Am I seriously suppose to feel sorry for Ann?

[AgnesL]

She shot someone in cold blood. Ann deserves to go to prison.

All this woman does is run around with her shotgun and point it at people. It was bound to catch up with her. She's a major twit.

[shellyinphx]

Well I do feel sorry for her. Her husband kidnapped her child and stood by while she was essentially tortured for years and years. No it wasn't up to her to dole out justice but this is Dallas, no one does justice the right way. If it did the man wouldn't have gotten away with stealing her child.

[bmf1776]

^^^I'm pretty sure Ann did Justice the right way IMO. In fact, the only place she went wrong was by not killing him.

[July Baby]

She shot someone in cold blood. Ann deserves to go to prison.

All this woman does is run around with her shotgun and point it at people. It was bound to catch up with her. She's a major twit.

I understand what you're saying, but I do feel sorry for Ann. She was in an abusive marriage with excessive interference from a deranged mother-in-law, suffered from depression, was drugged to keep her from divorcing her husband, had her baby ripped from her and was tormented by that kidnapping for 20 years, while her ex-husband watched her suffer and enjoyed it. Then, when she finally finds her daughter, the young lady doesn't want anything to do with her because she's been brainwashed against her mother all these years by her father and grandmother. And, to top it off, the police say there's nothing that can be done legally to Harris for this atrocity. I'm not saying she did the "right" thing by shooting him, but I think it's totally understandable. JMHO.

[liquidice]

^^^I'm pretty sure Ann did Justice the right way IMO. In fact, the only place she went wrong was by not killing him.

EXACTLY! Especially being that right before the shooting, Harris was gloating in Ann's face about all the moment's of Emma's life that she missed thanks to him kidnapping their child as a baby--all the birthdays, first steps, first words, bedtime stories etc...That was beyond cruel! He deserved to get plugged right in the chest and I don't feel a bit sorry for him!

Ann did NOT deserve to have her child stolen from her and to suffer that torture for 20 years. Then to find out that the child's father is the one that took the kid, raised her, and spent the child's whole life brainwashing them with lies that you were an unfit drug-addicted parent who could've cared less. Then the child's father gloats about the suffering you went through for 2 decades wondering if your child was alive, who took her, and God forbid if he/she was being abused.

[Tulip209]

I understand what you're saying, but I do feel sorry for Ann. She was in an abusive marriage with excessive interference from a deranged mother-in-law, suffered from depression, was drugged to keep her from divorcing her husband, had her baby ripped from her and was tormented by that kidnapping for 20 years, while her ex-husband watched her suffer and enjoyed it. Then, when she finally finds her daughter, the young lady doesn't want anything to do with her because she's been brainwashed against her mother all these years by her father and grandmother. And, to top it off, the police say there's nothing that can be done legally to Harris for this atrocity. I'm not saying she did the "right" thing by shooting him, but I think it's totally understandable. JMHO.

-----------ITA with your post, July. Very well stated.

[GuidingLite]

I feel sorry for her as well....she obviously was abused and neglected, emotionally, by her husband, and his mother definitely is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.....I do like the 'cycle of abuse' that obviously was passed from mother to son with Ann relating that eventually Harris became as domineering as his mother was......it just goes to show that if you don't repair a cycle you repeat it.....

I'm intrigued to know more about Emma.....I think the only way Ann is going to get out of jail is blackmail of some form between the Ewings and Harris Ryland.....

[July Baby]

-----------ITA with your post, July. Very well stated.

Thanks, Tulip! There's only so much a person can take before he/she snaps, and Ann reached her limit with Harris.

[July Baby]

I feel sorry for her as well....she obviously was abused and neglected, emotionally, by her husband, and his mother definitely is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.....I do like the 'cycle of abuse' that obviously was passed from mother to son with Ann relating that eventually Harris became as domineering as his mother was......it just goes to show that if you don't repair a cycle you repeat it.....

I'm intrigued to know more about Emma.....I think the only way Ann is going to get out of jail is blackmail of some form between the Ewings and Harris Ryland.....

LOL - "A few sandwiches short of a picnic" - I had never heard that expression before and I love it!!! I was thinking the same thing about the cycle of abuse. I, too, want to know more about Emma - I find her an interesting character, and the actress is doing a good job with the role, IMO.

