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    I stopped watching when Stefan came on canvas so I'm really confused about this s/l. Apparently he is Chad's brother? Who is his mother and I'm guessing Stefano was his father? Also, Abby is pregnant is the baby Stefan's or Chad's? Did Stefan rape her? Thanks!

  • #2
    Vivian is Stefan's mother, and Stefano is father to both he and Chad, making them half-brothers. Abby is pregnant with Chad's child, but Gabi switched the paternity results to make Abby think Stefan is the father from when he raped Abigail in her mental incapacitated state when she developed DID and had alters acting in her body. Abby wasn't aware of these alters and had no control over them, but Gabi is still angry, because Abby's alters helped Stefan set up Gabi for Andre's death. Abby accidentally killed him in self-defense, causing her mind to split into the alters of "Gabby" and "Dr. Laura". So, Gabi isn't accepting it was just Abby's alters, she's out for vengeance against Abby. Gabi is faking friendship to Abby, but plotting revenge behind her back, switching the paternity results and now trying to drive a deep wedge between Chad and Abby. He's moved out, cause he can't handle thinking she is pregnant from Stefan, and now Gabi is advising him to divorce Abigail. There's probably some details I haven't explained, but that's the gist of it.

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    • #3
      Wow, my dislike for Gabi continues to grow. Shouldn't she be mad at Stefan and not Abby for setting her up for Andre's death if Abby wasn't in her right mind? Does anyone else know that Chad is the father? I hope Chad and Abby figure out the truth soon! And did Chad not go after Stefan for raping his wife??

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      • Chabby lover
        Chabby lover commented
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        Yes she should be mad at Stefan but she blames Abby and seems to only be going for revenge against Abby instead of Stefan. Abby was not mentally aware of any thing when her alter took over she had no idea what was going on. Stefan did everything he is also the one who set her up in the first place. Yes Gabi told Kate that Chad is the father and Kate is helping Gabi since Gabi blackmailed Kate to keep quiet about the baby by telling her she would tell Chad that Kate is giving information to Stefan since he is also blackmailing her but it seems to me Kate is happy to help Gabi she doesn't care that Chad is the father of that baby.

    • #4
      Originally posted by BabyblueYR View Post
      Wow, my dislike for Gabi continues to grow. Shouldn't she be mad at Stefan and not Abby for setting her up for Andre's death if Abby wasn't in her right mind? Does anyone else know that Chad is the father? I hope Chad and Abby figure out the truth soon! And did Chad not go after Stefan for raping his wife??
      Yes, Gabi should be more angry at Stefan, but she seems totally focused on Abby. Personally, I think it's stemming from jealousy over Abby and Chad choosing to go back to Abby last year, over Gabi. That's not been proven on screen, just MY theory and it's all coming out now. Kate does know that Chad is the father, but Gabi persuaded her to keep the secret. Gabi got to the test results before anyone else saw them. She burned the original ones. Chad walked in on finding Abby...well, really the alter "Gabby" in bed with Stefan and Chad beat the living daylights out of him. At first, Chad looked at it as rape, but now Abby has remembered how her alter was willing to sleep with Stefan and it's confused her feelings on whether or not it was rape, and Chad came home to seeing Abby let Stefan touch her pregnant belly, so that sent a mixed message to Chad and he walked out.

      Abby is still disgusted with Stefan and still wants nothing to do with him, but Chad is just confused now, because Abby is acting confused about her rape, and he's having trouble accepting the thought to raise "Stefan's" baby. It's really just a sad attempt from the writer to try and white wash the rape and save the character of Stefan and not make him a rapist, but it's still clear it was rape, since Abigail herself emerged, in her right mind, moments before the rape, screaming for help to get away from him, making it clear she was NOT consenting. They never show Abby remembering that part. They're purposely trying to muddy up the rape now, but, it was still rape in her mental incapacitation.

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      • #5
        I agree that it stems from Chad choosing Abby over her when Abby returned. And it's like well what did you think was going to happen? Abby is the love of his life! Gabi has always pretended to be a friend to Abby and it's disgusting what she is doing. She is gaslighting Abby at the moment as well as Chad. Does Stefan know he isn't the father of this child? I really just want Chad to figure out that he's the father!! Do you know if this story is going to drag out long?

