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The beginning of Xander's downfall

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  • #16
    Originally posted by isa View Post
    Day two was awesome! The Eric and Xander confrontation was awesome! Eric dropping truth bombs like nobody's business. Xander is delusional. Rambling about how they could have kept Rachel and how he was attempting to put blame on Eric for doing the right thing. I think Eric's right about Xander being a sociopath, his smugness as he watched Brady and Kristen mourn their daughter. Smugness as he bullied Ciara and Nicole and Dr. Raynor. Smugness when he paid that visit to Ben in Statesville and threatened Ciara's life with the claim it would never be traced back to him, taunted Will when he knew that Will was innocent. He really believed he was untouchable and the whole time I was thinking run that big, filthy mouth because in the end those people are going to be ok and he will be left with nothing. Who thinks he's about to lose that cushy Titan position next? And yes, I know he didn't act alone but in the end the choice was his and I knew it was all going to fall on him.
    Well said . This idea Xander really not so bad or actually good is perplexing. He’s not just a rougher around the edges type like Bo or Steve he’s awful.

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    • #17
      I think Xander can do better in terms of a love interest to be honest. And who is Kristen to put a knife in anybody? Does she have no self-awareness? Shouldn't having her child back be more important than making people pay right now? All she should do is call the cops and let them do their job so she can get her baby from that lunatic. Victor will pay and so will Xander.

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      • #18
        The only 'clean' people in all of this are Brady and Eric. I like Xander and Sarah and hope find their way back to each other, but Sarah had no problem lying to Eric about that kid's paternity. Kirsten gets no sympathy from me either since she was about to have Rolf steal Sarah's embryo before she found out she was already pregnant. She doesn't have the high ground to take revenge on ANYONE.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Abby_fan View Post
          Why is everyone saying Xander did it? Xander was going on Victor’s orders. I felt sorry for both Xander and Sarah. This is so heartbreaking for someone who loves this couple. Xander was so devastated. His descent to the floor was so very sad And Sarah having to say goodbye to her “daughter” is so sad

          Kristen should be grateful she has her daughter and not do anything to Xander after all the hurt she has caused the good people of Salem. But I know she is going to go ballistic. I wish Lani could be in her orbit to reel her in.
          I agree. I felt so sad for Xander. If Ben can get another chance, why can't Xander? All he ever wanted was to be accepted into the family, hence his utter devotion to Victor, and to be loved. He would do ANYTHING for Sarah, just as Victor would for Maggie. And he also did this to spare Maggie and Sarah further anguish. Not saying he wasn't misguided, but really, in typical soap opera fashion, every wedding has to be thwarted with some terrible action or revelation. And Sarah, miss High and Mighty good 2 shoes (although I commend her acting throughout this s/l) is a total hypocrite. She totally deserves to be with Eric.

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          • cali815
            #19.1
            cali815 commented
            April 20, 2020, 12:25 AM
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            Don't worry, Xander will get that second chance. He is a survivor.
        • #20
          Who said that Xander can't get another chance?

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          • #21
            Originally posted by MzMasani View Post
            The only 'clean' people in all of this are Brady and Eric. I like Xander and Sarah and hope find their way back to each other, but Sarah had no problem lying to Eric about that kid's paternity. Kirsten gets no sympathy from me either since she was about to have Rolf steal Sarah's embryo before she found out she was already pregnant. She doesn't have the high ground to take revenge on ANYONE.
            Eric killed Daniel. So he will never be clean in my eyes.

            The only thing going against Brady is that the writers are stupid enough to pair him with a woman who has repeatedly ruined his life and the lives of his family members.

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            • #22
              Originally posted by Emerald Greens View Post

              Well said . This idea Xander really not so bad or actually good is perplexing. He’s not just a rougher around the edges type like Bo or Steve he’s awful.
              Because who are we comparing him too?

              Eric: Killed Daniel thus depriving Melanie, Parker and Holly of their father. Plus he's raising Holly which is sick. And he slept with Sara who was Daniel's sister...which is sick. And he slept with Daniel's ex lovers Nicole and Jennifer after he killed the guy. He's just a real sicko. When he doesn't get his way he gets violent and smacks people around like he did Brady. He's unhinged.

              Nicole: Guilty of her own baby swap where she made Eric's twin sister think her baby was dead. Not that Eric ever cared about Sami or what she's had to go through.

              Kristen: Haley's murderer. She stole Tate from Theresa's womb. She planned to steal Sara's baby first. She tormented Marlena for years. She faked Nicole and Holly's deaths and kept them prisoners. She pretended to be Nicole when she tricked Brady into the sex that conceived Rachel.

              Brady: The male bimbo who is stupid enough to stay with the murderer that once was engaged to his father, that stole his last baby from Theresa's womb and tricked him into thinking he was sleeping with his ex-girlfriend (that she was holding prisoner).

              Yeah none of these people have the right to sit in judgment of Xander. Sara does I guess but she did the right thing taking the baby away from these monsters.

