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Y&ROn&Off
11-05-2009, 05:24 PM
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A gift is given to Lauren at Daniel and Am's wedding.
Phillip might be leaving GC!
Phyliss learns something about MJ that shocks her!

Redsy
11-05-2009, 05:26 PM
Daniel and Amber are getting married already? :o

Shan2133
11-05-2009, 05:26 PM
Wedding?!!?!?!?! WTH is going on!?!?!? They JUST got engaged....
smh....now I see why I still have not really been watching......

Thanks for the spoilers!

Damberfan
11-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Daniel and Amber's wedding day arrives and I couldn't be happier! I have been waiting for this news for so long! THANK YOU SO MUCH! :x:x:x:x:x

Holly99
11-05-2009, 05:32 PM
Phillip might be leaving GC

Maybe he has to return to Australia to tie up loose ends.

When Phillip returns ... it would be great if he brought along someone he thinks is a "special guy" ... F-)




Phyliss learns something about MJ that shocks her!

The only thing I can think of that would shock Phyllis .. would be finding out that Patty's pregnant with Jack's child ... :]:]

Kiri05
11-05-2009, 05:32 PM
So Deacon will finally be putting whatever plan "Mother" has in motion...

tamxxx
11-05-2009, 05:34 PM
Great more screentime for Amber:rolleyes:. Lets hope she gets married and rides of to the sunset to have her long honeymoon that she so truly deserves.:D

Damberfan
11-05-2009, 05:36 PM
She does deserve it, but I think they will show Daniel and Amber on their honeymoon (like they did with Lame) :x:x:x:x:x

tamxxx
11-05-2009, 05:38 PM
^^^Well Damberfan I hope you enjoy watching your favourite couple, you got your christmas wish at last, a Damber wedding lucky you.;)

Damberfan
11-05-2009, 05:40 PM
Thank you. I will enjoy it. :D

JMSmall
11-05-2009, 06:13 PM
Well I guess that takes care of the question of who Amber will cheat
on Daniel with next!! I can't wait for their wedding.

bluenanny
11-05-2009, 06:27 PM
Maybe Phyllis learns that MJ was looking in the window when she (Phyllis) was doing the nasty on the tacky couch with Jack!!:]

bellc
11-05-2009, 06:44 PM
Maybe Patty tells her she switched the paternity results

smaverick1
11-05-2009, 06:59 PM
Belic, you mean Faith's paternity results, right? ;) Don't go opening the "Summer is Jack's" can of worms. I think we've gone a whole month without a thread with that title.

Soapgurl37
11-05-2009, 06:59 PM
Maybe Patty tells her she switched the paternity results

Now that would be a twist and give future drama when Faith is given back to Sharon but I don't think it's going to be that in fact I would bet money it's learning that Patty saw her and Jack sleeping together.

thornton1021
11-05-2009, 07:10 PM
I am happy for Amber and Daniel. :)

sab980
11-05-2009, 07:13 PM
Maybe he has to return to Australia to tie up loose ends.

When Phillip returns ... it would be great if he brought along someone he thinks is a "special guy" ... F-)






The only thing I can think of that would shock Phyllis .. would be finding out that Patty's pregnant with Jack's child ... :]:]




or she knows why MJ went after her like her one night stand with Jack.:]

seattlegirl
11-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Can't wait to see danbers wedding. I wonder if they will have the loveline guys perform the ceremony.

I really wonder what Laurens gift will be. I'm glad to see her in a spoiler, it's been a long time coming.

Wouldn't it be something if Victor first approached Patti years back and Patti came to town. She found out Phyllis was expecting and Jack could have been the father. Patti had the fixed results sent to Nick so Nick thought he was the father of Summer. The father could really be Jack though.

tigerdee41
11-05-2009, 07:34 PM
:-\HUH? Damber is getting married?

Congrats Damber fans :clap::clap:

HarleyPat
11-05-2009, 07:38 PM
Really Daniel and Amber are getting married, thats wonderful.
I'll be sure to watch it.
Love them both.

YRRanger
11-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Maybe Phyllis learns that MJ was looking in the window when she (Phyllis) was doing the nasty on the tacky couch with Jack!!:]

I hope so!!!!

Phyllis always likes to sweep her own adultery under the rug. I hope MJ wraps Phyllis in that rug and sends it rolling.

aat827
11-05-2009, 07:42 PM
Maybe Phyllis learns that MJ was looking in the window when she (Phyllis) was doing the nasty on the tacky couch with Jack!!:]


This is what I think as well. Then Phyllis will have to play nice in the sandbox!!!:]:] There is no way that little secret is NOT going to be revealed at some point!

