Upcoming storyline SPUMOR (romantic)

[observertwo]

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I read that Sharon and Adam fall in love. I know that it's not much of a surprise. It's definitely something to look forward to!

[fashionista]

I'd love to read that tidbit because I have HEARD that one falls, but not the other! ;)

[smaverick1]

Confirmation that both of them fall for the other would be a surprise.

Especially if the feelings are genuine and not just all about Nick. :]

[JaiJai]

I agree Fashionista, I believe the story isn't as simple as they both fall in love with each other. I think there's a twist in there and I do think we're looking at a case of unrequited love. So I wouldn't rule Billy out just yet.

[sexibeach]

of course not b/c sharon's only has love for nick.. and all i've read is that he goes after sharon just to mess with Nick on purpose.. that's was his sole purpose, just like he did with ashley.. he will be the one that falls in love, alone.. :] then i'm quite sure this is where the story gets twisted when Adam is trying to kill sharon and nick.. b/c he can't have her..

[observertwo]

Either Sharon falls in love with Adam, or they fall in love with each other. The hug was just the beginning. Sharon/Billy was just physical and was over quickly. Sharon/Adam is developing very slowly.

[Emmeline]

Thanks for the spoiler! :D Should be interesting to watch.

[gmruss4]

I sure don't look forward to it given that he stole her baby. That is just sick.

[ivyserpent]

I don't think Sharon will fall in love with Adam. I see Adam falling for Sharon and trying to get with her. Sharon loves and will always love Nick. Once that flippen baby is back where she belongs Nick and Sharon will probably reunite. I just want the baby back, this is ridiculous!

[observertwo]

Sharon falling in love makes sense: she falls in love easily. Adam is more complex. Adam is hanging around Sharon because he feels guilt about what he did, although he could end up having feelings for Sharon.

They wouldn't go to the trouble of showing Adam and Sharon getting to know each other... then hugging, with Sharon looking surprised by feelings she didn't even know she had. They won't go back to just visiting with each other in Sharon's living room. I think when Adam gets back from vacation, they will kiss each other!

[sexibeach]

SOD says different only refers to them as friends;

Nick visits Sharon and confronts her about her relationship with Adam. Explains Morrow, "Nick doesn't have a choice. He can't just let it go. If he doesn't tell Sharon point blank that Adam is evil, he wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Nick tends to worry about Sharon too much. He can't help it. He still has very strong feelings for this woman." As Nick warns Sharon to stay away from Adam, she reminds him that he's her ex-husband and he has no say in who she chooses to be friends with. Nick tells her that he understands she's a big girl who can make her own decisions, but if Adam hurts her, he'll be there for her.

As for Adam, Muhney explains "I think it's a surprise, even to him, that he's developed feelings for Sharon as a friend. It's kind of like the reverse of Stockholm syndrome, where the aggressor bonds with the prey. he almost wants to forget that he stole her baby. He wants to push that away because Sharon's the one person he feels he can be himself around."

Later in the week, Nick goes to see Adam. "Nick knows there's something more to this," insists Morrow. "Adam doesn't do anything without ulterior motives. The guy's a freakin' snake."

Rather bluntly, Nick tells Adam to stay away from Sharon. Adam fires back at him, telling Nick to focus on his marriage to Phyllis. Upset, Nick hits Adam with an unexpected twist.

"Nick tells Adam he's sending him on a business trip (lol). Nick genuinely needs Adam to do this, but there's also an underhanded reason for it: to get him away from Sharon. Obviously, Nick can't send Adam away forever, and Sharon is ultimately going to do what she wants to do. But this will give Sharon a breather. Nick's hoping she'll reassess things and realize a friendship with Adam isn't something she wants to pursue."

Morrow continues, "There's no way in hell Nick is just going to sit back and let Adam operate the way he does. Nick is going to do whatever he needs to do in order to keep Adam away from Sharon."

SOURCE - Thanks KennyFromDR

[observertwo]

A lot of what is in soap magazines is vague. On the cover of SID, the headlines are, "You won't Believe What Happens Next! Adam tells Sharon the truth! It Breaks His Heart! But the article just states that Adam and Sharon will grow closer, and the question is asked if Adam's conscience will get the better of him.

The article didn't reveal any information.

My sources were several unnamed message boards.

[Crazy4K9s]

I don't think Sharon will fall in love with Adam. I see Adam falling for Sharon and trying to get with her. Sharon loves and will always love Nick. Once that flippen baby is back where she belongs Nick and Sharon will probably reunite. I just want the baby back, this is ridiculous!


ICAM, IvySerpent! All I can say about Sharon/Adam is EWWWWWW!!!!!:[:[

[observertwo]

The article states, "He's drawn to her and wants to fix things. But how can you smother someone with enough kindness to make them forget they lost a child?" The article isn't about Rafe: the article is about the fact that Adam stole Sharon's baby. But the article didn't answer any questions.

[Y&Rdevotee]

^^So you took a little liberty in saying "Adam and Sharon fall in love"?:-? I wish it would happen too, but I won't say so for sure, until it does.:)

[observertwo]

Sometimes even with reputable sources, "facts" are sometimes only partly true.

[arual]

Sharon Case did an interview on tv a show called "That Morning Show" earlier this week...

there is a transcript available... the following is a quote from that segment...

"Now she doesn't know he stole her baby and these two meet and they just really fall in love."

if folks want to read the transcript... go to livedash.com and do a search for Sharon Case...

[Y&ROn&Off]

Didn't MM come on this board a few weeks ago and replied to a poster and said they'd stay friends? :-?

If this is true........YUCK! :-{:-{:-{:-{

[Kangaroo]

I love MM and Sharon Case together on screen and there is definite chemistry, BUT the problem is that Adam gave her baby to Ashley, so that would always cloud any potential love story. :-?

[californiagirlx]

Ugh I'm not happy about this. It's not just because I want Sharon to be with Nick, but I also don't like Adam and I thought Sharon was going to be on her own for awhile.

[genie2.0]

Sharon Case did an interview on tv a show called "That Morning Show" earlier this week...

there is a transcript available... the following is a quote from that segment...

"Now she doesn't know he stole her baby and these two meet and they just really fall in love."

if folks want to read the transcript... go to livedash.com and do a search for Sharon Case... I read that and I dont think that was a quote from Sharon case for 1 that is a huge spoiler and I dont think that actors are allowed to give out spoilers ,second that transcript was so weird because you dont know who was talking it sounded to me like it was someone asking asking a question or they were asking about about the s/l .Because that part that says ''they meet'' doesnt even make sense because they have already met .Nothing in those transcripts say sharon case said anything

[Kangaroo]

MM hinted on his Twitter page in reply to someone that Adam/Sharon will get more compelling - further confirmation of Observertwo's spoiler? ;)

[genie2.0]

^^ Since when does compelling lead to falling in love :rolleyes: And MM ALSO SAID IN THE SOAP MAGS that nick practically begs him to leave sharon alone and I Watched that episode and it didnt happen .

[Day 1]

she also goes on to say that adam is manipulating her,but she doesn't know it .The video is supposed to be up soon and should clear up how things were said.Love or not ,this won't last too long
MM just did an interview with nelson branco and said he really doesn't know where this will go,as they really don't know what's going to happen that far ahead.i think the writers don't either

[genie2.0]

^^ I read those transcripts and I didnt see any of that and like I said we dont even know who is talking, AND I thought MM said his feelings towards her were genuine so now he is manipulating her ?

[JaiJai]

^^^ That was a big spoiler to just let out, especially since it seems like they want to keep as much of the story under wraps as possible. Maybe "fall in love" is just an overexaggeration about how their friendship develops. I just don't see the benefit of Sharon falling in love with this man, especially when they negated her love for Brad and Jack, she couldn't find it in herself to love them, but she can fall in love with Adam? Makes no sense. Of course what am I thinking, this is all about plot and has nothing to do with the character, because Sharon would neve fall in love with Adam. Especially if what Jack did to Victor was her breaking point, it makes no sense for her to fall in love with his accomplice.

[observertwo]

Either SC or the person interviewing her made the following statement...

"Now she doesn't know he stole her baby and these two meet and they just really fall in love."

Maybe MM said that he really doesn't know where the storyline would go to avoid revealing spoilers.

[JaiJai]

"Now she doesn't know he stole her baby and these two meet and they just really fall in love."

This line doesn't make sense for SC to say because Adam and Sharon have known each other for well over a year. The didn't just meet, they met when Adam first came to town. So I don't know what to make of it, because it's just inaccurate. Obviously we're just going to have to see how things play out.

[Y&Rdevotee]

MM hinted on his Twitter page in reply to someone that Adam/Sharon will get more compelling - further confirmation of Observertwo's spoiler? ;)

He also said there would be "lots of sex"....:o Or is MM just a kidder?:-?>:}

[observertwo]

When MM wrote about "lots of sex," he was just kidding... and the comment didn't have anything to do with the show.

[Theresa_Fan]

I think Adam will fall in love but I don't think Sharon would fall in love with him and I hope not :D

[SadieLadie]

But he did say in an interview I just read that's there's much MUCH more stuff to come with Adam and Sharon.

If the writers do not develop their relationship (and I still think they will), they will be missing a big opportunity. Those two have so much chemistry. :x

[andryakat]

Oh please let this be true. Adam and Sharon falling in love would be awesome. I know that he stole her baby and I truly hope that he will find a way to reunite her with Faith. It's just I haven't seen either Adam or Sharon this free in awhile. Adam is always being judged and it seems that everyone else either thinks Sharon is a tramp or pities her, but not Adam when they are together they're just themselves.

I give credit to the writers for noticing this pairing, great job writers. :x

[Kangaroo]

He also said there would be "lots of sex"....:o Or is MM just a kidder?:-?>:}

He jokes around a lot, he's a funny guy!
But I wish he was right, because I think Adam and Sharon would set the bedroom on fire, literally! :]
I hope MM doesn't mind me saying this: he's got one of the best bodies on daytime!

[bkchic]

I think Adam will fall in love but I don't think Sharon would fall in love with him and I hope not :D
Me too. I see Adam unintentionally falling for her but Sharon won't return his feelings. Since he stole Phyllis's scrunchie when he was crushing on her he might take Sharon's panties :]:o Imagine if Nick found them :]

[observertwo]

After the hug, Sharon had a look on her face which said, "What just happened?" I think might have been wondering if she was falling in love.

[layla23]

Uh oh! I think I'm going to hurl. :-{

[hollywoodbetty]

Someone pointed out to me that the words "the two meet and fall in love" may actually mean Sharon and her baby. She and Faith have not truly been in contact yet, and when they do, maybe there will be an instant connection. Maybe that is something we are going to see soon. I haven't seen SC's actual interview, and sometimes things can be taken out of context. Anyway, I highly doubt we are going to see some insta love fest between Sham, and if we do, the writers truly are huffin' glue.

[observertwo]

That segment of the interview was about Sharon and Adam.

I'm looking forward to more than hugs between Adam and Sharon.

