by Emerald Greens; May 18, 2022, 01:56 PM.

        • cali815
          cali815 commented
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          Ben's "redemption" was not in-depth. It consisted of demonizing the people who had every right to hate Ben and making other character act out of character and accept/forgive Ben. And they manufactured a Ben saves Julie scenario so Hope, Doug and Julie would be grateful to Ben. The writers has Ben "suffer" at the hands of Eve and Vincent (demonizing them) in order to drum up sympathy and make it look like he "suffered' for his sins.

          There was never any real explanation for how Ben's supposed mental illness drove him to go on his killing spree. There was no treatment that got to the root of in and therefore led to some sort of resolution. He is on medication. That's it. He said he was sorry a couple of times but never talked in depth about all of his violent acts / murders (and that would have taken some time). It's just not enough for EVERYTHING he did.
      • Beca Drags
        Aspiring soap scribe
        • Apr 2005
        • 27181

        #6
        Utterly ridiculous! I don't care that Bo Brady himself gave Ben his stamp of approval, it will never change my mind that the writing hooked Bo's daughter up with a serial killler! Disgusting!

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        • mymommasaid
          Aspiring soap scribe
          • Feb 2007
          • 28587

          #7
          Maybe Bo doesn’t feel directly affected by Bens crimes because he didn’t strangle someone he cares about to death. It was interesting to see Shane still harboring some anger towards Ben for killing Paige on Beyond Salem.

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          • dee2
            dee2 commented
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            That's all that makes sense, Ben's victim's families not ever accepting of Ben, even if they are
            forced to be around him. There are plenty of people in Salem who feel that way about someone.
        • dee2
          I Let My Evil Twin Post For Me
          • Dec 2015
          • 9705

          #8
          IMO, it was very OOC, the same way the rest of Ciara's family's forced acceptance of Ben was. I care about the character
          of Bo, but I could always see when he was OOC, or being written for poorly. It doesn't change my opinion about Ben at all;
          just makes me sad that that is what Bo was brought back for.

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          • CallAboutTheCat
            CallAboutTheCat commented
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            Don't forget: He was also brought back to resuscitate flatlined Tripp. He had a busy day.
        • happy33
          Scriptwriter
          • Mar 2005
          • 4950

          #9
          I think if Bo were alive he would have had major issues with Ben. But like everyone else in the Brady and Horton family, he would have come to accept Ben. He knows Ben is a different person. Bo has forgiven people in his life for their behaviour, which included trying to kill him. So Bo reassuring Ben of his redemption is very much in character, because in life Bo believed in redemption, and who knows maybe he learned more about it after his death.

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          • Abby_fan
            Aspiring soap scribe
            • Jun 2015
            • 10830

            #10
            I think that the writers are hoping that Ben’s redemption is accepted by all since the iconic Bo Brady gives his stamp of approval. I, myself, think it was heavy handed and full of crap. It didn’t change my mind one way or the other.

            This is a great topic, by the way. I can’t wait to read everyone’s take on the matter.

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            • Beca Drags
              Beca Drags commented
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              Well said Abbyfan!! I agree with every word!

            • Emerald Greens
              Emerald Greens commented
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              I don’t think that is what they were doing. I think it’s how they are handling that Ciera and Ben are a couple and that’s that . Not everyone will like them or accept it and they don’t have to. This saying Bo accepts them and it’s the final seal of approval as far as they are concerned.
          • mymommasaid
            Aspiring soap scribe
            • Feb 2007
            • 28587

            #11
            I’ve always wondered if Will had never returned and stayed dead at the hands of Ben, would he be as accepted by the Brady’s/Hortons.

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            • tiff5555
              Aspiring soap scribe
              • Jul 2007
              • 61569

              #12
              Ben was already redeemed in how he saved Ciara from disasters. But unlimited, it was when Ben saved Julie from a heart attack. ...I think some of us, forget THIS part with him and Julie. Bo's part....it could be a hit and miss, but Angel Bo knows, that Ciara is crazy for this man. So he automatically accepts him anyways.

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              • happy33
                happy33 commented
                Editing a comment
                JackandJenfan in the park Ben performed CPR on her. She was conscious, freaked out and then passed out. In later scenes it was specifically mentioned that performing cpr saved her life

              • JackandJenfan
                JackandJenfan commented
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                happy33 Ok. My bad. It happens.

              • happy33
                happy33 commented
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                JackandJenfan no worries
            • Fancy863
              Board Regular
              • Aug 2019
              • 1267

              #13
              Ben was a serial killer. That’s more than enough reason not to like him. It doesn’t help that they paired him with another unlikable person. I don’t care for either. It was nice having Bo back but his acceptance of Ben doesn’t move me. The reason behind his killings was truly weak and truly unnecessary even with the mental illness rewrite.

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              • tiff5555
                tiff5555 commented
                Editing a comment
                Jack was a rapist and Days moved him on to a pairing that made history. Xander moved onto a pairing that some actually is still rooting for this day. I guess the same could be done for Ben.

              • cali815
                cali815 commented
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                Jack and even Xander do not have the body count and level of violence that Ben has in his history. They really do not compare to Ben. Kristin is more the equivalent to Ben.
            • Flowercity79
              Soap Addict
              • Oct 2017
              • 6062

              #14
              It wasn't OOC at all. Maybe if Bo was still alive we wouldve seen him fight as hard, if not harder than Hope did to keep them apart. But he is in heaven and he has sern Ben change over the years. He sees how much he loves his daughter, so as implausible as it may seem, I believe Bo would actually accept Ben. Of course IRL that would never happen lol

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              • PatchSweetness
                PatchSweetness commented
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                Exactly! This is perfectly stated.
            • Katedimera2003
              Board Regular
              • Apr 2013
              • 725

              #15
              Not only was it out of character it was disrespectful to his step niece (who is also his best friends grand daughter), his nephew Will and his wife's cousin and best friend Jennifer. He didn't kill Abby but he terrorized her. Also, he kills women. Can we just stop there. Go kill a man! It's disgusting.

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              • JackandJenfan
                JackandJenfan commented
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                I'm sure angel Bo talked to angel Paige in heaven.

                But seriously, killing men is better?!

              • tiff5555
                tiff5555 commented
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                I feel the same way of Xander, in how he used a metal wire on Nicole back in 2015. I am mad that Abby never got her consequences back in 2018. So I find sympathy here as well.

              • cali815
                cali815 commented
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                Angel Bo talked to Angel Paige in heaven. Mocking? Fine, I don't think "angel Paige" would give the OK for her killer to get the happily ever after, family life, children that he robbed her of. I don't think Angel Serena or Angel Wendy would send their warm regards either.

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