Emmeline
11-05-2009, 07:43 PM
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Daniel and Amber's wedding day arrives and I couldn't be happier! I have been waiting for this news for so long! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Hey, Damberfan, TPTB finally made your day! :D Congrats! Your hanging in there through thick and thin paid off. :clap:

~~~~~

Okay, so Phillip might be leaving? I hope they at least try resolve things between him and his son first. The show really blew this story big time.

aat827
11-05-2009, 07:45 PM
Why does it seem like ever other week there is a spoiler about Phillip possibly leaving? This seems to be the only thing TIIC can come up with this character!

Damberfan
11-05-2009, 07:46 PM
Thanks. I never lost faith in them. I knew Y&R wouldn't let me down! :D

Restlessgirl
11-05-2009, 07:50 PM
Daniel and Amber are getting married! yay!!!!!!!!!
I'm a little suprised though, i wasn't expecting them to marry soo soon, but I'm happy!:D:D

seattlegirl
11-05-2009, 07:51 PM
This won't be one of Phyllis favorite weeks :]

First her sons wedding (I hope Danny will be in town so one parent will be happy) and then finding out something about MJ :o

Soapgurl37
11-05-2009, 08:02 PM
Can't wait to see danbers wedding. I wonder if they will have the loveline guys perform the ceremony.

I really wonder what Laurens gift will be. I'm glad to see her in a spoiler, it's been a long time coming.

Wouldn't it be something if Victor first approached Patti years back and Patti came to town. She found out Phyllis was expecting and Jack could have been the father. Patti had the fixed results sent to Nick so Nick thought he was the father of Summer. The father could really be Jack though.

That's not going to happen. The writers have all said that Summer looks like Nick. If we are to believe that Faith is Nick's because of those comments then Summer must be too.

Soapgurl37
11-05-2009, 08:07 PM
This is what I think as well. Then Phyllis will have to play nice in the sandbox!!!:]:] There is no way that little secret is NOT going to be revealed at some point!

I'm a Phick fan and I want this secret to come out because Nick doesn't have a leg to stand on. Nick had broken Phyllis's heart and left his family and was across town in bed with his pregnant mistress.

Phyllis up to that point hadn't slept with or kissed another man.

I'm hoping for Nick to feel some real pain from this because had he kept his butt at home with his family instead of going back to the past Summer would of never got hurt.

seattlegirl
11-05-2009, 08:10 PM
That's not going to happen. The writers have all said that Summer looks like Nick. If we are to believe that Faith is Nick's because of those comments then Summer must be too.

You never know it's a soap...anything can happen.

Josslyn
11-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Yay Danber's wedding, finally!:x

Hopefully the ceremony actually goes down, I have some horrible feeling that something will happen and they will not be able to go through with the wedding. I hope my instincts are wrong though!

Soapgurl37
11-05-2009, 08:18 PM
You never know it's a soap...anything can happen.

Then I guess Faith may not be Nick's too which is fine with me. I perfer her to be Billy's kid. :)

Y&Rdevotee
11-05-2009, 08:22 PM
It's good to hear that Danber is getting married!! I can't wait!

seattlegirl
11-05-2009, 08:27 PM
Then I guess Faith may not be Nick's too which is fine with me. I perfer her to be Billy's kid. :)

Very well could be...anything is possible.

SarahSue
11-05-2009, 09:25 PM
What if Patty did have a child with Jack all those years ago...how old would she be? I wouldn't put it past the writers to make this Daisy person Patty and Jack long lost daughter. And Phyl finds out

bellc
11-05-2009, 09:31 PM
Belic, you mean Faith's paternity results, right? ;) Don't go opening the "Summer is Jack's" can of worms. I think we've gone a whole month without a thread with that title.

Sorry, Yes I meant Faith

BYHOPE1113
11-05-2009, 09:34 PM
SarahSue....I think you might be onto something there. It's definately a possibility.:clap:

Theresa_Fan
11-05-2009, 11:32 PM
Daniel & Amber wedding :x Um, why would Faith not be Nick's? Too many hints already.

I bet MJ will say you slept with Jack and I will tell Nick >:}

soapnutty55
11-05-2009, 11:38 PM
I'm a Phick fan and I want this secret to come out because Nick doesn't have a leg to stand on. Nick had broken Phyllis's heart and left his family and was across town in bed with his pregnant mistress.

Phyllis up to that point hadn't slept with or kissed another man.

I'm hoping for Nick to feel some real pain from this because had he kept his butt at home with his family instead of going back to the past Summer would of never got hurt.