[Cranky101]

You know, I wouldn't even bother trying to voice my disgust anymore, all the stories on Y&R are strickly plot driven. The original personalities of the characters that were created by Bill Bell have died with him.

No matter what anybody says, I know they will go ahead with the romance because it makes for better drama when the baby switch is revealed. :rolleyes:

For a writer, they must be going nuts thinking about all the numerous possibilities this couple would bring and as a viewer, sometimes the writing drives you nuts.

[FutuerMrsFisher]

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I read that Sharon and Adam fall in love. I know that it's not much of a surprise. It's definitely something to look forward to!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO%(%( THAT is so sick and demented in so many ways adam is so pure evil now

[Weazy]

IDK, I still think this will be a case of unrequited love. Adam will fall but I don't see sharon having those feelings for him. As sick as it is considering we know what adam has done, I do get pleasure out of nick squirming.

[Suds55]

Oh please let this be true. Adam and Sharon falling in love would be awesome. I know that he stole her baby and I truly hope that he will find a way to reunite her with Faith. It's just I haven't seen either Adam or Sharon this free in awhile. Adam is always being judged and it seems that everyone else either thinks Sharon is a tramp or pities her, but not Adam when they are together they're just themselves.

I give credit to the writers for noticing this pairing, great job writers. :x

ITA!!! I'm loving Sharon and Adam's dynamic. The other men in Sharon's life always put her on this pedestal, and the people in Adam's life treat him like scum. And I don't think either fit into such black/white categories. And around eachother, they can just be themselves.

OF COURSE Adam has some ulterior motives going on, but I think they are ulterior and not primary. I think he does genuinely like Sharon.

And of course the baby switch is going to create a huge bump (or posssible end) to their relationship, but that's what would make a love story between these two so great. So much soapy potential.

It seems that some Sharon fans are getting the vapors over the idea of Sharon mixing it up with such a bady guy, while I think it makes her much more interesting.

And really people, if Adam and Sharon fall in love, she will hardly be the first soap heroine to have fallen in love with a man who has secretly done her wrong, including done her wrong by way of stealing her baby. Maybe some need the smelling salts, but I think its a good story.

As for bad boy falls for good girl that he did wrong being a predictable storyline--OF COURSE IT IS. It's a soap. There are not that many basic plotlines for soap stories, and if you are watching soaps for nventive plots you've picked the wrong genre. It's like going to a burger joint and complaining they don't have vegetarian food.

[Shan2133]

Yeah.....she said she's "seeing" Adam and they fall in love. Yuk, I'm repulsed by this.

[Stella B]

I kinda had the feeling that Sharon was going to be on her own for awhile? maybe a week is "awhile"?
Wouldn't mind a new love interest for Sharon and Adam would fit that bill except there is the little nagging baby stealing issue!

[JaiJai]

This is just useless drama just like everything else has been. This will go absolutely nowhere significant and just a twist in another anti-climactic s/l.

[Shan2133]

Well I'm glad I'm weening myself off because I personally have no desire to watch any of that.

[observertwo]

The transcript included all of the words of the interview, but not who said what. The interviewer might have made the comment about Adam and Sharon falling in love.

[JTRules1]

I sure don't look forward to it given that he stole her baby. That is just sick.

I agree...this whole situation makes me want to :-{:-{:-{

[carlybrooke]

so i guess sharon will fallinlove with adam because his last name is newman:-{but she could'nt love jack or brad,because these men hurt her so much:rolleyes:i love that she's falling for the man who stole her baby,can't wait until she hit the pavement again>:}

[Shan2133]

The transcript included all of the words of the interview, but not who said what. The interviewer might have made the comment about Adam and Sharon falling in love.
True, but the way the arrows went indicated who was talking....I'm going to go back to check.

Okay, it WAS the interviewer that said that they'd fall in love....NOT Sharon

[Popforbreakfast]

Did you watch it, Shan? I haven't had time yet.

[valleycliffe]

True, but the way the arrows went indicated who was talking....I'm going to go back to check.

Okay, it WAS the interviewer that said that they'd fall in love....NOT Sharon

thank gawd. :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Shan2133]

^^I read it and they have >> << arrows to show who was speaking. it was a good read.

[observertwo]

The interviewer must have jumped to the conclusion that Adam and Sharon fall in love.

When NB interviewed MM, NB asked about Adam and Sharon as a romantic couple. MM didn't comment on that possible storyline.

[pepper55]

Sharon says she wants to be by herself - but she knows that truthfully she can't. She's not strong enough to make her own way - she always has to have a man to lean on. I have trouble seeing a love relationship between Sharon and Adam - I mean why start a love thing between the two of them, when as soon as Sharon finds out what he did regarding her baby, it'll be a hate relationship. No explaining can change the fact that he stole her baby and gave it to Ashley. Oh yeah, because he killed Ashley and Victor's baby, but that makes it okay? I think not... Adam needs to go away... far far away.

[fashionista]

After the hug, Sharon had a look on her face which said, "What just happened?" I think might have been wondering if she was falling in love.
After that hug, she looked like anything but someone feeling the love!! /:-} Matter of fact, she looked a little disturbed by the awkwardness of the whole moment! It's obvious that tptb are testing the waters & will create some waves, but this can't go anywhere but smack into a brick wall!!

[Damberfan]

Woot Woot! All aboard the Shadam train! :D

[Y&ROn&Off]

True, but the way the arrows went indicated who was talking....I'm going to go back to check.

Okay, it WAS the interviewer that said that they'd fall in love....NOT Sharon

Thank you!

Good grief! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[JaiJai]

^^^ All the drama over a quote that never was! Too many things.

[Shan2133]

^^^ All the drama over a quote that never was! Too many things.


I'm so happy about it though....the only thing she said was that adam was manipulating her and she didn't know it....BUT before that he asks her to explain Sharon Collins Newman Abbott and how she got all the names and she explained and then said "but now she's divorced and single and seeing Adam Newman, Nick's, the love of her life's brother....then she goes on to talk about how great her and MM get along. She didn't say much about the storyline at all.!!! :clap:;) Seeing him does not = falling in love.

Okay.....now I'm just confused....and think I was reading the arrows incorrectly.....I think they are used when someone new starts speaking...and if that's the case then she DID say they fall in love......*sigh* I don't know lol


Yeah, she said it :[

[jcwalk]

I read some of that article in either cbs soaps or soap opera digest. Can't remember which (i was in line in the grocery store).:rolleyes: The article made it sound like Adam had intentionally set out to hook up with Sharon, to push Nicks buttons.:rolleyes: I'm cool with Adam & Sharon. I think Sharon will fall for Adam, i also think Adam will "unintentionaly" fall for Sharon too.B-)

[Karlie]

I don't want Sharon in a romantic relationship with Adam. She's been tortured and abused enough. Adam is a sicko and Sharon doesn't deserve to be manipulated and abused by the man that caused the death of one baby and stole hers! I think it's disgusting to put Sharon in a romantic involvement with Adam. Not entertaining at all and I will tune out from watching. It's just sick. :-{

[Karlie]

Yeah, the transcript of the "show" where SC supposedly reveals Adam and Sharon fall for each other is very suspect and unclear as to who was asking the questions and who exactly was answering, so I don't put a lot of confidence in that.

I can see Adam falling for Sharon, but it would make no sense for Sharon to fall for Adam, given what she does know about him - his involvment with the Diary to frame Victor and him using Rafe. If Sharon didn't truly fall for a guy like Brad, or even Jack, I don't believe she would have true love feelings for Adam. As a friend and close confident, yes, lover - no way! Plus the idea of Sharon in a romantic involvement is just repulsive. They don't need Sharon to be in love with Adam to drive the rivalry between Nick and Adam: their friendship is enough from what we've seen so far of Nick's reaction. TPTB know how much fans detest the idea of a romantic pairing with Adam and Sharon so I hope they've gotten the message and NOT go there.

[kaylay123]

Damn! This will be a storyline I don't look forward to watching.:(

[nikki1]

Not happy about this...............I hope if this happens..YUK!!!!......that Sharon finds out and she kills him right there on the spot...............

[elliemma]

TPTB know how much fans detest the idea of a romantic pairing with Adam and Sharon so I hope they've gotten the message and NOT go there.

Please speak for yourself.

Also, keep in mind that the storyline you are seeing today was decided upon months ago, written nearly 3 months ago and filmed 6 weeks ago. So your comments today have no effect on the current story.

[LadyPlantagenet]

Ahhhhhhhhhh I wish it was the previous actor and Sharon!!! :[ Either way, I'm glad it's going to get Nick all in a huff. :]

[Karlie]

Please speak for yourself.

Also, keep in mind that the storyline you are seeing today was decided upon months ago, written nearly 3 months ago and filmed 6 weeks ago. So your comments today have no effect on the current story.

I'm well aware of all of this. The point being that it was commented on in one of the Soap mags (SOW, I believe) that TPTB are aware of the viewer outrage at the whole Adam baby kidnapping storyline and most polls to date have shown many fans do not want an Adam and Sharon pairing.

Viewer feedback today can direct or REDIRECT a storyline in the future. It happens all the time. Nothing is in stone. ;)

[Y&RgayfanMn]

Adam will become the "hero" to Sharon....... He will get her baby back, blame everything on Dr. Taylor and come out smelling like a rose. Adam and Sharon will get married. Nick will spit his rocks when Adam,Sharon and baby Faith are a family.

[RestlessFan]

Ahhhhhhhhhh I wish it was the previous actor and Sharon!!! :[ Either way, I'm glad it's going to get Nick all in a huff. :]

Same here. I wish it was still Chris Engen's Adam, not this Adam. This MM's Adam acts like Jeffrey Dalmer and looks like it. He looks and acts like a killer who sneaks around and looks for prey, helplesss ones. But, I don't blame C.E. for leaving since the character of Adam has been ruined.

[observertwo]

Adam has done a lot of things that were wrong, but he doesn't look evil. That's why he's so believable as a businessman and as someone who needs love.

It's possible for any soap character to be redeemed.

[SadieLadie]

The interviewer must have jumped to the conclusion that Adam and Sharon fall in love.

When NB interviewed MM, NB asked about Adam and Sharon as a romantic couple. MM didn't comment on that possible storyline.

Michael never gives spoilers. He's very good about that. He talks about the depth of his character and what it all means, but he doesn't give away any storylines. That would be difficult to do. But, like everything else Michael does, he pulls it off beautifully. :clap:

[mickeyalbert]

WHAT?! What is so wrong with Nick and Sharon being together??? I don't understand! Adam is a little creepy jerk whom I totally sympathized with UNTIL he took Sharon's baby girl. Sharon had been through sooooo much, Cassie, Brad, JACK, and here this selfish and evil jerk comes to dig even a deeper hole for this woman. However, if they do...fall in love, GOD, it won't last long because somehow, SOME WAY, Sharon and Nick will discover the truth about "Faith Colleen Abbott Newman" unless Y&R crap around and switch it up to remove the blame from Adam somehow. Please don't Y&R because this man deserves what he will get AND please don't Sharon with Adam. GOD!!!

