Guess With Me... Who Kills JR? All Speculation and Spoiler FREE!

[July Baby]

Since Harris claims it was Bobby who shot him, one possibility is that Emma or Judith goes after Bobby out of revenge but shoots the wrong brother. It would be like a nod to what happened in the original series, when Bobby was shot and everyone thought the intended target was JR, when in fact it was Bobby. Now, people might logically assume the intended target was JR because he has so many enemies, but the intended target was actually Bobby and JR took a bullet for his little brother. Just one possibility out of many!

[TheBlackRose]

Is it plausible that someone goes to kill Cliff, but mistakenly kills JR instead? Their heads look similar from behind...

[GuidingLite]

I try to approach these things logically......with a 'who COULD HAVE dunnit' based upon their situation on the show, and how 'large' a character they are...the murderer is RARELY a major character....

So let's start with the major characters and potential as a killer:

1. Bobby Ewing - No way he would murder his own brother......
2. Anne Ewing - Potential.....she is a bit trigger happy....
3. John Ross - I don't think he would murder his father.....
4. Christopher - No....doesn't have it in him....
5. Elena Ramos - see above for Christopher
6. Drew Ramos - not unless he is the sacrificial lamb who finds out that J.R. was responsible for Drew's father's death......
7. Pamela Barnes - Paints her into too much of a corner as a character.....she's already rotten enough....
8. Harris Ryland - His beef seems to be with Bobby
9. Sue Ellen - Been there, done that in Season 11.....I don't think they'll do that again...
10. Emma Ryland - No.....if anything she'd shoot Anne at this point...

Minor characters:

1. Judith Ryland - Same as her son.....her beef is with Bobby and Anne.
2. Cliff Barnes - Could be.....he's not a major character at this point...the writers have made him a lot darker than he was historically....so maybe....
3. Lucy Ewing - Nah...if she'd not done it before...she wouldn't do it now....
4. Ray Krebbs - Again, doesn't have it in him to kill J.R.

Someone from the past?

There are several people from Dallas's/JR's past coming to his memorial........could it be one of them showed up a bit early and did him in?

1. Gary Ewing
2. Valene Ewing
3. Mandy Winger
4. Cally Harper

I think the most likely candidate out of anyone on this list is Drew Ramos....as part of his backstory with the death of his/Elena's father....

[victor lord jr]

this is just in my mind
i think anyone from the harris clan,bobby asked for his help and if they find out it would make them want to get jr too.
1.momma brown aka pistol packing
2.pamela rebecca well if jr mess with her and john ross.
Ones ive passed on was
1.emma
2.annie
3.cliff to obvious

[midwestdj]

I'm still going with Judith. Just a gut instinct.

[skc21]

Hi new to the board been reading for long time I think it is going to be someone that works for the guy that had Marta del Sol killed. They feel JR screwed them on the oil deal. That way in the end it isn't a Barnes that did it but everyone will think they did.

[midwestdj]

Hi new to the board been reading for long time I think it is going to be someone that works for the guy that had Marta del Sol killed. They feel JR screwed them on the oil deal. That way in the end it isn't a Barnes that did it but everyone will think they did.

Very good guess skc21, Vicente would be a good candidate as well!

Welcome to SOC and to our Dallas board. I look forward to posting with you!

[July Baby]

Hi new to the board been reading for long time I think it is going to be someone that works for the guy that had Marta del Sol killed. They feel JR screwed them on the oil deal. That way in the end it isn't a Barnes that did it but everyone will think they did.

Hi skc21 - Welcome! I think you could be right. I was also thinking Vicente Cano could be behind it. As I've said in other threads, he vowed to get revenge on the Ewings as he was being hauled off in handcuffs last season. I didn't think we had seen the last of him or his organization. I'd imagine he has his "people" still working for him on the outside. And I think you're right in saying that he blames JR for losing the deal and being ratted out. As I have said previously in this thread, I'd like it to be an outsider because that way most likely the whole Ewing family will close ranks and be united until the murderer is brought to justice. It would be a refreshing change to see Christopher and John Ross on the same side and working together, even if only for a while.