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        • Chabby lover
          Chabby lover commented
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          No Stefan does not know he is not the father but he keeps trying to use that baby to get close to Abby even after she told him they have nothing to talk about and she is going to raise the child with Chad and she wants him to not be at any of her doctor appointments or anything she wants to just focus on her child away from him and she even told him he raped her and took advantage of her but Stefan seems to have no regret and has even said it wasn't rape because her alter Gabby wanted him. It shouldn't drag on for that long since Billy and Kate are both leaving the show since Kate is coming back in November and they are saying both will be gone by February they have 5 months left on the show of seeing Chad and Abby.

      • #6
        Originally posted by BabyblueYR View Post
        I agree that it stems from Chad choosing Abby over her when Abby returned. And it's like well what did you think was going to happen? Abby is the love of his life! Gabi has always pretended to be a friend to Abby and it's disgusting what she is doing. She is gaslighting Abby at the moment as well as Chad. Does Stefan know he isn't the father of this child? I really just want Chad to figure out that he's the father!! Do you know if this story is going to drag out long?
        No, Stefan doesn't know either. Gabi is duping him too, hoping to crush him later after he bonds with the baby, that Chad is the true father and then Stefan will lose the child. That seems to be the extent of revenge she has planned for Stefan. Her revenge is mostly focused on Abby. Yep, now she's sunk even lower to mess around with the mental state of Abigail again by gaslighting her making her think her alter is back. I think we still have several more months of this, before Chad finds out the truth and the extent of Gabi's revenge is exposed.

        Oh and it doesn't help that Chad and Gabi now ended up living under the same roof together at the Kirakis mansion. Ari asked Gabi for a sleepover after Ari got over being mad at Gabi for being away so long and Gabi gladly accepted and then as soon as she saw that Chad left Abby, he came to see Sonny and she immediately jumped into to ask Chad to stay there too, to which Sonny, of course welcomed. So they're both living there now. So now she's using Ari as a way to keep Chad close and in her clutches away from Abby. Abby even walked in on a family like moment between Chad/Gabi/Ari so Abby wasn't happy to see that. Abby is manipulating Chad in her little private talks, lying to him saying that Abby was mad that he's spending more time with Ari than with Thomas. Abby never said that, and now Gabi's urging him now to divorce Abby.
        Last edited by Beca Drags; September 6, 2018, 12:47 PM.

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        • #7
          Yes, Viv and Stefano are Stefan's parents.
          Stefan is in love with Abby
          Abby killed Andre when sane and blame it on Gabi. After that DID happened. She committed several crimes too. Under DID, Abby was Gabigail & Lauragail
          Stefan tried to help Abby, but Gabigail stopped him. He was in awe of her as well.
          Gabigail pursued Stefan and eventually had sex. But on Abby side, it was a rape.
          Eventually the town knew and wanted to arrest Abby. But since her family interfered, Abby never paid for her consequences, which is making Gabi mad.
          Gabi went to jail, by Lauragail. Gabi got punched by Diane, who was Raines girlfriend. 2 twice again. Gabi now can not have no more babies.

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          • Samisbiggestfan
            Samisbiggestfan commented
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            Umm, Abby did pay. She was ripped baron her family to get mentally evaluated.

          • tiff5555
            tiff5555 commented
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            Abby has NEVER paid, my friend! She did not served her time in jail, and never been on trial.

        • #8
          Abby didn’t blame Gabi when she was sane. Abigail had a mental break after killing Andre, and put on some clothes and a wig from the Gabi Chic collection. She was planning to frame Stefan. He caught her in the act of framing him. Stefan convinced Abigail to let him handle the framing. No one in the town wanted Abigail arrested because they all knew that Abigail wouldn’t kill Andre in cold blood. They all knew it was self defense. Abby loved Andre.
          Last edited by Abby_fan; September 6, 2018, 09:51 PM.