[Lady Winchester]

"Now she doesn't know he stole her baby and these two meet and they just really fall in love."

This line doesn't make sense for SC to say because Adam and Sharon have known each other for well over a year.

For your information, sometimes people fall in love after having known each other for many years. And this is actually a very common occurrence in real life. Not to mention that Sharon and Adam had never had any real interaction until just recently. They had exchanged a few niceties and pleasantries but nothing more. Now they've really taken the time to get to know each other and it would make sense that they eventually fall in love.

[Lady Winchester]

Adam will become the "hero" to Sharon....... He will get her baby back, blame everything on Dr. Taylor and come out smelling like a rose. Adam and Sharon will get married. Nick will spit his rocks when Adam,Sharon and baby Faith are a family.

Welcome to the fabulous world of Shadam! ;)

[bluzmama]

Boy do I hope you are wrong. I think it would be great for Adam to get Sharon's baby back thinking that she'll fall for him only to have her tell him "it's not you, it's me" or "I think of you only as a dear friend". I would love that moment.

[smaverick1]

Adam has done a lot of things that were wrong, but he doesn't look evil. That's why he's so believable as a businessman and as someone who needs love.
Most sociopaths can blend in. Look at Ted Bundy or Paul Bernardo. Doesn't make them any less evil.

[observertwo]

I printed out a copy of most of SC's interview. The arrows for what both SC and the interviewer said point in the same direction. There is a large space, (about the size of two lines of print), after each sentence. There only are arrows when a question is asked, or at the beginning of an answer.


It looks like it's SC who said, "Now she doesn't know he stole her baby and these two meet and they just really fall in love."

[MizzFan]

Yes Sc is the one who says that they fall in love. I think it is obvious tho. We don't need anyone confirming this. The writing is on the wall.

[sherlar]

OHHH NO!!! Someone please stop this before it happens!!!%(

[Rocketmom]

I sure don't look forward to it given that he stole her baby. That is just sick.
I totally agree. Not liking this at all. Won't watch if it develops. Too sick, disgusting depraved repulsive....any other horrible words to describe it?

[observertwo]

After Sharon and Adam hugged, I didn't think they would go back to just talking to each other. But, I was looking for some type of confirmation.

In one part of the transcript, there are five sentences in a row, including, "All my co-stars are, josh and peter. Michael and I have a lot in common." The arrows are just before the first of the five sentences. From the pattern of the arrows in the transcript, it looks as if SC is talking when the statement is made about Sharon and Adam falling in love.

[nannie42]

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I read that Sharon and Adam fall in love. I know that it's not much of a surprise. It's definitely something to look forward to!

Hell to the Nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.......:-{

[courtr]

Geez, Sharon goes through more men on this soap than anyone else. Guess the writers are using her to the fullest.

[observertwo]

Pairing up Sharon and Adam, which would include an angry, meddling Nick should be interesting. Sharon and Jack would be repetitive and predictable.

[jwinks]

I can't help but be entertained by the response to the speculation

I also can't help but notice that MM is logged in right now reading this forum and I suspect he is entertained as well

[valleycliffe]

Geez, Sharon goes through more men on this soap than anyone else. Guess the writers are using her to the fullest.

i agree :x
i'm sure no one minds being paired with the beautiful sweet sharon :x

ETA: mornin muhney

[Kangaroo]

I'd love some confirmation, but MM would be in trouble if he gave away any big spoilers. ;)
I'm sticking with my theory that Adam helps Sharon get her baby back by Christmas, but Dr Taylor wears the blame. :]

[BYHOPE1113]

Adam wouldn't know love if it hit him over the head#-o

[SadieLadie]

MM is very good about interacting with his fans, but he is very careful not to give away too much. We'll just have to wait and see, but I would like to think the spoiler is true. :x

He did tweet this, though: "From horse's mouth: Fact: Adam is NOT playing Sharon. He is being real with her at ALL times."

Michael: Hope you don't mind me repeating that but since Twitter is public, I figured it would be ok. :)

[JaiJai]

^^^ How is he not playing Sharon? He's denying her her child, it doesn't matter if he genuinely likes her or not, he's causing her great pain everyday he keeps Faith away from her. Their friendship is built on false pretenses and he smiles in her face, but continues to hurt her, he's manipulating her.

[SadieLadie]

^^^Like he said, "From the horses mouth." I'm just going to assume he knows more about his character than any of us do. So I'll take him at his word.

I would assume he means he's not playing her NOW. That how he feels about her (inside) and what he's showing her (on the outside) is very real. That's how I took it, anyway. :)

[Kangaroo]

He's going to fall in love with her, genuinely - that's my prediction!
And he'll feel so guilty about what he did that he'll give her back Faith. ;)

[valleycliffe]

well, i don't know how real he can be if he is not telling her he is responsible for her not being a mother to her child and ashley is. no one else is responsible for that, only adam. every day he is with sharon and not telling her, he is lying to her. a lie of ommission maybe, but a lie none the less. if sharon is falling for him or some such nonsense, she is doing so without knowing the whole truth. he is using her, he is abusing her by withholding her child. sharon does not need anymore creeps in her life....:[

[SadieLadie]

^^^Again, he didn't say he never hurt her. He didn't say he wasn't hurting her now by not telling her the truth. All he said was he's not playing her (meaning how he feels about her now), that it's real. I get that.

[JaiJai]

^^^ Exactly, their relationship can never be real, because he's not being real with her about what he did to her, Ashley, and Faith. It's all a lie. It doesn't matter if he genuinely feels anything towards Sharon, he's still lying to her so whatever she may feel towards him won't be real.

[Sudzy99]

I'm so exicited to see Shadam's relationship develop.

[Kangaroo]

Two bits from Muhney's Twitter Page:
1. You can't miss what's coming next(he'll be monitoring the boards for reaction).
2. Adam ISN'T playing Sharon, he's being completely genuine.

And MM loves this board, as we know! ;)

[valleycliffe]

^^^ Exactly, their relationship can never be real, because he's not being real with her about what he did to her, Ashley, and Faith. It's all a lie. It doesn't matter if he genuinely feels anything towards Sharon, he's still lying to her so whatever she may feel towards him won't be real.

i agree totally. it would all be based on a lie.

i hope she drop kicks him when she finds out :[

[SadieLadie]

Two bits from Muhney's Twitter Page:
1. You can't miss what's coming next(he'll be monitoring the boards for reaction).
2. Adam ISN'T playing Sharon, he's being completely genuine.

And MM loves this board, as we know! ;)

Yes, I just posted that from Twitter. Good luck with your responses to it. Mine went over like a athiest in church. :]

[Kangaroo]

He'd get into trouble if he revealed too much!
Believe me, if Adam & Sharon are going to get it on in a big way, Y&R will promote the hell out of it. :]

[observertwo]

To further clarify, when there were arrows just in front of the first of five sentences in one part of the interview, it obviously was SC who was talking. So, by the placement of those arrows, and of the arrows in the entire interview, it seemed as if SC said, "... these two meet and they just really fall in love." The next statement is, "And he is manipulating her, but she doesn't know it." There weren't any arrows in front of that sentence, so SC must have still been talking.

Of course one can never be completely sure of who said what in the interview.

SC also said that she gets along with Michael, and that chemistry is important off screen and on screen.

[Sudzy99]

I tweeted That Morning Show to ask if they would put the interview on their website and they said they would, but they sure are taking their sweet time.

[observertwo]

From SID, according to Scott Hamner...

"Not surprisingly, Adam will play dirty, going after Sharon in a game of seducton and revenge! Adam is very calculating in how he triangulates. On the one hand, he's going to be manipulating Sharon, and on the other, he's sticking it to Nick!"

SC said the same thing in her interview, that Adam is manipulating Sharon and she doesn't know it.

They really fall in love... yet Adam is manipulating her?

[Emmeline]

^^^I read that in SID too, and I also felt very confused by it's meaning afterward. It's really up in the air as to whether or not Adam's feelings for Sharon are genuine or a pure manipulation. But I suspect that's how the show wants it. It keeps us wondering and speculating, especially since they are writing Adam as a sort of on the edge character, meaning never really knowing where he's coming from.


So, as to whether or not they really fall in love, it's totally open to debate...and I supposed that is exactly how the show wants it.

[observertwo]

If Adam hasn't changed, than what was the purpose of the scene on the stairs?

[Muhney]

Not to be a contrarian with the info that's out there, but let me try and clear things up a little.

In all things involving Sharon there is a genuine concern, an in incredible guilt, an amazing amount of regret, but a complete sincerity through it all. All things "Sharon" are honest.

However, all things Nick, all things Jack, all things Phyllis, etc can be manipulated or played with when it comes to dealing with them and their perception of Adam and Sharon.

From the very start, when Adam sees/hears Sharon in Victor's hospital room everything gets turned on its side because the mother of Faith is no longer a nameless/faceless victim. Now it hits home for Adam that this is someone real who is hurting, and by all appearances, a really sweet & wonderful person who has kindness in her at the highest level, much like Hope did.

So yes, at times, with certain individuals, this friendship is being manipulated, but at other times, when directly involving Sharon, there is ultimate sincerity. It is, to me, one of the many things that makes Adam so intriguing. He is too grey. You can't quite peg him. He's unpredictable, even when he's predictable. There is always reason to watch him because the character is so nuanced and his words and actions are, at times, filled with double-meanings and his behavior can be paradoxical or enigmatic. And in that way I think Adam is closer to being a real person than most characters on tv, because most real-life people can't be categorized. That is what makes us all so wonderfully human.

[observertwo]

Michael,

Adam really feels guilt and is sincere about his friendship with Sharon... but Adam's friendship with Sharon just happens to be another way that Adam can get even with Nick... even though Adam's purpose in becoming Sharon's friend isn't to make Nick jealous.

Everything that the writer said in the magazine about Adam is negative, but SC did admit in the interview that Sharon and Adam fall in love.

[BreEMI]

UGH!

Sickening at best

IMO Adam doesn't know what love is, all he knows how to do is use people to benefit his own agenda

This evil twisted jerk has done more than enough to Sharon & many others in GC & as such, I say keep the loser away from Sharon. It's time he was found out, then we know Sharon's only feelings for him will be feelings of hatred, disgust, betrayal & incredible anger; as it should be

[observertwo]

I would like to give Adam the benefit of the doubt.

They wouldn't have MM put so much effort and energy into that stair scene, if Adam ended up exactly the way he was before. That doesn't make any sense.

[rjb]

Not to be contrarian with the info that's out there, but let me try and clear things up a little.

In all things involving Sharon there is a genuine concern, an in incredible guilt,
an amazing amount of regret, but a complete sincerity through it all. All things "Sharon" are honest.

However, all things Nick, all things Jack, all things Phyllis, etc can be manipulated or played with when it comes to dealing with them and their perception of Adam and Sharon.

From the very start, when Adam sees/hears Sharon in Victor's hospital room everything gets turned on it's side because the mother of Faith is no longer a nameless/faceless victim. Now it hits home for Adam that this is someone real who is hurting, and by all appearances, a really sweet & wonderful person who has kindness in her at the highest level, much like Hope did.