[PinkDiamond]

I am drawing a blank on Kristen Shepard...is she still alive somewhere...or is she dead? Please help me remember what happened to her...because I was thinking...since she was the one that shot JR & failed the last time...she could be the one to return & finish the job this time

[victor lord jr]

I am drawing a blank on Kristen Shepard...is she still alive somewhere...or is she dead? Please help me remember what happened to her...because I was thinking...since she was the one that shot JR & failed the last time...she could be the one to return & finish the job this time

kristen left dallas and had a baby chris,and she ended up coming back to get money from jr or suellen and ended up dead in the southfork pool,cliff found her and he blamed jr for doing it and jr blamed cliff for doing it, season 5

[AgnesL]

I don't think JR should be murdered. The focus is all wrong in such a scenario. And again it's about flashiness and plots and just nastiness. That's what TNT Dallas boils down to.

If they had just let JR die from natural causes, then the focus could have been more on the family and each person dealing with the grief and memories. They could have created a heart-warming memorial episode with flashbacks from the original Dallas.

Instead, they have chosen the cheap way with the cheap ideas that altogether characterize Cidre's approach.

[TheBlackRose]

I don't think JR should be murdered. The focus is all wrong in such a scenario. And again it's about flashiness and plots and just nastiness. That's what TNT Dallas boils down to.

If they had just let JR die from natural causes, then the focus could have been more on the family and each person dealing with the grief and memories. They could have created a heart-warming memorial episode with flashbacks from the original Dallas.

Instead, they have chosen the cheap way with the cheap ideas that altogether characterize Cidre's approach.

Letting JR die of natural causes would have been such an insult to the character. JR has done some extremely dirty deeds over the years - it's only right that things come full circle.

[PinkDiamond]

kristen left dallas and had a baby chris,and she ended up coming back to get money from jr or suellen and ended up dead in the southfork pool,cliff found her and he blamed jr for doing it and jr blamed cliff for doing it, season 5

Thanks Victor...I was thinking she most likely was gone for good & came to some grisly end...but the for the life of me I could not remember...now that you refreshed my memory...it is slowly coming back to me now...but still can't remember who was responsible... or did she just fall in the pool & drowned herself

[PinkDiamond]

Letting JR die of natural causes would have been such an insult to the character. JR has done some extremely dirty deeds over the years - it's only right that things come full circle.

I also agree with this...the JR character has to go out with a BIG BANG...any normal death just would never be acceptable

[victor lord jr]

Thanks Victor...I was thinking she most likely was gone for good & came to some grisly end...but the for the life of me I could not remember...now that you refreshed my memory...it is slowly coming back to me now...but still can't remember who was responsible... or did she just fall in the pool & drowned herself

we never really did find out what happened she was on drugs angel dust and they think she tried flying or something like that because of the drugs in her system at the time of death....

[PinkDiamond]

we never really did find out what happened she was on drugs angel dust and they think she tried flying or something like that because of the drugs in her system at the time of death....

Yes...now I remember her addiction to drugs...and she really did fly off the deep end (of the pool you could say)...also just think how different Christopher's life would have been if he grew up with her as his mother...I wonder if he realizes just how lucky he is

[July Baby]

Thanks Victor...I was thinking she most likely was gone for good & came to some grisly end...but the for the life of me I could not remember...now that you refreshed my memory...it is slowly coming back to me now...but still can't remember who was responsible... or did she just fall in the pool & drowned herself

IIRC, as Cliff drove up to the Ewings' house, we saw a body floating in the pool and JR standing on the balcony (outside his bedroom, I believe) looking down at her. Cliff jumped into the pool to try to save her, looked up and saw JR standing there, and exclaimed, "You bastard!" That's how season 4 ended. In the following season opener, we learned it was Kristin in the pool, but JR denied pushing her. I think he said she was as high as a kite. I tend to believe him because murder was not his usual m.o.

[July Baby]

I don't think JR should be murdered. The focus is all wrong in such a scenario. And again it's about flashiness and plots and just nastiness. That's what TNT Dallas boils down to.

If they had just let JR die from natural causes, then the focus could have been more on the family and each person dealing with the grief and memories. They could have created a heart-warming memorial episode with flashbacks from the original Dallas.

Instead, they have chosen the cheap way with the cheap ideas that altogether characterize Cidre's approach.

Letting JR die of natural causes would have been such an insult to the character. JR has done some extremely dirty deeds over the years - it's only right that things come full circle.