But then again, Philly doesn't want to lose the loser she is married too so she is going to dodge that bullet for as long as possible. If Phyllis is so smart and strong, why doesn't she dump Nick for someone of her equal. I think I know why...1) the so called great sex with Nick and 2) the so called sex with Nick and..... That pretty much says it.:]:]:D:D

danberforever
11-06-2009, 12:49 AM
Yay!

Daniel & Amber are getting married

Now MAB either backburn them after the wedding, or give them an actual MATURE storyline.

I have lost interest in them since early 2009 hopefully a good storyline will change my mind. but I am glad they are getting married. :x

rjb
11-06-2009, 02:33 AM
I'm a Phick fan and I want this secret to come out because Nick doesn't have a leg to stand on. Nick had broken Phyllis's heart and left his family and was across town in bed with his pregnant mistress.

Phyllis up to that point hadn't slept with or kissed another man.

I'm hoping for Nick to feel some real pain from this because had he kept his butt at home with his family instead of going back to the past Summer would of never got hurt.

I so agree! It shouldn't matter if it comes out that Jack and Phyllis "comforted" each other one night while their spouses were shacked up together happily awaiting the cottage with the white picket fence and a happily ever after with new baby predicted by Cassie.
Nick had no intention of coming back to Phyllis at that time, so by my way of thinking she had every right to do whatever she wanted.

BreEMI
11-06-2009, 02:42 AM
Amber & Daniel wedding ~ wonder how long it will be before separation or infidelity or divorce s/l will be written for them?

Phyl & MJ ~ could be interesting

More air times, possibly, for Lauren, could be good ~ it'll be great to see someone other than the ususals

PoutineQueen
11-06-2009, 04:37 AM
omg CONGRATS DANBER! :x
wonder what it is that Phyllis will find out about Patty...better be something good ant not obvious

obxocean
11-06-2009, 08:48 AM
I hope so!!!!

Phyllis always likes to sweep her own adultery under the rug. I hope MJ wraps Phyllis in that rug and sends it rolling.

I love it!!! You are so right! We can always hope that Phyllis' deeds would be brought out in the open!

JTRules1
11-06-2009, 09:18 AM
^^^Well Damberfan I hope you enjoy watching your favourite couple, you got your christmas wish at last, a Damber wedding lucky you.;)

I will be FULLY enjoying Damber getting Married FINALLY!!!!:xToo!:clap::x:x

Shasha2
11-06-2009, 09:25 AM
This won't be one of Phyllis favorite weeks :]

First her sons wedding and then finding out something about MJ :o

:]:]:] You got that right !

valleycliffe
11-06-2009, 09:33 AM
I so agree! It shouldn't matter if it comes out that Jack and Phyllis "comforted" each other one night while their spouses were shacked up together happily awaiting the cottage with the white picket fence and a happily ever after with new baby predicted by Cassie.
Nick had no intention of coming back to Phyllis at that time, so by my way of thinking she had every right to do whatever she wanted.

i agree to disagree. i think it is as important for phyllis" boinking jack on the marital couch as it was for when sharon and beorge were outed BY PHYLLIS for their ons. if it was important for sharon, it is important for phyl. same type of circumstances don't you think? after all, when sharon and beorge had sex, nick was happily boinking phyllis.

JTRules1
11-06-2009, 10:50 AM
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Phillip might be leaving GC!

So does this mean chance will be okay??:-\:-S

Soapgurl37
11-06-2009, 01:29 PM
i agree to disagree. i think it is as important for phyllis" boinking jack on the marital couch as it was for when sharon and beorge were outed BY PHYLLIS for their ons. if it was important for sharon, it is important for phyl. same type of circumstances don't you think? after all, when sharon and beorge had sex, nick was happily boinking phyllis.

Not the same at all since Nick and Sharon were working on rebuilding their marriage. Nick and Phyllis weren't seeing each other during that time and Sharon had told Nick that she was willing to try and work on their marriage again in fact the next day Sharon came home and slept with Nick on the floor in front of the fireplace.

In this situation with Phyllis Nick had packed a suitcase and said they were over and he was going back to Sharon, In fact he brought up divorce to her. There was no any indication he was staying in the marriage.

I don't believe Phyllis owes him a damn thing when he was across town sexing up his pregnant mistress. But as a Phick fan I want this out there so Nick can feel some pain and know that Phyllis slept with another man.

SuNi_Ks
11-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Maybe he has to return to Australia to tie up loose ends.

When Phillip returns ... it would be great if he brought along someone he thinks is a "special guy" ...