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          • #9
            Abby_fan Abby did blame on Gabi's pic when sane in GabiChic room, and then that's how the DID started. She pretended to be Gabi and plant the evidence and make it look like the real Gabi did it. I have to say that Abby may have hid behind this new illness, to be called DID.

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            • Chabby lover
              Chabby lover commented
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              She did not blame Gabi at all according to the alter Dr. Laura she came in after Andre died and she made Gabby when she went into Gabi's office and she did not blame Gabi at all. her DID started way before she went into the office it started after she KILLED Andre in self defnese

            • tiff5555
              tiff5555 commented
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              Abby did blamed on Gabi's pic in GabiChic room when sane! There was a flashback.

          • #10
            If that is when the DID started, then Abby wasn’t sane.

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            • #11
              BabyblueYR Here's a longer detailed description of how this story played out......

              *Stefan did become obsessed with Abby, but realized he would never have her and that she would never love or want him because she was utterly devoted to and in love with ONLY Chad, and always would be. Abigail's DID illness presented an opportunity for Stefan to have "some obscure part of her" So his obsession deepened to basically, being obsessed with a glitch in Abby's brain, wearing a wig. He was told by Marlena, the alters are NOT real, but he ignored that advice.

              *Abby accidentally killed Andre in self-defense, after she went to confront him on why he fired Gabi, and then she overheard him talking to himself, how he had betrayed Chad and Abigail by working with Vivian to gain power at DiMera. She told Andre she was going to tell Chad and a physical struggle ensued and he physically restrained her, to which she felt threatened and reached for something to put a stop to his physical restraint, and it accidentally ended up killing him. Then her mind splintered because it was so traumatizing to her. It splintered into a form of "Gabi/Gabby" because she had just come from seeing Gabi who vowed she would kill Andre and because she ended up in the Gabi chic office where fragments of Gabi were all around. All of these fragments helped unintentionally form the alter in Abby's mind and because of how viewed Gabi as a strong person that could shield Abigail from the harsh reality of killing Andre, and could handle this tough situation. She didn't intentionally blame it on Gabi. Abby had no idea that Gabi was being blamed.

              *Stefan NEVER, NOT ONCE tried to help Abby. He kept his mouth shut when he saw how ill she was and used her mental illness against her and loved sticking it to Chad, with vague digs here and there.

              *Gabby" pursuing" Stefan doesn't matter, Stefan is the one that should have put a STOP to it, immediately and he didn't. He enjoyed using Abigail's mental break for his own selfish lust and purposes, including raping Abigail in that mental incapacity. Abigail also did have a chance to make it clear she was NOT consenting to sex when she emerged for a few minutes in her lucid mind, and realized what was about to happen. She screamed for help to get away, but he held her physically, and manipulated her fragile mind again to bring the alter back out so he could feel he had consent for sex. He just ignored Abigail's objection and NON-consent to sex and raped Abby's body anyway.

              *Abby willingly confessed to the police when she realized she did kill Andre by accident, and when she realized all her alters had done, including hitting Kate, Vivian, Marlena over the head and sealing them in the dungeon room, all while the alter "Gabby" was out and in charge.(Abby had no knowledge that her alter did any of that) It was portrayed and explained, it was accidental and self-defense in killing Andre, and Chad made the DA see that trying a mentally ill woman that accidentally killed in self-defense wouldn't do any good. So the DA concurred and Abby left town for intense therapy. Yes, they should have shown it more in depth, and it should have been longer, but poor writing presented itself once again and it wasn't given the depth it should have been.

              *The real Gabi was set up by Stefan(He actually hid the evidence in Ari's bag or he had someone do it) Abby nor the alters did that. Also, yes, Dr. Laura too, by lying on the stand saying Gabi confessed to the killing (Again Abby had no knowledge or control of the alter Dr. Laura)

              *Gabi was beaten up in jail because she had previously, months ago, interfered in a police investigation, she was warned to stay away from, that exposed Raines' crimes, to where he kidnapped Gabi, again because she put herself into a situation she was warned to stay away from. Gabi Getting Raines exposed, pissed off Raines' girlfriend who was already in jail, and that's what led to Gabi being beaten.