So yes, at times, with certain individuals, this friendship is being manipulated, but at other times, when directly involving Sharon, there is ultimate sincerity. It is, to me, one of the many things that makes Adam so intriguing. He is too grey. You can't quite peg him. He's unpredictable, even when he's predictable. There is always reason to watch him because the character is so nuanced and his words and actions are, at times, filled with double-meanings and his behavior can be paradoxical or enigmatic. And in that way I think Adam is closer to being a real person than most characters on tv, because most real-life people can't be categorized. That is what makes us all so wonderfully human.

Thank you, Michael (my son's name also :]) for that explanation of Adam.
It's exactly the way that I see him and I'm hoping that he can be redeemed to the point that his past can be forgiven him. I like that he is falling in love with Sharon, and she with him, because it's just so "soapy" that she should fall for someone who has done her so badly wrong. Think of all the angst.
I think that he will find a way for her to get Faith back, but have the blame fall fully onto Dr. Taylor, and not himself, but if the time does come that Sharon learns the truth, the fallout will be great to watch.

[SadieLadie]

Thank you, Michael, for clearing that up. That is exactly how your character has been coming across to me. I'm glad I was reading it the way it was intended. And I couldn't agree more that "real-life" people can't be categorized. I've been married 37 years and my hubby still doesn't know where I'm coming from. :]

Thanks for making Adam so enjoyable to watch. And the fact that you have so many viewers who feel negatively passionate about Adam, just tells me what a phenomenal job you're doing. Can't wait until you're back on screen.

[Kangaroo]

Michael Muhney: you're a true gem! :clap:
We should organise one day to have an official chat with you on this board, or a chat thread of some sort, because I know a lot of Y&R fans would love to blog with you!
You've whetted my appetite for much more Adam/Sharon, I'm so interested to see where this one goes! :clap:

[observertwo]

When Adam called the SEC, I thought that was predictable. When Adam spent time at Sharon's house, it seemed as if he was trying to find a way to deal with his guilt. That was predictable too because of Adam's new insights into his behavior and attitudes. But, an added benefit to a friendship with Sharon, is to make Nick angry.

[Kangaroo]

The added bonus is how it pushes Nick's buttons!
Gosh I want Nick taken down a few pegs! ;)

[observertwo]

I think it's easier to believe what seems logical. For example, when Adam was going blind when he was in prison, I assumed it was because of his inherited eye condition I never thought that Adam could be causing his own blindness.

When I saw Adam hugging Sharon, it looked like they were beginning to have feelings for each other. It's just easier to believe what I see... the writers could later on reveal how things are more complicated than they appear to be.

[Jazzworld]

Adam is so disgusting, I do not find him having chemistry with anyone. I hope Sharon does not fall in love with him and also hope Ashley will come to realize he is not her friend. If the Sharon/Adam coupling becomes a story, I will have to take a break from the show. It's already dragging out unintersting characters like this Ryder and Abby....yuk!

I really hope Sharon does not fall for him or continue to befriend him, he's rotten to the core. Not only is he Nick's brother, he stole her baby! He lied to everyone about Victor, he made himself blind, he sneaks around and sleeps with his attorney to get his way. He caused the housekeeper to loose her job, he caused Ashley to loose her baby, he kept Nikki's letters away from her worried family, and he had MaryJane pretend to be Sabrina. How can anyone have chemistry with this monster?>:}

[observertwo]

Any character on a soap opera could be redeemed. The writers like to have characters commit crimes and end up in prison. Then the writers slowly redeem the characters. That's a typical soap opera storyline. If all, or most, characters are solid members of GC's community, the show could be too boring.

[SadieLadie]

How can anyone have chemistry with this monster?>:}

Just watch Adam and Sharon together and you can see how. :x

[MissLateBloomer]

So Adam is sincere when it comes to Sharon. There is something different about him when he's with her...he kind of softens up. This will of course make it very fun to watch him wrestle with himself as he's with her, trying to figure out how to make her feel better and save his own skin at the same time. This promises to be entertaining.

[Holly99]

Lots of .. if not most .. psychopaths are sincere in their intentions & have a great capacity to engender trust ... but ... they always end up doing great harm to those they get involved with.

So .. sure .. TEAW is as sincere as a psychopath can be ... /:-}

He'll use Sharon as a pawn in his misdeeds ... act guilty .. but .. keep on doing it over & over & over again.

Boo hoo hoo .. the poor little psychopath is just misunderstood ... :]

[valleycliffe]

thank you holly99. perfectly stated

[observertwo]

Sharon likely reminds Adam of his mother, with her kind and gentle attitude. Sharon could help bring out Adam's Hopelike qualities. Adam could be more than a Victor clone.

[Holly99]

MM says he finds Adam intriguing & unpredictable and IA ... he most definitely is.

That said .. serial killer & psychopath Ted Bundy has been described many times as "intriguing" .. & .. he ended up murdering over 30 women.

TEAW has already established a record for using innocent women to satisfy his need for revenge:

Heather - tried to use her to obtain release from house arrest.
Victoria - underminded her at NE.
Estella - framed her for gaslighting Ashley.
Ashley - gaslighted Ashley.
Sharon - stole her baby.
Patty - took advantage of her mental illness.
The female employee at NE - framed her for the report to the SEC.

Who is going to be next on his list ??

[observertwo]

Adam and Sharon have already begun to fall in love. I'm looking forward to their first kiss!

[Redsy]

^ I, too, am looking forward to their first kiss. :-}:x

[Kangaroo]

Adam and Sharon have already begun to fall in love. I'm looking forward to their first kiss!

Oh yes, the hug was just the entree, wait for the main course and dessert!
;)

[observertwo]

Their first kiss will be a beautiful scene... just like their first hug was.

[stinastina]

The thought of Adam and Sharon together is just revolting to me. Another sick and twisted Y&R storyline. blecch

[observertwo]

MM and SC have great chemistry. With the baby storyline and a jealous, angry Nick added to the mix, the storyline will be riveting!

[andryakat]

All that I can say is that Adam and Sharon make me happy. If this spoiler/spumor is true it would be great. I enjoy Adam and Sharon scene mostly because of their amazing chemistry.

[andryakat]

Oh one more thing in that halloween episode when Adam went to talk to Phylis I really didn't like the way that she grabbed Adam to lead him to the door, and from his body language neither did he.

[observertwo]

With Nick interfering, Adam will be even more determined to keep Sharon as his friend/girlfriend. Adam doesn't let anyone tell him what to do.

[Sudzy99]

I'm really getting excited for Shadam. Plus that is so cool how MM came on and shared all that insight on Adam. Now he's got me even more intrigued.

[Y&Rdevotee]

Not to be a contrarian with the info that's out there, but let me try and clear things up a little.

In all things involving Sharon there is a genuine concern, an in incredible guilt, an amazing amount of regret, but a complete sincerity through it all. All things "Sharon" are honest.

However, all things Nick, all things Jack, all things Phyllis, etc can be manipulated or played with when it comes to dealing with them and their perception of Adam and Sharon.

From the very start, when Adam sees/hears Sharon in Victor's hospital room everything gets turned on its side because the mother of Faith is no longer a nameless/faceless victim. Now it hits home for Adam that this is someone real who is hurting, and by all appearances, a really sweet & wonderful person who has kindness in her at the highest level, much like Hope did.

So yes, at times, with certain individuals, this friendship is being manipulated, but at other times, when directly involving Sharon, there is ultimate sincerity. It is, to me, one of the many things that makes Adam so intriguing. He is too grey. You can't quite peg him. He's unpredictable, even when he's predictable. There is always reason to watch him because the character is so nuanced and his words and actions are, at times, filled with double-meanings and his behavior can be paradoxical or enigmatic. And in that way I think Adam is closer to being a real person than most characters on tv, because most real-life people can't be categorized. That is what makes us all so wonderfully human.

Mike, I really appreciate you explaining Adam's motivations as you interpret them. That's so cool. What I want to know is can I root for Shadam, or are they ultimately doomed???!:-?

[Y&Rdevotee]

MM says he finds Adam intriguing & unpredictable and IA ... he most definitely is.

That said .. serial killer & psychopath Ted Bundy has been described many times as "intriguing" .. & .. he ended up murdering over 30 women.

TEAW has already established a record for using innocent women to satisfy his need for revenge:

Heather - tried to use her to obtain release from house arrest.
Victoria - underminded her at NE.
Estella - framed her for gaslighting Ashley.
Ashley - gaslighted Ashley.
Sharon - stole her baby.
Patty - took advantage of her mental illness.
The female employee at NE - framed her for the report to the SEC.

Who is going to be next on his list ??




Oh, for crying out loud, Ted Bundy was a real person. I don't even see the comparison in the least./:-}

[observertwo]

Adam feels guilt because of what he did to Sharon. Adam genuinely cares about Sharon. As MM wrote, when Adam took Sharon's baby, Sharon was nameless and faceless. Now Adam can see for himself that Sharon is real and hurting. Adam will find a way to get Sharon's baby back to her.

[Holly99]

Oh, for crying out loud, Ted Bundy was a real person. I don't even see the comparison in the least./:-}

I'm entitled to my opinion .. & .. I see a comparison .. BOTH .. are psychopaths ... >:}

[Rocketmom]

I asked this on another thread but can't remember which one it was.

To all of those posters who love Adam, would you want your daughter to fall in love with Adam, if he were real?

Just curious.

[qjilla28]

So yes, at times, with certain individuals, this friendship is being manipulated, but at other times, when directly involving Sharon, there is ultimate sincerity. It is, to me, one of the many things that makes Adam so intriguing. He is too grey. You can't quite peg him. He's unpredictable, even when he's predictable. There is always reason to watch him because the character is so nuanced and his words and actions are, at times, filled with double-meanings and his behavior can be paradoxical or enigmatic. And in that way I think Adam is closer to being a real person than most characters on tv, because most real-life people can't be categorized. That is what makes us all so wonderfully human.

Oh, for crying out loud, Ted Bundy was a real person. I don't even see the comparison in the least./:-}

Well, Muhney is himself comparing Adam to a "real person", so I get the comparison.

Although, I have to say, with all respect to MM, I don't know ANY real person who acts like Adam Wilson does!! (Do real people actually stick needles in their eyes to get out of jail? etc...)

[Holly99]

Well, Muhney is himself comparing Adam to a "real person", so I get the comparison.

Yes, he did .. so that's why I mentioned Ted Bundy.

Psychopaths don't just pop out of their mother's womb "full blown" ... a psychopathic personality developes over time ... it's a progressive illness.

Adam's "degree" of evilness has been steadily increasing .. first he went after Victoria .. then Ashley, Estella, Rafe, Patty & then he stole Faith.

That's why I asked ... who's next ??

If Phyllis is the one who figures out Adam stole Faith .. & .. Adam knows that Phyllis knows .. will he panic & try to kill her ??