I also agree about the blackmail. As I stated in another thread, my theory is that JR will uncover or has uncovered info about the death of Judith's husband that will be very damning. We're all getting vibes of sheer craziness from Judith and I think she's psychotic enough and clever enough to have murdered her husband and made it appear a suicide. JR will either blackmail her and/or Harris with this info (giving her a great motive to kill him) or will give it to Bobby, who will do the honors. Harris will retract his statement that Ann shot him, and she will be released. This is all just my opinion and pure speculation on my part.

[Tulip209]

Thanks, Tulip! There's only so much a person can take before he/she snaps, and Ann reached her limit with Harris.

-------ITA July! Everyone does have a point of limitations, where they can take no more...luckily most never have to cross that path, but in a case such as Anne's yes, emotional and psycological abuse take their toll. Looking for her child for 20 years was a torture all in itself, not even regarding Harris as an abususive husband, and his abrasive mother haunting her life as well!! I hope the Anne SL moves in a happier direction for her charcter (and soon), and that Emma, her daughter, will follow her instincts that we see (her doubts and compassion forher mother) that is overruled by years of brainwashing by those who raised her, her father and grandmother. ....Kudos to the acrress who plays Emma, btw, for conveying those emotions without words!

[Tulip209]

I feel sorry for her as well....she obviously was abused and neglected, emotionally, by her husband, and his mother definitely is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.....I do like the 'cycle of abuse' that obviously was passed from mother to son with Ann relating that eventually Harris became as domineering as his mother was......it just goes to show that if you don't repair a cycle you repeat it.....I'm intrigued to know more about Emma.....I think the only way Ann is going to get out of jail is blackmail of some form between the Ewings and Harris Ryland.....

----------Very interesting post, GuidingLite. I'm looking forward to when Emma is ready to really learn Anne's side of the story, and believe her.

[QueenStephanie]

The only thing she did wrong was not shooting him in the head

[Fantastic58]

Ann is not one of my favorite characters, but let's face it--Harris has been begging to be gunned down by her for years. He has tormented that woman past her mental capacity. At least she didn't kill the son'b!tch. I see glimpses of vacillating emotions on her daughter's face from time to time (great acting on her part) and I believe sometime in the future Ann will get a chance to tell her side of the story and her daughter will listen.

[victor lord jr]

[QUOTE=QueenStephanie;17808931]The only thing she did wrong was not shooting him in the head[/
100 % I AGREE WITH THAT
[QUOTE=Fantastic58;17814622]Ann is not one of my favorite characters, but let's face it--Harris has been begging to be gunned down by her for years. He has tormented that woman past her mental capacity. At least she didn't kill the son'b!tch. I see glimpses of vacillating emotions on her daughter's face from time to time (great acting on her part) and I believe sometime in the future Ann will get a chance to tell her side of the story and her daughter will listen.
YEAH HES ALMOST COME OUT AND ASKED HER TO SHOOT HIM,THE WAY HE WAS BRINGING UP EVERYTRHING THAT SHES MISSED AND THE FACT SHE CAN NEVER GET IT BACK,I KEEP TELLING MY SELF HES WORST THAT JR.AND IM NOT SURE HOW THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED

[Fantastic58]

Ann is not one of my favorite characters, but let's face it--Harris has been begging to be gunned down by her for years. He has tormented that woman past her mental capacity. At least she didn't kill the son'b!tch. I see glimpses of vacillating emotions on her daughter's face from time to time (great acting on her part) and I believe sometime in the future Ann will get a chance to tell her side of the story and her daughter will listen.
YEAH HES ALMOST COME OUT AND ASKED HER TO SHOOT HIM,THE WAY HE WAS BRINGING UP EVERYTRHING THAT SHES MISSED AND THE FACT SHE CAN NEVER GET IT BACK,I KEEP TELLING MY SELF HES WORST THAT JR.AND IM NOT SURE HOW THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, victor lord!!! What you said, that's what did it/what finally made her snap--rubbing in her face all that she missed re: Emma. Plus tricking her into getting his confession tape back from Sue Ellen w/promises of reuniting her w/Emma. Harris is pure evil. I think he is a sociopath.

J.R. has pulled some mean shenanigans in his day, but at least he has a heart and a soul (in there somewhere, LOL) and can still be touched.

