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seagreen
09-26-2011, 01:33 PM
I am a little confused: can someone refresh my memory . . . why did they cover up the death of Gabby's stepfather? Wasn't it self-defense? He was in the house illegally, he was threatening Gabby, and Carlos acted to protect her. What am I missing? Now it is a HUGE mess.
And 'the secret' is causing major stress on those involved. Plus you gotta' know that it will not remain a secret............

dmoss
09-26-2011, 03:41 PM
Well, he told Gaby he had a gun, and kept his hand in his coat to make her think he was going to pull it out. Then they tried to find the gun on him, and there wasn't one...so, what they would have on their hands would be...heck, I'm not sure. Maybe involuntary manslaughter? He broke into their home, but didn't have a weapon...when he approached Gaby, as if to attack, Carlos was just protecting her, like you said...who knows!!

Prairedog
09-26-2011, 08:58 PM
I bet if they hired a lawyer they could get out of it easily simply by telling the truth

kaylay123
09-26-2011, 10:41 PM
They are all screwed for now!

databasschic
09-29-2011, 11:24 PM
I think involuntary manslaughter, but given the situation, I doubt he would actually be indicted.

If they come clean now, they are screwed because there are WAY more charges.

Y_Tatsu
10-02-2011, 10:54 PM
If they would have told the truth from the very beginning, there would be nothing to worry about. Carlos was only protecting his wife from an intruder who was in his home and threatening his wife. Carlos did not commit any crime when he was protecting Gaby. But since he and the girls did their cover-up thing, they have all committed a bunch of serious crimes. They are all guilty now. And for what? There was nothing to hide. Nobody did anything wrong. But now they are all majorly screwed. They covered up, they lied, they broke the law. They are all idiots IMO.

July Baby
10-02-2011, 11:12 PM
If they would have told the truth from the very beginning, there would be nothing to worry about. Carlos was only protecting his wife from an intruder who was in his home and threatening his wife. Carlos did not commit any crime when he was protecting Gaby. But since he and the girls did their cover-up thing, they have all committed a bunch of serious crimes. They are all guilty now. And for what? There was nothing to hide. Nobody did anything wrong. But now they are all majorly screwed. They covered up, they lied, they broke the law. They are all idiots IMO.

I agree!!!! This is a silly plot IMO.

hatshepsut
10-03-2011, 01:16 PM
gabby's step father used to abuse her when she was younger

he came back to town to probably finisih it, and carlos killed him.

they covered it up, which carlos and susan felt guilty about.

Cheryl M
10-04-2011, 09:30 AM
This plot is driving me crazy too, because I can't believe any of these characters would have been stupid enough to go along with the plot instead of doing the right thing from the start. They're too old not to have learned how much worse you make things by trying to cover them up, or to realize the very serious consequences they will face (or would in the real world) once it does unravel - not only for themselves but for their families. I can't stand watching grown-ups behave like five year olds.

ATWT and GL Fan
10-05-2011, 05:27 PM
1. Carlos is a former criminal
2. He would be charged with murder
3. It makes GOOD TV

leehaven24
10-05-2011, 07:03 PM
Yes, I think since Carlos has a police record, they were too afraid to believe he'd get off with a slap on the wrist, hence the big Coverup....

HoosierGirl
10-05-2011, 10:38 PM
Yup with Carlo's police record he wouldn't have stood a chance... Gabby never reported it as a child so it would have been here say... He's not alive to deny it... I keep having this erry feeling he's not dead...

anotheroldfan
10-10-2011, 08:07 AM
I was glad Susan finally told Mike. I think she should have told him from the beginning since keeping the secret was so hard on her. Mike has a pretty tough past. Didn't he kill someone himself? I expect and hope he will understand what Carlos & the housewives did and forgive Susan for keeping the secret. the detective - didn't see that explosion coming. He was very creepy!

seagreen
10-10-2011, 03:15 PM
Yup with Carlo's police record he wouldn't have stood a chance... Gabby never reported it as a child so it would have been here say... He's not alive to deny it......
I'm not sure about that; Carlos was convicted of a 'white-collar' crime -- wasn't it tax invasion or company fraud or some such thing? Hardly anything close to murder. Plus the guy broke into their house . . . Gabby's therapist knew about the abuse. I think they would have had more than a fighting chance if they had just called the police. Dumb sl imo.
Also, didn't Gabby and Carlos kill her former fiance on his boat a few seasons ago? The guy that was running for governor? Carlos didn't seem to feel any guilt about that death.