              *Gabi was told by Kayla her chances for another child in the future COULD BE compromised. Kayla NEVER said, she can't for sure and Gabi hasn't even tried to find a second or third opinion. She is just taking Kayla's vague diagnosis as a death sentence to her fertility, because it supports her "woe is me" act.

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              • #12
                Beca Drags You know Abby didn’t kill Andre in self defense. She was sane and didn't thought the lid can actually kill him. Plus she blamed it on Gabi's pic in GabiChic room. That was too, sane. And yes, Stefan did tried to help Abby, but Gabigail did not wanted him too. After that, Gabigail liked him and pursued him. That is how they ended up making love or having sex. In reality, it was a rape from Abby's side. The story is two sided...and people sees things differently, relate or what.

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                • Chabby lover
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                  She did kill Andre in self-defense that was shown and Stefan never tried to help Abby at all he took advantage of her mental state. It was not two sided at all it was full on rape.

                • tiff5555
                  tiff5555 commented
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                  She did not killed Andre in self defense. She knocked him to just to get away. The guy was pleading to her, and she did not listen.

              • #13
                Originally posted by Beca Drags View Post
                BabyblueYR Here's a longer detailed description of how this story played out......

                *Stefan did become obsessed with Abby, but realized he would never have her and that she would never love or want him because she was utterly devoted to and in love with ONLY Chad, and always would be. Abigail's DID illness presented an opportunity for Stefan to have "some obscure part of her" So his obsession deepened to basically, being obsessed with a glitch in Abby's brain, wearing a wig. He was told by Marlena, the alters are NOT real, but he ignored that advice.

                *Abby accidentally killed Andre in self-defense, after she went to confront him on why he fired Gabi, and then she overheard him talking to himself, how he had betrayed Chad and Abigail by working with Vivian to gain power at DiMera. She told Andre she was going to tell Chad and a physical struggle ensued and he physically restrained her, to which she felt threatened and reached for something to put a stop to his physical restraint, and it accidentally ended up killing him. Then her mind splintered because it was so traumatizing to her. It splintered into a form of "Gabi/Gabby" because she had just come from seeing Gabi who vowed she would kill Andre and because she ended up in the Gabi chic office where fragments of Gabi were all around. All of these fragments helped unintentionally form the alter in Abby's mind and because of how viewed Gabi as a strong person that could shield Abigail from the harsh reality of killing Andre, and could handle this tough situation. She didn't intentionally blame it on Gabi. Abby had no idea that Gabi was being blamed.

                *Stefan NEVER, NOT ONCE tried to help Abby. He kept his mouth shut when he saw how ill she was and used her mental illness against her and loved sticking it to Chad, with vague digs here and there.

                *Gabby" pursuing" Stefan doesn't matter, Stefan is the one that should have put a STOP to it, immediately and he didn't. He enjoyed using Abigail's mental break for his own selfish lust and purposes, including raping Abigail in that mental incapacity. Abigail also did have a chance to make it clear she was NOT consenting to sex when she emerged for a few minutes in her lucid mind, and realized what was about to happen. She screamed for help to get away, but he held her physically, and manipulated her fragile mind again to bring the alter back out so he could feel he had consent for sex. He just ignored Abigail's objection and NON-consent to sex and raped Abby's body anyway.

                *Abby willingly confessed to the police when she realized she did kill Andre by accident, and when she realized all her alters had done, including hitting Kate, Vivian, Marlena over the head and sealing them in the dungeon room, all while the alter "Gabby" was out and in charge.(Abby had no knowledge that her alter did any of that) It was portrayed and explained, it was accidental and self-defense in killing Andre, and Chad made the DA see that trying a mentally ill woman that accidentally killed in self-defense wouldn't do any good. So the DA concurred and Abby left town for intense therapy. Yes, they should have shown it more in depth, and it should have been longer, but poor writing presented itself once again and it wasn't given the depth it should have been.