The only thing I can think of that would shock Phyllis .. would be finding out that Patty's pregnant with Jack's child ...

Hopefully it is that she saw Jack and Phyllis doing the tacky couch mambo and that is why she targeted Phyllis and that is how Summer got involved! :]:]:]:]

It will be awsome if Patty and Phyllis are both knocked up by Jackie!! :o

elilzabeth
11-07-2009, 10:09 AM
Daniel & Amber wedding :x Um, why would Faith not be Nick's? Too many hints already.

I bet MJ will say you slept with Jack and I will tell Nick >:}

Patty is delusional 95% of the time. All Phyllis and Jack have to do is say she's nuts and this is more of her Jack obsession.

JadedCanuck
11-07-2009, 11:18 AM
I hope so!!!!

Phyllis always likes to sweep her own adultery under the rug. I hope MJ wraps Phyllis in that rug and sends it rolling.

Hardly what you call adultery, her husband was already playing house with his ex at the GCAC.

Soapgurl37
11-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Hardly what you call adultery, her husband was already playing house with his ex at the GCAC.

That's what I seem to remember too. Nick packed a bag told Phyllis it was over talked about divorce and the settlement for it and left to be with Sharon.

Also lets not forget at the moment Phyllis turned to Jack Nick was sleeping with Sharon and he stayed with Sharon for weeks before coming back home to Phyllis.

Dancer 88
11-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Amber and Daniel Married? interesting the writers are going to persue a great S/l for them! LOL

Red and Pattie go at it,, still not used to her playing a double,, but as we know Y&R love to do it to us!'

Nice not seeing TEVN around!

TY for spoliers!:clap::clap:

ILOVEJM
11-07-2009, 08:50 PM
funny thing about Phylli's memeory, she was Nick's pregnant mistress at one time, she was not too upset when Nick was in bed with her when he was married to Sharon

Damberrocks
11-07-2009, 09:46 PM
Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Daniel and Amber's wedding day arrives and I couldn't be happier! I have been waiting for this news for so long! THANK YOU SO MUCH! :x:x:x:x

ITA! Now we just have to wait for the Damber baby! I am sure he/she will be adorable. :D

Soapgurl37
11-07-2009, 10:52 PM
funny thing about Phylli's memeory, she was Nick's pregnant mistress at one time, she was not too upset when Nick was in bed with her when he was married to Sharon

I'm sorry I'm confused by your comment because Phyllis has forgiven Nick and even married him a 3rd time. :-?

Nick is the one that I think will be upset when he finds out Phyllis slept with Jack until he is quickly reminded of what he was doing at that exact time with Sharon.

Lrla
11-08-2009, 03:26 PM
Thank you for posting

YRRanger
11-09-2009, 01:23 AM
Hardly what you call adultery, her husband was already playing house with his ex at the GCAC.

It's doesn't matter if Nick was already playing house with his ex. Phyllis was still married. Adultery is adultery.



That's what I seem to remember too. Nick packed a bag told Phyllis it was over talked about divorce and the settlement for it and left to be with Sharon.

Also lets not forget at the moment Phyllis turned to Jack Nick was sleeping with Sharon and he stayed with Sharon for weeks before coming back home to Phyllis.

Phyllis was still married... so it's still adultery. That's all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less.

MizzFan
11-09-2009, 07:28 AM
I hope so!!!!

Phyllis always likes to sweep her own adultery under the rug. I hope MJ wraps Phyllis in that rug and sends it rolling.

What adultery is Phyllis trying to sweep under the rug. When she slept with Jack it sure was not adultery. Nick had left her. She owed him nothing at that point. He was busy doing his sleazy ex. He has no right to even comment about her doing Jack.B-)

Phyllis was still married... so it's still adultery. That's all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less.

I disagree totally. It was Nick who committed adultery. Phyllis slept with jack AFTER Nick ended their marriage and was with that tramp Sharon.

Popforbreakfast
11-09-2009, 09:18 AM
Well, technically, she was still married.

I'm more interested in knowing why she wasn't forthcoming about it. Granted, Nick's behavior was far worse, but still, she's setting herself up for a whole bunch of his self righteous indignation. Assuming he ever finds out.

YRRanger
11-09-2009, 11:02 AM
^^^
Very true. Thanks Pop.

I'm wondering where this will go myself?

Since, Nick and Sharon were already shacking up... I'm curious to why the still-married Phyllis didn't just own up to her adulterous one-night romp with Jack on the couch? It's not like Nick has a leg to stand on... so why is Phyllis not honest being honest with Nick? Does Phyllis think that Nick will leave her (once again) if Nick finds out she (Phyllis) too decided to sleep with someone else, too?