[July Baby]

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, victor lord!!! What you said, that's what did it/what finally made her snap--rubbing in her face all that she missed re: Emma. Plus tricking her into getting his confession tape back from Sue Ellen w/promises of reuniting her w/Emma. Harris is pure evil. I think he is a sociopath.

J.R. has pulled some mean shenanigans in his day, but at least he has a heart and a soul (in there somewhere, LOL) and can still be touched.

I agree about JR. I'd like to see more scenes between Harris and Emma. I'd like to see something rootable in his character. He can remain a villain, but even villains have soft spots if they are at all human.

[VixensVamp]

I like Ann, and I agree with what everyone else has said. I wished she had shot him right between the eyes.

[beard_rrp]

OP, do you also feel the same way about Harris, and his mother? They are also criminals.

[Tulip209]

You know, that's an intereting issue ^^^^^, and I just don't get it!! ....Since the judge knows that Harris and his mother (who he clearly felt distain for-both of them) had Emma while lying to Anne that they did not know she was alive and well-because they TOOK her!! Why is there not a legal issue regarding them keeping Emma from her mother, in the way that the did? That doesn't make sense to me. (but I'm not a lawyer, wonder if anyone knows what the legal aspects of a situation like this would be?)

[July Baby]

You know, that's an intereting issue ^^^^^, and I just don't get it!! ....Since the judge knows that Harris and his mother (who he clearly felt distain for-both of them) had Emma while lying to Anne that they did not know she was alive and well-because they TOOK her!! Why is there not a legal issue regarding them keeping Emma from her mother, in the way that the did? That doesn't make sense to me. (but I'm not a lawyer, wonder if anyone knows what the legal aspects of a situation like this would be?)

Hi Tulip - I'm not a lawyer either, but a few episodes ago the detective who looked into the kidnapping for Bobby said that since Harris was the child's father, it was not legally considered kidnapping, but rather custodial interference, for which the statute of imitations had expired. Therefore, nothing could be done legally to Harris. Ann overheard the detective saying this to Bobby and that's when she ran out of the house to Harris's place with a gun in her purse.

[victor lord jr]

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, victor lord!!! What you said, that's what did it/what finally made her snap--rubbing in her face all that she missed re: Emma. Plus tricking her into getting his confession tape back from sue ellen w/promises of reuniting her w/emma. Harris is pure evil. I think he is a sociopath.

J.r. Has pulled some mean shenanigans in his day, but at least he has a heart and a soul (in there somewhere, lol) and can still be touched.

like when suellen told callie jr has a good spot you just have to drill for it,but when you find it down let go of it.......

[victor lord jr]

i agree about jr. I'd like to see more scenes between harris and emma. I'd like to see something rootable in his character. He can remain a villain, but even villains have soft spots if they are at all human.

yeah but she has that look of dispare about her shes afraid of him and grandma too

[victor lord jr]

limit of statutes has run out,but they could sue harris and judith for pain and suffering which would lead to alot of money for all those years..................i loved when the judge to harris you arent the victum,if you took my kid i would have shot you too........

[victor lord jr]

hi tulip - i'm not a lawyer either, but a few episodes ago the detective who looked into the kidnapping for bobby said that since harris was the child's father, it was not legally considered kidnapping, but rather custodial interference, for which the statute of imitations had expired. Therefore, nothing could be done legally to harris. Ann overheard the detective saying this to bobby and that's when she ran out of the house to harris's place with a gun in her purse.

and thats why we call her pistol packing annie..................got to love her

[TeamBrenda]

I feel nothing for Ann because I just get into her character but I agree if I liked her character I would have shoot Harris between the eyes and then shot that crazy mother of his too!

[AgnesL]

You know, that's an intereting issue ^^^^^, and I just don't get it!! ....Since the judge knows that Harris and his mother (who he clearly felt distain for-both of them) had Emma while lying to Anne that they did not know she was alive and well-because they TOOK her!! Why is there not a legal issue regarding them keeping Emma from her mother, in the way that the did? That doesn't make sense to me. (but I'm not a lawyer, wonder if anyone knows what the legal aspects of a situation like this would be?)

First, it's not necessarily a crime because the child was still with one of its parents. Second, the statute of limitations ran out on this issue. They said this in the show. The lawyer told Bobby this. Ann overheard, and that's why she went and shot Harris.