IMO .. TEAW has only just begun to wreck havoc .. he's far from finished.

[observertwo]

Storylines on soaps can be outlandish, such as someone sticking needles in their eyes... but the characters feel and show real feelings.

[Kangaroo]

Shaddam would be a darn sight more interesting than Adam stuck in jail for the next 50 years(which is what some on this board want).
I say it again, plenty of others running around free in Genoa City should by all rights be rotting in prison cells right now, so why should it be any different for Adam? :]

[observertwo]

Adam adds conflict and drama to the show. The Adam/Sharon friendship/love story isn't an ordinary friendship/love story. Adam's big secret makes me wonder if their story will have a happy ending.

[SadieLadie]

If Phyllis is the one who figures out Adam stole Faith .. & .. Adam knows that Phyllis knows .. will he panic & try to kill her ??

IMO .. TEAW has only just begun to wreck havoc .. he's far from finished.



From your mouth to God's ears. :]:]

[Cranky101]

^^^ SadieLadie Girl, you are TOO good! :]:]

I was thinking the exact same thing! If only we were that lucky. :]

Who knows, with a new "villian" in town (who's doing a MUCH better job and is more convincing and entertaining then the other villians Y&R has had), we could finally get our wish and the writers could FINALLY kill (crush!) Phyllis off! >:}

[Sudzy99]

In real life people do lots of crazy things to get out of prison and this holds true on soaps too. I really think spending time in prison is what screwed Adam up.

[Bethune08]

Oh please let this be true. Adam and Sharon falling in love would be awesome. I know that he stole her baby and I truly hope that he will find a way to reunite her with Faith. It's just I haven't seen either Adam or Sharon this free in awhile. Adam is always being judged and it seems that everyone else either thinks Sharon is a tramp or pities her, but not Adam when they are together they're just themselves.

I give credit to the writers for noticing this pairing, great job writers. :x
For those that want a Adam-Sharon union and who seem to think that everything will be alright if he gives the baby back, never mentions Ashley. Adam killed her baby. How does he make up for that?

[andryakat]

I asked this on another thread but can't remember which one it was.

To all of those posters who love Adam, would you want your daughter to fall in love with Adam, if he were real?

Just curious.

That's where the problem lies "if he were real" this is not real life this is a soap opera full of danger and fantasy. In that case the only person you would want for your child or sibling would be Mac she seems to be the good person who always does the right thing.

[JMSmall]

I think it is safe to say that Sharon would use any trick in the book
and any man on her hook to get Nick back!!

[JaiJai]

^^^ Sharon has never played games or used men to get Nick's attention. She doesn't have to play games to get Nick's attention, she just needs to breathe. So Sharon's friendship with Adam has nothing to do with Nick. Sharon can move on it's Nick that refuses to let go.

[Emmeline]

^^^I agree, JaiJai. Sharon has her issues, but she doesn't use other men to make Nick jealous. Sharon doesn't have to work to get Nick's attention. She has it without even trying or wanting it.

And as for Adam getting scared of Phyllis and running The Mad Redhead down, put the pedal to the medal, Adam, Phyllis has got it coming in spades.

[nikki1]

that is enough to make me puke

[observertwo]

Their kisses will be beautiful.

[Kangaroo]

^^^I'm visualising a little more than just kisses! :-}
Sharon Case is the first woman on Y&R that MM has had genuine chemistry with, I just didn't feel it between him and Vail Bloom.

[observertwo]

Eventually there will be more than a kiss. I hope they don't have the bedroom scene right after the first kiss. Adam and Sharon are just beginning to fall in love and feel physically attracted to each other.

[andryakat]

Yes a kiss should come first. It should catch them by surprise maybe they are laughing celebrating something and it just happens, then they can look into eachother's eyes and this time intentionally kiss.

[observertwo]

Of course they should look into each other's eyes before they kiss! That would add to the scene..

The hug was Adam's idea, and after the hug Sharon realized that she has feelings for Adam. Sharon must be expecting a kiss from Adam.

[andryakat]

I am really looking forward to the next scenes between Sharon and Adam because they haven't shared scenes since the hug. The hug could be the start of something and I hope that it will. It was really nice seeing Adam at work today with the sling. I think he get's his determination from Hope. As he said to Sharon in the halloween episode regarding his mother's blindness "she could do anything".

[observertwo]

That hug was filled with promise.

I think the mext time that Adam visits Sharon, she will
expect a kiss from him. At least I think that she will hope that he tries to kiss her!

[soccermommy]

As an Adam fan, I never want him to be caught, but I do want him to suffer for his sins! IMO, it would be perfectly ok for him to fall in love with Sharon, but not have the feelings returned (I think she will always love Nick more).
Holly, I think you're right: Adam is being portrayed as a sociopath. But in the parallel universe that is GC, why can't even a sociopath be somewhat reformed? It worked for Phyllis, Michael, and Kevin.
I'm not sure how Phyllis could ever find out for certain that Adam stole Faith, but I could see her not telling Sharon or Nick if she ever had that tidbit. I also could see her teaming up with Adam if Sharon spurns him for Nick, and Nick follows previous behavior and reunites with Sharon. Can you imagine the two of THEM together?

[Lady Winchester]

^^^I'm visualising a little more than just kisses! :-}
Sharon Case is the first woman on Y&R that MM has had genuine chemistry with, I just didn't feel it between him and Vail Bloom.

I was thinking the exact same thing a few days back. Granted that I never liked Heather, if there had been real chemistry between Vail and Michael, I would have acknowledged it. But he and Sharon Case really sizzle together... I think their first kiss is going to be very, very special...

I cannot wait to see them again! Any word on when it's going to happen? Hopefully some time next week... I want me some Shadam!! :x

[1shoefan]

okkkky brother lust part II geez i'm so over sher and her men

[MissScorpio]

I can see Adam getting obsessed with Sharon, but not love. Why would that be something to look forward to? The fact that he stole her baby and can still look her in the face is sick by itself. Adam's only agenda is making Nick pay, plus he is a sociopath. He is incapable of real love. His web is about to unravel anyway, starting with the call to the SEC. Now THAT is something to look forward to!!!! Yaaaahhh!!:-7

[Ink]

Uh Hello Adam slept with a man... Why would Sharon want to be with him!!! Yuck!! I hope the writers are not going there. No women I know would sleep with a man that is Bi-sexual the risk is way to great for her.
And we all know that comdoms are rarely used on this show:] Hell if they did I do beleive that Heather would of stayed with Adam.. UGH

[observertwo]

Sharon could eventually end up back with Nick, just like Nikki ended up back with Victor... but in the meantime, Sharon and Adam can be good friends, and maybe even fall in love.

Sharon is hurting because of what Adam did, and he's spending time with her trying to make things better. He wants to ease his conscience, so he confessed what he did with Rafe. But of course he still feels guilt. He's torn. If he confessed what he did to Sharon, he would hurt Ashley since she would lose "her" baby. Ashley would turn against him and Victor would disown him. He'd be all alone.

Also, Adam isn't bisexual. He slept with Rafe to keep Rafe from searching his room.

[Kangaroo]

Adam sleeping with Rafe showed how far he'll go in the name of self-preservation.
If it all came out, Adam would be finished, there'd be a lynch mob lining up to tear him apart, the guy would probably end up killing himself. :]
I'd hate it though, I'm a big fan of this current Adam, I want to see him softened up, any sort of friendship with Sharon is the key to this.

[ivyserpent]

Sharon belongs with nick, and when that baby is back in Sharon's arms, maybe that will happen. I just want the baby back, this is not entertaining at all to have Sharon deprived of nursing her OWN flippen child! I am not feelin a romance between her and Adam. maybe it's because I am tired of Sharon sleeping with everyone's brother or friend, or whatever. I am liking that she is getting back on track, and I don't mind them being friends. It's twisted. Hopefully it just leads to her getting the damn child back! her sleeping with adam would be ridiculous. I see Adam falling for Sharon, becausse she reminds him of Hope. But Sharon wont return the feelings. She is in love with nick and always will be. That's just the way it is. Since Adam is a popular character now, he wil find a way to get her baby back and slip through the cracks. i don't care how it's written, as long as the baby is back with Sharon.

[JaiJai]

If Adam was willing to sleep with Rafe over something as lame as getting his room searched, he'll definitely do it again if he felt he had to, so yeah he's Bisexual. Doesn't matter if he's not attracted to a man, he's just a prostitute because he'll trade his tail in for anything he feels he needs to get away with.

[observertwo]

I would also like to see Adam softened up, but I also want Adam to protect himself.

[Kangaroo]

True, and I'd like Adam to start being a little more like the actor portraying him, ie. Michael Muhney is such a great guy in real life! :)

[gcorsentino]

Sharon Case gave an interview where she stated that she and Adam are going to fall in love although Adam is manipulating the situation and she is not aware of it. They do fall very deeply in love with each other.

[observertwo]

Sharon and Nick is a storyline from the recycle bin. Sharon/Adam is a new pairing with a big secret.

[ivyserpent]

Sharon Case gave an interview where she stated that she and Adam are going to fall in love although Adam is manipulating the situation and she is not aware of it. They do fall very deeply in love with each other.
Sharon and Adam falling in love? Well i understand why the ratings are dropping. This is bad writing. C'mon Y&R writers, you can't think of anything that makes sense and is interesting? people are already complaining about the baby being swiped away from Sharon for no reason....now you have Sharon and Adam falling in love? Viewers are going to continue dropping, with writing like this!

[JaiJai]

^^^ EXACTLY Ivy! I asked this before what is the benefit of Adam and Sharon having a relationship, especially when the baby theft was a COMPLETE FLOP. It's just useless drama that serves no real purpose.

[observertwo]

I didn't see any video of the interview on the TV show's website.

I have a transcript of the entire interview. SC said that she loves the storyline right now. A few minutes later, SC said again that she loves the storyline and the conflict. SC said that she and Michael get along well and have fun on the set. SC said that she and Michael both love the stock market and talk about it every day. They have chemistry off and on screen.

SC said that when she plays Sharon having a meltdown, she plays it how she would be in that situation.

Arrows were inserted three times before sentences even
though it didn't seem as if the conversation had switched from the interviewer to SC. Also, it seemed as if there was at least one audience member who asked a question.

Still, it did seem as if SC made the statement about Adam and Sharon falling in love, and the fact that Adam is manipulating Sharon.

SC said that she filmed a Hallmark movie, a romantic comedy, which will come out next June.

[ssalley2]

I read that Sharon and Adam fall in love. I know that it's not much of a surprise. It's definitely something to look forward to!




NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, THAT IS NASTY! Can these Soap Opera's be creative and stop having these people sleep with brothers, sisters, nieces, and nephew. I am already fast forwarding through most of the show because the s/ls SUCK! Pretty soon I am going to be done to watching only 15mins of the show and then it won't be worth it.
If the writers can not be creative they need to fire them and hire new people, this STUPID!!!:[:[:[

[observertwo]

There are a limited number of contract actors.