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              • JackandJenfan
                #22.1
                JackandJenfan commented
                April 20, 2020, 08:33 AM
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                Daniel's death was an accident. Eric didn't set out to shoot or stab a guy. He stupidly drove drunk and couldn't react fast enough on the icy road. He paid for it. Eric did Salem a favor. Daniel groped his patients then seduced them... Which was sick. Then verbally abused Nicole constantly which was sick. Dan tried to sex up a pregnant Nicole, which was sick. Don't see how Eric is a sicko for sleeping with the love of his life, Nicole. He punched people who tried to kill him and his loved ones or who blackmailed them and threatened to take away her daughter.
                Last edited by JackandJenfan; April 20, 2020, 08:41 AM.
              • JackandJenfan
                #22.2
                JackandJenfan commented
                April 20, 2020, 08:34 AM
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                Sarah doesn't. She is the one that started the lie. Lying about paternity in the first place!
              • Emerald Greens
                #22.3
                Emerald Greens commented
                April 20, 2020, 09:25 AM
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                It’s Brady’s daughter. Xander has no claim to her.

                Eric was stupid to drive drunk but he didn’t set out to kill anyone.

                I agree Daniel was kind of a predator who berated Nicole constantly.

                Sarah set up the paternity lie and is getting a taste of her own medicine. I feel bad because she’s attached to the baby but she’s no innocent.
            • #23
              Originally posted by pnorbert2222 View Post

              Because who are we comparing him too?

              Eric: Killed Daniel thus depriving Melanie, Parker and Holly of their father. Plus he's raising Holly which is sick. And he slept with Sara who was Daniel's sister...which is sick. And he slept with Daniel's ex lovers Nicole and Jennifer after he killed the guy. He's just a real sicko. When he doesn't get his way he gets violent and smacks people around like he did Brady. He's unhinged.

              Nicole: Guilty of her own baby swap where she made Eric's twin sister think her baby was dead. Not that Eric ever cared about Sami or what she's had to go through.

              Kristen: Haley's murderer. She stole Tate from Theresa's womb. She planned to steal Sara's baby first. She tormented Marlena for years. She faked Nicole and Holly's deaths and kept them prisoners. She pretended to be Nicole when she tricked Brady into the sex that conceived Rachel.

              Brady: The male bimbo who is stupid enough to stay with the murderer that once was engaged to his father, that stole his last baby from Theresa's womb and tricked him into thinking he was sleeping with his ex-girlfriend (that she was holding prisoner).

              Yeah none of these people have the right to sit in judgment of Xander. Sara does I guess but she did the right thing taking the baby away from these monsters.
              Great post thanks for the history of all the hypocrites

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              • #24
                Originally posted by pnorbert2222 View Post

                Because who are we comparing him too?

                Eric: Killed Daniel thus depriving Melanie, Parker and Holly of their father. Plus he's raising Holly which is sick. And he slept with Sara who was Daniel's sister...which is sick. And he slept with Daniel's ex lovers Nicole and Jennifer after he killed the guy. He's just a real sicko. When he doesn't get his way he gets violent and smacks people around like he did Brady. He's unhinged.

                Nicole: Guilty of her own baby swap where she made Eric's twin sister think her baby was dead. Not that Eric ever cared about Sami or what she's had to go through.

                Kristen: Haley's murderer. She stole Tate from Theresa's womb. She planned to steal Sara's baby first. She tormented Marlena for years. She faked Nicole and Holly's deaths and kept them prisoners. She pretended to be Nicole when she tricked Brady into the sex that conceived Rachel.

                Brady: The male bimbo who is stupid enough to stay with the murderer that once was engaged to his father, that stole his last baby from Theresa's womb and tricked him into thinking he was sleeping with his ex-girlfriend (that she was holding prisoner).

                Yeah none of these people have the right to sit in judgment of Xander. Sara does I guess but she did the right thing taking the baby away from these monsters.
                Xander has to be bad so that Nicole can look good. She has to make up for all the horrible things she’s done so put her next to Kristen and Xander and let her redemption begin.

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                • JackandJenfan
                  #24.1
                  JackandJenfan commented
                  April 20, 2020, 08:43 AM
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                  Nicole doesn't need to be redeemed. Xander was always a villain.
                • Fancy863
                  #24.2
                  Fancy863 commented
                  April 20, 2020, 08:50 AM
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                  JackandJenfan Nicole was never a victim until Xander was on the show. She’s never been as bad as him or Kristen but she did her share of making others miserable.
                • JackandJenfan
                  #24.3
                  JackandJenfan commented
                  April 20, 2020, 09:03 AM
                  Editing a comment
                  Nicole's a vixen. That's her role. Nicole was a victim from the start. Abusive dad/molested and forced into pornography...... Xander being Ericole's antagonist has little bearing on him switching the babies to "protect" Maggie and Sarah.
              • #25
                I don't get how this story line of Sarah taking the baby is even a thing! She's on the Titan jet for God's sake, doesn't the pilot have a cell phone or contact with any tower that can tell him to turn the plane around!?!? This is just stupid!!!

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                • #26
                  Xander is awful. A murderer, kidnapper - etc

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                  • #27
                    Originally posted by JackandJenfan View Post
                    Who said that Xander can't get another chance?
                    If you read all the posts re: Xander, you'd see how many haters there are.

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                    • JackandJenfan
                      #27.1
                      JackandJenfan commented
                      April 20, 2020, 11:55 AM
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                      Not every character is going to be loved. Shrug. There are those that will dislike him no matter what.
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