ATWT and GL Fan
10-10-2011, 08:47 PM
Yup with Carlo's police record he wouldn't have stood a chance... Gabby never reported it as a child so it would have been here say... He's not alive to deny it... I keep having this erry feeling he's not dead... Gabby told a nun at her school and so they could call her.


I'm not sure about that; Carlos was convicted of a 'white-collar' crime -- wasn't it tax invasion or company fraud or some such thing? Hardly anything close to murder. Plus the guy broke into their house . . . Gabby's therapist knew about the abuse. I think they would have had more than a fighting chance if they had just called the police. Dumb sl imo.
Also, didn't Gabby and Carlos kill her former fiance on his boat a few seasons ago? The guy that was running for governor? Carlos didn't seem to feel any guilt about that death. A crim is a crime and going to prision is going to prision. Having a rerods you are more likely to supect number 1.

seagreen
10-10-2011, 09:21 PM
^^Still don't really see the logic of Carlo's behaviour. . . if he had come clean from the start, the evidence would have most likely reflected exactly what it was - self defense. Now the cover-up will only make it him look guilty PLUS he has the involvement of all the other housewives who aided and abetted him. Way way worse now.

ATWT and GL Fan
10-10-2011, 10:56 PM
^^^ What evidence??? There was no gun. Carlson hit him over the head. Everyone though the dude was dead. He most likely would have been arrested.

anotheroldfan
10-17-2011, 10:10 AM
I still think a good lawyer plus the facts of the situation would have kept Carlos from being convicted of anything. He came home, found a man looming over his clearly terrified wife, and reacted to the threat. Most people can understand that situation and why he picked up the closest thing at hand and whacked the guy.

Y_Tatsu
11-08-2011, 05:24 AM
Also, didn't Gabby and Carlos kill her former fiance on his boat a few seasons ago? The guy that was running for governor? Carlos didn't seem to feel any guilt about that death. Gabby and Carlos did not kill that governor guy. The governor survived the boat accident. He washed up on shore. After recovering in the hospital, he confronted Carlos on Wisteria Lane during that tornado. He and Carlos argued about Gabby's infidelity. The strong winds broke part of a fence that hit the governor in the head. That's how he died. And Carlos lost his sight when he was also hit in the head with flying debris.

GuidingLite
11-08-2011, 11:34 AM
Didn't the flying fence piece impale Victor?

Anyway...I like this season's 'secret'....both because it involves all the major players and because it harkens back to season 1 and MaryAlice's secret......;0)

esthermiguel
11-10-2011, 02:09 PM
I think this is a terrible story to end the series with.

seagreen
11-10-2011, 06:17 PM
Gabby and Carlos did not kill that governor guy. The governor survived the boat accident. He washed up on shore. After recovering in the hospital, he confronted Carlos on Wisteria Lane during that tornado. He and Carlos argued about Gabby's infidelity. The strong winds broke part of a fence that hit the governor in the head. That's how he died. And Carlos lost his sight when he was also hit in the head with flying debris.
Oh I had completely forgotten that!!!! Thanks for setting me straight!:)


Didn't the flying fence piece impale Victor?

Anyway...I like this season's 'secret'....both because it involves all the major players and because it harkens back to season 1 and Mary Alice's secret......;0)
Ugh, yes the impalement!!! Hmmm, I get your point ... it is kind of neat having all the housewives mired in the same sl that has connection with the first episode of season one.

shenbrat
11-24-2011, 08:47 AM
I would think Carlos would have most likely been arrested and stood trial. I'd imagine he most likely could convince at least 1 juror of what the truth was (to get a hung jury), but I suppose there was always the risk of a conviction.

seagreen
11-24-2011, 02:20 PM
^^I think he would have had a MUCH greater chance of being acquitted (self-defense from an intruder) then he will surely have now if he gets caught PLUS now all the others will be implicated as aiding and abetting. They have made things so much worse now.

anotheroldfan
11-24-2011, 04:24 PM
Things don't just seem worse, they are much worse because they've all committed more crimes. Concealing a death, tampering with evidence, lying about it ... I think Carlos wouldn't even have been charged in the actual event. He found an intruder in his home, menacing his wife, and he hit him to stop him from hurting his wife. I'm not seeing the crime there.