[Kangaroo]

I saw a pic of MM & Sharon Case together on the set laughing, they obviously have a good time when not in "Adam & Sharon" mode. ;)

[Lady Winchester]

Sharon and Nick is a storyline from the recycle bin. Sharon/Adam is a new pairing with a big secret.

:]:]:] Fwah! I really, totally have to write that one down 'cause it's just too perfect!

[Lady Winchester]

Sharon and Adam falling in love? Well i understand why the ratings are dropping.

I hope we can talk about this again in a few weeks when the relationship has really taken off and so have the ratings...

[milliem]

Wow. . . .can't say I'm completely surprised, but it's still weird to think they're actually going there.

[observertwo]

I hope Adam is careful. If they continue to write Adam the the way they've been writing him the past few months; the baby switch will be blamed on Dr. Taylor, and Adam will be fine.

Adam didn't mean to hurt anyone. He lashed out at people because of what Victor and Jack did to him.

[Josslyn]

If Adam and Sharon don't fall in love i'm sure there will be alot of happy fans, but there will also be ALOT of upset ones, myself included! The writers cannot tease us with this undeniable chemisty and then have nothing become of it. I really really hope SC did say they fall in love.

[Kangaroo]

Some fans on this board would be happy if Adam was killed off!
Others like me and many others find the guy very interesting, particularly in the hands of Mr Muhney, who in my opinion has brought a lot more depth to the role. :-?

[Josslyn]

If CE coninued on withthe role of Adam, I don't think I could ever see him having chemistry with SC. Now, I really liked Chris, but ever since Michael has been onscreen its been like...Chris who?#-o

[Kangaroo]

Yeah, the hug scene had me salivating for far more, SC & MM have undeniable chemistry. :-}

[observertwo]

After all of their conversations and the hug, I hope Adam and Sharon at least kiss!

[andryakat]

^^^I so want a Shadam kiss. The writers are brilliant to have noticed this chemistry between Adam and Sharon, now they just have to write it in a way that they can get together. I kind of don't want Adam to ever be discovered in the baby switch, sorry but I don't. What can I say I love Adam and Sharon. :x

[Lady Winchester]

I've been thinking a lot about what Sharon Case said in that recent interview about Adam manipulating Sharon but then they really fall in love...

If this is true, what kind of manipulation are we talking about? Does this mean that at first Adam only wants to get close to Sharon because it's a mean to get revenge on Nick? Or could it be that he's trying to manipulate Sharon only because he doesn't want her to find out about the baby switch? I'm curious about this because next week, Sharon asks a question to Adam that leads us to think he's trying to protect her feelings by keeping Faith away from her (for now at least).

So many questions.... :-?

[elliemma]

Sharon and Adam falling in love? Well i understand why the ratings are dropping. This is bad writing.

So far, Sharon and Adam have just begun to become friends. There hasn't been any love yet. You can attribute the ratings drop to anything you want, but it's much more likely to have something to do with Eric Braeden's disappearance and the audience's boredom with the Scooby gang than a rumor about Adam and Sharon.

[observertwo]

There already is a little bit of love between Adam and Sharon... with them finding out how much they have in common, with the hug...

Adam and Sharon can have a deeper kind of love, they can have more than physical attraction, which is what Nick and Phyllis have towards each other.

[Shannon92]

Sharon's decision to be by herself sure ended rather quickly, no? God, I can't wait for her to find out the truth. Dummy.

[valleycliffe]

^ uhh, at this point sharon is by herself. is she not allowed to have a friend?
she doesn't know all that adumb has done. neither does his other bff ashley. :rolleyes:

[SadieLadie]

^^^ EXACTLY Ivy! I asked this before what is the benefit of Adam and Sharon having a relationship, especially when the baby theft was a COMPLETE FLOP. It's just useless drama that serves no real purpose.

How was the baby theft a complete flop? That storyline hasn't even been completed. I'm sure there will be much much more before Sharon gets her baby back and Ashley finds out the truth. I'm lost as to how it flopped?

[Sudzy99]

Sharon can have all the friends she wants but they all get benefits.

[Shannon92]

^ uhh, at this point sharon is by herself. is she not allowed to have a friend?
she doesn't know all that adumb has done. neither does his other bff ashley. :rolleyes:

She can have all the friends she wants, but we both know that it's going to progress to more than just a "hold my purse while I try this on" friendship.

[valleycliffe]

^ uhh, no we both don't know that cause i don't agree.
hopefully this sick storyline will end soon. :-{

[Shannon92]

The butt-load of spoilers would beg to differ.

[observertwo]

This storyline is complicated, new and different. If it ended soon, Sharon would go back to being dependent on Nick; and Nick would go back to trying to figure out if he wanted Phyllis or Sharon.

[ivyserpent]

I noticed a lot of people responding to myy comment about the ratings. I don't think the ratings will sky rocket when Adam and Sharon get together. People will tune in to see Sharon reunited with her baby. The writers are just stalling the reunion of Sharon and Nick, we all know most likely they will be reunited. I have been unhappy with Adam when the gaslighting story began and the blindness. I have no problem with Adam being evil, but I would prefer it written so that it makes sense. The storyline changed so many times, that the goal for Adam to hurt victor turned into him hurting Ashley for no reason. The only people that actually hurt victor, were Billy, Jack, and now Ashley, since her sanity has been magically cured. That's terrible writing. The fact that Adam is blind, and doing everything like a normal person is ridiculous. I don't care if he has tunnel vision or whatever, it doesn't make sense. Let's just get real here, there is no way a blind person would be able to do everything Adam has done. I know they wrote it in as payback, but that was a waste because he isn't blind to me. They should have just kept his eyesight, it would be more believable. Now all the sudden he loves victor after causing the death of his baby. And for no reason he stole sharon's baby? I thought he wanted to hurt victor? Now Sharon and Adam fall in love? It makes no sense. I already like most people hate the fact that after everything Sharon has gone through, she loses another child? That for me isn't enjoyable to watch. I will tune in when the baby is back where it belongs. Bad writing is what is making the ratings go down. It's really disappointing, because y&r made some sense years ago. Now it's based just on shock value that makes zero sense. All this jmo.

[observertwo]

There are many posters who are looking forward to the Adam/Sharon love story.

[ivyserpent]

I see that there are looking forward to it. I understand how it could be interesting, but, I don't like how it's written. This is jmo. So I am not saying that anybody is wrong, I don't think that. Sharon should have her baby. That's it. I know Adam is a popular character so I don't expect him to confess. I just wish that he was written less randomly.

[SadieLadie]

This storyline is complicated, new and different. If it ended soon, Sharon would go back to being dependent on Nick; and Nick would go back to trying to figure out if he wanted Phyllis or Sharon.

Your'e absolutely right! :D

I'm sooooo sick and tired the of Phick/Shick quad and Nick bouncing back and forth from his true love (Sharon) to his sex partner (Phyllis). I-)

I'm ready for something new and exciting and that's what I definitely see in Shadam. :x

[Josslyn]

^^^So true. The Shick/Phick crap has been done way too many times in the past few years, and it will be absolutely ridiculous if they start it up again. Nick made his choice and it should stay that way.

[observertwo]

They could have skipped the baby switch and Adam and Sharon still could have met and become friends. But the baby storyline adds drama and conflict to what might have been an average real life type of storyline.

[Kangaroo]

It'd be more interesting than the endless Nick/Sharon/Phyllis triangle! (:|
I'll sit back, wait and see what happens, it's up to MAB, Sheffer and the writing team where they take Shadam, if anywhere. :-?

[observertwo]

Nick seemed to change his mind from one show to the next about which woman he wanted.

The Adam/Sharon storyline could go on for months, with Adam trying to figure out how to get Sharon's baby back to her, and a jealous Nick trying to interfere with their relationship.

There's a lot that the writers could do with the Adam/Sharon/Nick storyline. Why would they want to wrap it up quickly?

[Lady Winchester]

The fact that Adam is blind, and doing everything like a normal person is ridiculous. I don't care if he has tunnel vision or whatever, it doesn't make sense. Let's just get real here, there is no way a blind person would be able to do everything Adam has done. I know they wrote it in as payback, but that was a waste because he isn't blind to me. They should have just kept his eyesight, it would be more believable.

You know, if we were to make a list of all the "unbelievable" facts which have been introduced in some of the storylines we've seen on this show over the years, we could probably fill an entire book. Seriously.

And Adam doesn't have to confess to anything for Sharon to get her baby back... :)

[Lady Winchester]

I agree with my fellow Shadam fans here when they say that the whole Shick/Phick saga was really getting stale. It's always the same back and forth and quite frankly, I stopped caring a long time ago. Nick doesn't deserve either of these great women so what's the point.

Another Y&R fan I spoke to recently described the Sharon/Adam relationship wonderfully by saying this: "Sharon and Adam have this creepily-twisted chemistry that is sinfully good".

Whether you are for or against it, it will bring drama and spice to the Y&R canvas. I don't think there has been a more talked about couple on this show in a very, very long time and if this relationship is handled in an interesting and clever way, it will be dynamite.

[ivyserpent]

I agree that there were changes made when MM went into the role. But the inconsistencies are what's hurting the show. It's not just Adam, various storylines make no sense and plot points are made randomly without developing characters emotions. Y&R was always good with developing characters throughout storylines, so it shouldn't be hard to understand why the characters do things, because we know what they have been through. When Adam first came to the show, I understood exactly where he was coming from. So I knew exactly why he was hurting Victoria and Nick and even Victor. So now, just to make him do random things like gaslight Ashley, cause her to miscarriage, cover it up and steal a baby was just so random. There is no development of character. So I can see why people just think he is evil, and why MM tried to explain in this thread about Adam's character. When things are so randomly written with no development, he is just an evil character, that you can't get in to. I don't understand why Adam is doing what he is doing now. Some people say in this thread that Adam didn't mean to hurt anybody, but he obviously did! I didn't see any remorse from stealing Sharon's baby, and now INTENTIONALLY keeping it away from her. How is he remorseful? That's where they lost the character development, for me. I was with him until the gaslighting story.

[Lady Winchester]

^^^ You're making a good point here, Ivyserpent. Character development is something that the writers have been sorely neglecting for a long time. We all have been wondering about Adam's true motivations during the entire gaslighting story and we still are. As to whether we will every know what they truly are, this is still very much up in the air. If the writers have any kind of respect for their viewers, they will hopefully fill us in on this at some point. Hopefully... :)

[ivyserpent]

You know, if we were to make a list of all the "unbelievable" facts which have been introduced in some of the storylines we've seen on this show over the years, we could probably fill an entire book. Seriously.

And Adam doesn't have to confess to anything for Sharon to get her baby back... :)
Oh yeah! I am sure we can write a book. I feel like I have written a book on all the disappointing stories that the writers have cooked up since MAB took over. So many people on this board and others have expressed the inconsistencies of the writing, but that doesn't mean that Adam's isn't just as bad. But remember this is just my opinion, I don't think anybody is wrong. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions and if you enjoy it, cool. Everyone's different. I have been watching the show for years and like others, I am just surprised how lazy the writers are. Some just don't know how to write and you can tell because the storylines magically change. Adam's blindness is really stupid to me. Why, make him blind if he is going to be doing everyhting like a normal person. it's like if Adam was paraylized, but he could walk sometimes. It doesn't make sense. That's all I was saying about that.