I also agree with this...the JR character has to go out with a BIG BANG...any normal death just would never be acceptable

AgnesL, I understand completely what you are saying about the flashiness and plots. I agree with you that there's too much of this in the new series, and unfortunately, the number of deaths and shootings we've already seen would probably make JR's demise by the bullet less spectacular. However, as a nod to the history of the show and the tremendous popularity and notoriety of the original "Who Shot JR?" s/l, I agree with TheBlackRose and PinkDiamond that JR should go out with a bang. I'd love the irony if, instead of being "punished" for his evil deeds by one of the many enemies he's made over the years, he's murdered as a result of doing something good this time, such as helping Bobby uncover info about Harris and Judith that would help set Ann free. This is just speculation - If JR finds out that Judith killed her husband and blackmails her and Harris with this info, I can see Judith shooting JR w/o giving it a second thought. They can still have a heart-warming memorial episode with flashbacks from the original, and I hope they do. The way he dies should not affect that, IMO. Also, maybe the shooting would cause the Ewings to close ranks until the murderer is brought to justice. As I've said previously, it would be nice to see John Ross, Christopher and all the other Ewings and friends working together against a common enemy. It would be a refreshing change. JMHO.

[AgnesL]

AgnesL, I understand completely what you are saying about the flashiness and plots. I agree with you that there's too much of this in the new series, and unfortunately, the number of deaths and shootings we've already seen would probably make JR's demise by the bullet less spectacular. However, as a nod to the history of the show and the tremendous popularity and notoriety of the original "Who Shot JR?" s/l, I agree with TheBlackRose and PinkDiamond that JR should go out with a bang. I'd love the irony if, instead of being "punished" for his evil deeds by one of the many enemies he's made over the years, he's murdered as a result of doing something good this time, such as helping Bobby uncover info about Harris and Judith that would help set Ann free. This is just speculation - If JR finds out that Judith killed her husband and blackmails her and Harris with this info, I can see Judith shooting JR w/o giving it a second thought. They can still have a heart-warming memorial episode with flashbacks from the original, and I hope they do. The way he dies should not affect that, IMO. Also, maybe the shooting would cause the Ewings to close ranks until the murderer is brought to justice. As I've said previously, it would be nice to see John Ross, Christopher and all the other Ewings and friends working together against a common enemy. It would be a refreshing change. JMHO.

I heard that last week was the last of Larry Hagman's scenes. There is just a very little of him left to watch - a clip that was edited out and will now be put back in - I guess in the next or the following episode.

[midwestdj]

I can't even imagine JR just dying natural causes, that would be a slap in the face of the original run.

I think a "Who Shot JR? Part 2" is really the only way to end JR Ewing. I do like the idea of JR doing something good for Bobby, John Ross or Sue Ellen and being taken out because of him doing a good deed for someone he loves.

[PinkDiamond]

I don't know how I feel about JR being killed by a character we just met & really has no history with him...like a Judith or a Ryland or an Emma...it just would not have much impact...I would prefer it to be a good old revenge killing by somone who JR has tormented & made miserable for years...so with the announcement that Pam would be returning...I can't think of a more fitting person then a "Barnes" to be the one to confront JR look him in the eye and watch him sweat with the knowledge that this time he is really going to die...and that it will a "Barnes" who will finally beat him... by ending his life

[midwestdj]

Just a thought... What if it was Frank? Cliff somehow saved him from dying and that's why JR looked freaked out when the person came into the room....

[July Baby]

Just a thought... What if it was Frank? Cliff somehow saved him from dying and that's why JR looked freaked out when the person came into the room....

LOL, midwest! Great minds think alike! I posted the same thing in two other threads today! After seeing last night's episode, I think it's very possible that victor's theory came true - that Frank did not really die. And he would have an excellent motive because he blames JR for convincing him to betray Cliff, his "father". That would also explain why JR looked as though he'd seen a ghost right before he was shot. It would make sense in terms of history that Cliff Barnes, although not pulling the trigger himself, is indirectly responsible for JR's death.

[kayless]

No, I got it. Its his masterpiece! JR arranged his own murder and set up Ryland to take the fall. I think they had something else in mind for this Masterpiece involving Ryland but since Hagman passed away IRL they are using this instead.

[July Baby]

No, I got it. Its his masterpiece! JR arranged his own murder and set up Ryland to take the fall. I think they had something else in mind for this Masterpiece involving Ryland but since Hagman passed away IRL they are using this instead.

You could be right because when JR agreed to help Bobby with Ryland a few episodes ago, he said it would be his "masterpiece." Maybe he found out he was dying of some terminal disease and figured this way he could help his family.