                *The real Gabi was set up by Stefan(He actually hid the evidence in Ari's bag or he had someone do it) Abby nor the alters did that. Also, yes, Dr. Laura too, by lying on the stand saying Gabi confessed to the killing (Again Abby had no knowledge or control of the alter Dr. Laura)

                *Gabi was beaten up in jail because she had previously, months ago, interfered in a police investigation, she was warned to stay away from, that exposed Raines' crimes, to where he kidnapped Gabi, again because she put herself into a situation she was warned to stay away from. Gabi Getting Raines exposed, pissed off Raines' girlfriend who was already in jail, and that's what led to Gabi being beaten.

                *Gabi was told by Kayla her chances for another child in the future COULD BE compromised. Kayla NEVER said, she can't for sure and Gabi hasn't even tried to find a second or third opinion. She is just taking Kayla's vague diagnosis as a death sentence to her fertility, because it supports her "woe is me" act.
                Excellent breakdown. I love the woe is me at the end.

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                • #14
                  Originally posted by tiff5555 View Post
                  Beca Drags You know Abby didn’t kill Andre in self defense. She was sane and didn't thought the lid can actually kill him. Plus she blamed it on Gabi's pic in GabiChic room. That was too, sane. And yes, Stefan did tried to help Abby, but Gabigail did not wanted him too. After that, Gabigail liked him and pursued him. That is how they ended up making love or having sex. In reality, it was a rape from Abby's side. The story is two sided...and people sees things differently, relate or what.
                  tiff5555 Please don't tell me that Abby didn't kill Andre in self-defense! That was the ABSOLUTE basis of her accidentally killing him. IT WAS SELF-DEFENSE!! That's what was portrayed and explained, ON SCREEN! If you don't want to believe it, fine, whatever....., but it's my right to believe what was shown and what the writing most definitely was portraying, and I based my opinion on that.

                  When Abby found herself in the Gabi Chic office, that's when her mind was literally breaking/splintering so, NO, she WAS NOT SANE then!

                  NO, Stefan did NOT try to help Abby. Please go by what played out on screen, and stop thinking of Stefan as some great hero, because HE IS NOT!!! He's the very definition of a sick predator and used Abby's illness against her. He never once told Chad, JJ, Jennifer, NO ONE that Abby was sick! He NEVER attempted to get her help!!!

                  The alter "Gabby" could not have stopped him if he was a shred of a good person. He could have gotten help for Abigail immediately, but he didn't even try! The thinking that "Gabby" pursued him, and that's what stopped him from getting Abby help, is just rubbish, because SHE IS NOT REAL and Stefan knew that! Even Marlena told him that, but he ignored it for his own selfish purposes. Stefan had the upper hand there the whole time. He knew he was dealing with a sick Abigail, but he kept choosing to ignore that and treated "Gabby" as if she was real and making her believe she could live her own life outside Abigail. We know that was NOT POSSIBLE! "Gabby" could not live outside Abby, it wasn't possible, but Stefan ignored that and kept making this alter believe that. Abby got worse because of Stefan's selfishness and lack of attempt to get Abigail help. This whole mess was made worse BECAUSE OF STEFAN!!!!!

                  He saw an opportunity to use her mental illness for his own selfish purposes, and he took it. There's nothing "two-sided" about this. Abby was sick and Stefan used her in her mental incapacity to find ways to stick it to Chad by forming his twisted version of "love" with Abby's alter, and then he also raped Abigail's body in her mental incapacity. Those are the facts that played out on screen, and that's what I base my opinion on!

                  Originally posted by lovelydtc View Post

                  Excellent breakdown. I love the woe is me at the end.
                  Thank you! That seems to be Gabi's shtick these days, "Oh poor me...oh woe is me"!

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                  • ALoyalSoapFan
                    ALoyalSoapFan commented
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                    "Oh poor me...oh woe is me"
                    Actually, although, I didn't patent those words, that's what I've been saying about Abby & Chad for eons including recently but nice try LOL

                • #15
                  Abby never killed Andre in self defense. Her life was not threatened by him. He pleaded to her. She stand there boldly, saying no. And found a opportunity to get away. She shouldn't have been a big guy to be a hero...now with her not serving the consequences, the justice department failed us

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