[observertwo]

Wrongs can't be righted instantly... there wouldn't be any conflict or drama left.

Also, more than corporate intrigue is needed to keep the show interesting.

Victor got Adam out of prison because of his blindness.

[SadieLadie]

I see that there are looking forward to it. I understand how it could be interesting, but, I don't like how it's written. This is jmo. So I am not saying that anybody is wrong, I don't think that. Sharon should have her baby. That's it. I know Adam is a popular character so I don't expect him to confess. I just wish that he was written less randomly.

I totally agree that Sharon should have her baby back, and I hope that's sooner rather than later. I know what Adam did was wrong, I'm just being honest when I say I guess I don't care, because it's just a soap and I enjoy Adam's character. I understand, also, that a lot of people don't. Like you, I'm not telling anybody else to like him. I'm just saying I do. I, too, understand what you're saying.

[ivyserpent]

I know why victor got him out jail. if you are going to write a character with an impairment, it should be clear, especially with something major like blindness. When you look at Adam doing all the things he does, he isn't blind. That's why it's bad writing. As a viewer I should see that he is blind, there should be no in betweens like tunnel vision, or whatever. Should be clear. Making him blind was a joke for a character who is supposed to be evil and sneaking around.

[Josslyn]

Everyone said that Adam couldn't replace Victor's character, but I already see it happening. So many people loved to hate Victor and now so many people are jumping on the Adam bandwagon. Victor did some messed up things, but ended up getting away with them. While people still think he should pay for his crimes, he never did and was still accepted by fans. I know Adam has done horrible things, but I love to watch him and hope that he sticks around for the rest of the shows life span.

[ivyserpent]

I totally agree that Sharon should have her baby back, and I hope that's sooner rather than later. I know what Adam did was wrong, I'm just being honest when I say I guess I don't care, because it's just a soap and I enjoy Adam's character. I understand, also, that a lot of people don't. Like you, I'm not telling anybody else to like him. I'm just saying I do. I, too, understand what you're saying.
That's cool, I understand. The problem I have with Sharon, is that after everything that Sharon has been through, having a breakdown, she is going to decide after a few days that she should be stronger after losing faith? That makes no sense either knowing sharon's character. It all doesn't make sense! It's just plot points with no development. Her dating Adam is just another plot point. Jmo.

[observertwo]

Adam had to pretend to be blind for months, to keep from being sent back to prison. Adam's fake blindness was needed for storyline purposes.

I agree with Josslyn: I hope Adam lasts as long as the show does.

Sharon recovered quickly after losing her baby for storyline purposes. The writers soon got Sharon interested in Adam to help keep viewers from being bored.

I don't question the details or the reality of what's on the show. I just accept it for what it is.

[ivyserpent]

That's my point! Everything is plot points. No development of characters just shock value and random acts. Y&r was better at character development, understanding where people are coming from and seeing the emotions. Quick stuff like this is what's causing ratings to drop. Not just the Adam story but everything is rushed with the exception of a few stories. The blindness was a waste for me. I know why they did it in the first place, but it's stupid now, because he does not look blind. I don't mind Adam staying on, as long as written with some logic. None of this random acts with terrible writng. They need better writers to write a character like Adam. He could be so much better.

[observertwo]

Without the blindness Adam would still be in prison. The botox was a plot device to get him out of prison. But, I think his character has been developed. Adam was vindictive for months. Then there was the stair scene. Now he feels guilt about what he did to Sharon. I think the Adam character is improving. I think they will slowly improve Adam, until he's "like" Victor.

People have varying ideas about what to do to "improve" storylines. I like Adam's storyline.

There were certain storylines that I wasn't interested in, such as Daniel's porn addiction, the chipmunk storyline, the art storyline... but there are other storylines that keep me interested in the show.

[ivyserpent]

Have to agree to disagree about the blindness. My point is today, he does not look blind. I know it was a plot device, but it was poorly executed because there is no impairment on his end. The way they can improve stories is to get better writers. Writers that know the history of the show and actually know how to write. But this is jmo. I see ZERO remorse from Adam. He is intentionally hurting Sharon by keeping her away from her child. That's the worst thing you can do. No one can replace victor, I am not sure the show will last that long for them to try to make that happen. Especially now that victor is staying. When Adam first appeared he was like victor. Now he is just a random evil character with no direction that I can see. But it works for some people and that's all that matters.

[Kangaroo]

The great thing about casting Michael Muhney as Adam?
He is so physically similar to Eric Braeden and has the same presence on air!
Assuming Adam's crimes aren't completely exposed, there's every reason to think that he can remain a frontburner character for many years to come, especially if they sign MM to a longterm contract.
Similarly Adam/Sharon gives the writers so much to play with! :-?

[observertwo]

Adam feels a great deal of remorse: that's why he's hanging around Sharon. If Adam quickly gave Sharon's baby back to her, there wouldn't be any storyline left.. Plus, Adam has to figure out how to return Sharon's baby without anyone finding out that he took her baby. The show needs drama and conflicts that are resolved slowly.

Hope called Victor and told him that Adam was hanging out with the wrong crowd. Victor found out that Adam had left Columbia without paying his rent. Then Victor traced Adam to Sri Lanka. So Adam wasn't "like" Victor when he first got to Genoa City.

[Crystal_Ann]

I think that Adam and Sharon are eventually going to fall in love because it will make it the baby kidnapping reveal more dramatic. It doesn't get anymore "soapy" then her falling in love with the man who stole her daughter then finding out about it.

I asked this on another thread but can't remember which one it was.

To all of those posters who love Adam, would you want your daughter to fall in love with Adam, if he were real?

Just curious.

If Adam and Sharon get together, they would be the first soap couple where one half did something horrible to the other so that's like asking the fans of those other pairings if they would want their daughter (or son) with someone like that. What soap pairing a person enjoys has nothing to do with real life.

TPTB know how much fans detest the idea of a romantic pairing with Adam and Sharon so I hope they've gotten the message and NOT go there.

Not all fans detest it, Adam/Sharon do have fans.

[ivyserpent]

The storyline is written poorly for reasons I stated above. The inconsistencies of the story is terrible. The baby switch makes no sense. You can write the facts, but it is so ridiculous and stupid. If the baby switch made some sense then I could get with it. But from the start with ashley's " pretend pregnancy" and her sudden sanity coming back to her is horrible inconsistent writing. Just as bad as the chipmunk story. Adam is going to intentionally keep the baby from Sharon. How is that remorseful? Good writers would make things clean cut to the viewers. If Adam was remorseful it should be clear. There should be no doubt about anything. I don't care how they give back the baby, it will be stupid writing anyway, because so many people are pissed that Sharon is without her child for no reason. Adam for me was like victor in the beginning, he wasn't random like he is now. I would like to be in the room when they pitch ideas. Who said that this baby switch will make sense to viewers and Ashley will magically get her sanity back. And, even though Adam is blind, we will have him steal the baby for no reason. Horrible.

[SadieLadie]

The reason Adam doesn't look blind is because he ISN'T blind! I wish Michael Muhney would come on and explain that to the ones who are still having trouble understanding the difference between blindness and tunnel vision.

MM portrays a man with tunnel vision very well; he shows it clearly when he uses a cell phone, looks at paperwork or photos, etc.. He couldn't make it any clearer.

[JaiJai]

The storyline is written poorly for reasons I stated above. The inconsistencies of the story is terrible. The baby switch makes no sense. You can write the facts, but it is so ridiculous and stupid. If the baby switch made some sense then I could get with it. But from the start with ashley's " pretend pregnancy" and her sudden sanity coming back to her is horrible inconsistent writing. Just as bad as the chipmunk story. Adam is going to intentionally keep the baby from Sharon. How is that remorseful? Good writers would make things clean cut to the viewers. If Adam was remorseful it should be clear. There should be no doubt about anything. I don't care how they give back the baby, it will be stupid writing anyway, because so many people are pissed that Sharon is without her child for no reason. Adam for me was like victor in the beginning, he wasn't random like he is now. I would like to be in the room when they pitch ideas. Who said that this baby switch will make sense to viewers and Ashley will magically get her sanity back. And, even though Adam is blind, we will have him steal the baby for no reason. Horrible.
It's all pointless, no matter how many people try to defend the character and this pitiful s/l it just needs to be over. It does nothing to enhance the show and just showcases the weaknesses of the writing and the lack of creativity and thought the writers have to offer. Adam may have tunnel vision, but he had no problem running around that hospital like he lived there, it was poorly executed and Sharon and Ashley were thrown under the bus for this nonsense. Sharon's mental illness was never explored and we'll probably never know why she went off the deep end like that, we'll never get a real diagnosis of her condition. Ashley actually believes she gave birth to a baby and is just magically well. If these are the lengths the writers feel they need to go through to make Adam relevant, I'd rather get rid of the character and be spared this nonsense. Adam and this stupid baby stealing s/l wasn't worth the sacrifice.

[ivyserpent]

The reason Michael doesn't look blind is because he ISN'T blind! I wish Michael Muhney would come on and explain that to the ones who are still having trouble understanding the difference between blindness and tunnel vision.

MM portrays a man with tunnel vision very well; he shows it clearly when he uses a cell phone, looks at paperwork or photos, etc.. He couldn't make it any clearer.
This is my point! If other people including myself are questioning his eyesight, that is a problem with the writing! Honestly, as a viewer I shouldn't have to figure out if he is seeing or not seeing. I don't care about tunnel vision or what exactly he is seeing. For a character that is supposed to sneaky and viscious, making him have tunnel vision which is still an impairment to his eyesight is a joke. He does way too many things to have a disability, I think we can agree to that. It should be clear to viewers what is going on.

[observertwo]

Soap characters who are thrown under the bus can quickly recover. If they didn't, there wouldn't be much of a show.

I've seen people with white canes who move around quickly and confidently. Even people with no vision at all adapt. Adam has tunnel vision: he struggles, but he has adapted.

[JaiJai]

^^^ It's not much of a show when that occurs. I understand wanting to take a character on the farside, I have no problem with that, however, when the s/l is just wack with no real explanation it just hurts the character and the s/l in the long run. When characters are constantly thrown under a bus like that they often get written into a corner and eventually written off the show because they've gone too far without proper explanation. So like I said the sacrifice of Sharon and Ashley wasn't worth it, this s/l is just a mess and just needs to be wrapped up, it can't be saved it was dead on arrival.

[SadieLadie]

Of course he didn't have any trouble running around a hospital. Tunnel vision wouldn't prevent you from doing that. And of course stealing the baby didn't make sense. Since when in the real world or pretend world would stealing a baby EVER make sense? And since when do soap operas make sense?

You can't blame storylines or characters you don't like on poor writing. I hate that Victor is still on Y&R and wasn't written out. But that's because I don't like him and I don't like what he did to Colleen and Summer. I take full responsibility for not liking him. I don't blame it on the writers.

And viewers who do not like Adam, they think the storyline was dead on arrival. However, viewers who DO like Adam, they think the storyline was a HIT on arrival. It just depends on your vantage point.

[JaiJai]

^^^ It's the inconsistencies of his blindness. He was able to navigate around the hospital with no problem however, when he's at Sharon's I see him feeling around the walls and the furniture trying to figure out where he is. He can see who Sharon is from across the chapel, however, when Sharon went to pick up the ashes from the hospital he couldn't make out who she was from a shorter distance. His blindness is inconsistent one day he can get around no problem then the next he's feeling around for furniture and what not, which is it?

Actually I can blame my dislike for the character on the writing, that's what makes the character who he is. Adam and this s/l was poorly written from jump. Like I said it was DOA, nobody wanted it, it serves no purpose, it's not entertaining, it wasn't worth the damage to certain characters, it wreaks of inconsistencies, it's completely plot driven and has little to do with the characters, it's literally just a soap opera cliche' and it's because of writing like this soaps get a bad rep.

[ivyserpent]

Not sure if you are responding to me, but I will respond since I have been talking about this. The writers are what I am disliking about Adam. Adam was cool when he first came, because he was CONSISTENTLY written well. Now he just random for me. If you are a writer your job is to write something that makes sense or else your ratings drop and your show is canceled. Y&R ratings are dropping for this reason, and it's not just the Adam storyline it's every storyline. I saw great potential with Adam's character when he first started, I don't dislike the character, I like evil characters and think that they are a big part of the reason people watch soaps. However, I have been watching this show for years, and when i see stupid, not well thought out story lines like Adam's it's sad. But remember this is my opinion. Everything thing that Adam has done makes no sense so far to me. Well written stories should make you see why the characters are doing what they are doing. We shouldn't have to deal with things like figuring out what "tunnel vision" is. I will be honest and say I don't really know what that is and what happens when you have that. And I am too lazy to to go online and read about it. the writers obviously are not really writing that into the script. they put in to remind the viewer that there is an impairment, but looking at Adam, he has no impairment. If they throw in a few scenes with him reading a paper or talking on a cell phone to show that he has tunnel vision, but fail to show that when he is stealing babies, and climbing out windows in the dark. Then that's bad writing and bad direction. things should make sense to the viewers, or you have failed as a writer. my creative writing teachers in college used to say, write to the viewer like you are writing to someone that knows nothing about your topic. Don't make them have to figure out what you are talking about.

[SadieLadie]

My memories of my creative writing courses are a bit blurry today, so you have me there. But in my 30 years of writing and publishing fiction, I can tell you what you learn in school is not always engraved in stone.

We can bounce this back and forth all night and I'm certain none of us will change our minds. I think we all can agree on that.

Let's just say some people don't like the storyline nor Adam, and some of us like both. That's pretty much the bottom line. I can't wait to see this storyline unfold. And I adore Adam. That's just me.

Nite, ladies. :)

[JaiJai]

So true Ivy, these s/ls are supposed to be a journey for the characters and the audience. The writers should be taken us through this journey step by step, making the characters motives understandable, show character development, we should know why the character is doing what he's doing. To me the writing is so disconnected from the character that it's really hard to care because it has nothing to do with the character. I just see plot point after plot point trying to move story along but the characters aren't really going with the story. MAB and Co. have completely abandoned the characters and their development in favor of drama and without the character development it's just throwing drama bombs at the audience creating all this shock and awe, but when the dust quickly settles there is absolutely no substance or thought behind the drama. As a viewer and a long time fan I find it to be very frustrating at times trying to watch this mess. I just want to hurry up and get to the end, the journey isn't really going anywhere.

[observertwo]

When Adam was climbing out of windows in the dark, he didn't have tunnel vision. His botox injections had worn off, and he could see just fine. When he took the baby from Dr. Taylor he had tunnel vision, but since Dr. Taylor was standing in front of him, he could see that Dr. Taylor was holding a baby.

They've shown what the world looks like from Adam's point of view several times. Adam even mentioned that what he sees is like looking through a blurry doughnut hole.

[ivyserpent]

When Adam was climbing out of windows in the dark, he didn't have tunnel vision. His botox injections had worn off, and he could see just fine. When he took the baby from Dr. Taylor he had tunnel vision, but since Dr. Taylor was standing in front of him, he could see that Dr. Taylor was holding a baby.

They've shown what the world looks like from Adam's point of view several times. Adam even mentioned that what he sees is like looking through a blurry doughnut hole.
I agree with Sadie, we can go back and forth with this. But I am pretty tired, and I am just repeating myself. As much as i don't like what's written in this storyline, and the development of Adam's character, I understand that some people like it regardless of the inconsistencies of the writing. And that's fine. it's all an opinion. No opinion is right or wrong. I understand that you and some are big fans of Adam, it works for you and that's fine. Jai Jai and i are completely over this storyline I guess, until Sharon gets her baby back! HA! I will tune in when that happens, but for now, I am not interested in him, based on the reasons stated above. Observer, you can write down the facts about tunnel vision and try to explain it to me, but the fact is, he shouldn't be impaired for his type of character. It doesn't make sense no matter how it's explained. It Just doesn't work.

Peace out!

[Muhney]

Instructions:

1. Take 2 empty toilet paper cardboard rolls and fasten them over your eyes.

2. Walk around, use your computer, dial a number on your cell phone, fix yourself a bowl of cereal , have a face-to-face conversation with someone.

3. Do this for an entire weekend.

You will find you can do most everything. You will also find that you might occasionally bump into things but that your learning curve improves dramatically. You will find that you use your hands from time to time to feel your way through things outside your peripheral vision.

THAT is what retinitis pigmentosa is. THAT is the severity of Adam's condition. I've researched this condition and used my self-invented "home-test-kit" for two full weekends. So, I can state emperically that what you see on the show is quite accurate.

[nantucketisland]

I'd love to read that tidbit because I have HEARD that one falls, but not the other! ;)


Dear God, not Adumb and Sharon!!:-{ I am sure it's Adam making the moves on Sharon-------ugh. Train wreck...................
No chemistry there.

[observertwo]

Thank you for your explanation of tunnel vision, Michael. It was interesting to read about your self-invented "home-test-kit," how you found out for yourself what it's like to live with the condition. I noticed Adam feeling objects while moving around a room. That makes sense since he can only see things directly in fron of him, and that explains why he tripped over that IV pole.

They have repeatedly shown what Adam's vision is like, but when they mentioned rp, I did a search to find out more about the condition.

Tunnel vision to me is like walking or driving through a tunnel. You can only see what is directly in front of you.

[Popforbreakfast]

Instructions:

1. Take 2 empty toilet paper cardboard rolls and fasten them over your eyes.

2. Walk around, use your computer, dial a number on your cell phone, fix yourself a bowl of cereal , have a face-to-face conversation with someone.

3. Do this for an entire weekend.

You will find you can do most everything. You will also find that you might occasionally bump into things but that your learning curve improves dramatically. You will find that you use your hands from time to time to feel your way through things outside your peripheral vision.

THAT is what retinitis pigmentosa is. THAT is the severity of Adam's condition. I've researched this condition and used my self-invented "home-test-kit" for two full weekends. So, I can state emperically that what you see on the show is quite accurate.

Thank you for explaining that, Muhney.

FWIW, I don't think the confusion some viewers are experiencing comes from inconsistencies in your portrayal. Maybe it's that I know someone who is partially sighted, and I see similarities between how she moves around (cares for her children, gardens - even mows!, volunteers in the school, navigates the Kroger) and how Adam meets his physical challenges?

IMO the main problem here is something we've dubbed The Extreme Speed Mandate. Used to be, the show had time to really drill these concepts so that not only did 99.9% of viewers understood what was happening, but 99.8% were screaming OK, OK, I got it! Move on! ;)

These days, it's pretty boom boom boom. If you blink and miss an explanation, it's lost to you.

Maybe you could advocate for a compromise there? :D

[elliemma]

My memories of my creative writing courses are a bit blurry today, so you have me there. But in my 30 years of writing and publishing fiction, I can tell you what you learn in school is not always engraved in stone.

We can bounce this back and forth all night and I'm certain none of us will change our minds. I think we all can agree on that.

Let's just say some people don't like the storyline nor Adam, and some of us like both. That's pretty much the bottom line. I can't wait to see this storyline unfold. And I adore Adam. That's just me.

Nite, ladies. :)

I think your explanations are very clear and easy to understand and I just happen to agree with everything you say ;) so thank you for having the patience to continue to speak up for Adam and his fans. He's a controversial character for sure.

[Holly99]

IMO the main problem here is something we've dubbed The Extreme Speed Mandate. Used to be, the show had time to really drill these concepts so that not only did 99.9% of viewers understood what was happening, but 99.8% were screaming OK, OK, I got it! Move on! ;)

These days, it's pretty boom boom boom. If you blink and miss an explanation, it's lost to you.
ITA .. and this is happening in ALL of the storylines .. not just Adam's.

[labelle]

Either Sharon falls in love with Adam, or they fall in love with each other. The hug was just the beginning. Sharon/Billy was just physical and was over quickly. Sharon/Adam is developing very slowly.


I ask all you what does not happend quickly on soaps. People are mentally sick have babies (i.e. Ashley and Sharon) and turn sane in one week. They are shameless criminals and then pillars of the community. They date, fall in love and get married in one month. TOPS

[SadieLadie]

Instructions:

1. Take 2 empty toilet paper cardboard rolls and fasten them over your eyes.

2. Walk around, use your computer, dial a number on your cell phone, fix yourself a bowl of cereal , have a face-to-face conversation with someone.

3. Do this for an entire weekend.

You will find you can do most everything. You will also find that you might occasionally bump into things but that your learning curve improves dramatically. You will find that you use your hands from time to time to feel your way through things outside your peripheral vision.

THAT is what retinitis pigmentosa is. THAT is the severity of Adam's condition. I've researched this condition and used my self-invented "home-test-kit" for two full weekends. So, I can state emperically that what you see on the show is quite accurate.

Michael:

Thank you, thank you, thank you! A few of us have tried to explain this several times and it's jut not working. Hopefully, your explanation will make it clearer.

I think you're portraying somebody with tunnel vision spot-on! I hope some day TPTB will find one of those soapy miracle cures for you, but until then, I'm enjoying every second of your portrayal. Excellent job!

[observertwo]

They've shown what Adam's vision is like several times.
Also, they've shown him reading the return address on a letter, and looking at a cell phone number. They've shown him with stacks of paperwork that he was going to proofread. He's mentioned his driver several times.

So it's obvious that Adam can see things that are right in front of him... but he can't see well enough to drive, since he doesn't have peripheral vision.

[mslove83]

I actually wouldn't have minded a Sharon/Adam pairing if he hadn't taken her baby. I just don't see how he could ever reedem himself after that.

[observertwo]

Characters in GC have been redeemed for committing worse crimes.