I just wish this would end with Phyllis dumping Nick and Sharon not wanting Nick back. After years of Nick always having someone to lean on or go to (emotionally and sexually) it would be poetic if neither woman wanted him in the end.

valleycliffe
11-09-2009, 11:09 AM
IMO, phyl doesn't want nick to find out about her boinking jack on the tacky house marital couch cause NICK THINKS phyl was waiting at home for him to come back to her. NICK THINKS she was never giving up on their marriage and was fighting to save it. NICK THINKS that phyllis is true blue devoted to only him and their dotter...... phyl doesn't want nick to know that she isn't:-{:rolleyes:

BYHOPE1113
11-09-2009, 11:13 AM
And you know it is going to come out:] Patty won't keep that secret, but I can see her torturing Phyllis with it.

GGregg
11-09-2009, 11:30 AM
Judging from the actual wording of the spoiler, I dont think its Jack and Phyllis sex thats the secret that will "change everything"

I could see if Phyl;is was still harping on the Sharon/Nick affair, but she isnt so I am not sure what consequences it will have for anybody, Nick dumped her, and it still doesnt absolved Patty from what she did to Summer.

Maybe she tells her about Adam hiding her outon the Ranch or she messed with the paternity results.

bluzmama
11-09-2009, 02:09 PM
I'm no Red fan but frankly I don't blame her and Jack for their boink. Their spouses were divorcing them and looking for houses together. They were both in a lot of pain. Jack owes Nick absolutely nothing since Nick cheated with two of Jack's wives, and if anything Red should refuse to even discuss her ONS with her cheating, lying pig of a hubby.

Brigette912
11-09-2009, 03:03 PM
I so agree! It shouldn't matter if it comes out that Jack and Phyllis "comforted" each other one night while their spouses were shacked up together happily awaiting the cottage with the white picket fence and a happily ever after with new baby predicted by Cassie.
Nick had no intention of coming back to Phyllis at that time, so by my way of thinking she had every right to do whatever she wanted.

Hey RJB!!!! :) Good to see you here!

I totally agree with this. Nick basically moved out that night, her and Nick were over. I would love for Nick to find out. I just want Phyllis and Nick to be over already, lol. Phyllis deserves better than that loser!

sab980
11-09-2009, 04:21 PM
And you know it is going to come out:] Patty won't keep that secret, but I can see her torturing Phyllis with it.


I hope she does torture her with since Phyllis black mailed Brad and Sharon for their ONS. I hope Hag gets the taste of her own medicine for once and maybe then maybe she may stay out other's business and then again this Phyllis we are talking about here.

nikki1
11-09-2009, 04:24 PM
Finally Daniel knows what to do that's right....He has grown up and I am so happy for Amber..I really love her anyway...Wonder if Murphy and Kay will give her away.....So happy for you Danberfan.....I knew it would happen, I never lost faith in them...I would have kicked his butt this time if he let her get away........forgive my manners..Thank you for the spoilers........

HeartsAFlutter
11-09-2009, 07:19 PM
IMO, phyl doesn't want nick to find out about her boinking jack on the tacky house marital couch cause NICK THINKS phyl was waiting at home for him to come back to her. NICK THINKS she was never giving up on their marriage and was fighting to save it. NICK THINKS that phyllis is true blue devoted to only him and their dotter...... phyl doesn't want nick to know that she isn't:-{:rolleyes:

DING DING DING DING! We have a winner. That's exactly why she's hiding it from Nick.

LAB765
11-09-2009, 08:26 PM
Thanks for the warning; we'll need to brace ourselves for the tacky, trampy wedding outfit Amber will probably be wearing.

YRRanger
11-09-2009, 11:46 PM
Nick and Phyllis are such a loving devoted couple. He sleeps with Sharon. Phyllis sleeps with Jack. Truly beautiful. Nick and Phyllis are so in love! :rolleyes:

Valleycliffe - you really nailed it. Great job!!!!

rjb
11-10-2009, 02:09 AM
I'm no Red fan but frankly I don't blame her and Jack for their boink. Their spouses were divorcing them and looking for houses together. They were both in a lot of pain. Jack owes Nick absolutely nothing since Nick cheated with two of Jack's wives, and if anything Red should refuse to even discuss her ONS with her cheating, lying pig of a hubby.

I feel the same way. Idon't blame Phyllis or Jack for what happened that night. As far as Phyllis knew, Nick was gone for good and wanted a divorce. He moved in with Sharon. However, I would have told Nick, if I were Phyllis. Not because I didn't want him to find it out later and be upset but because I would have wanted him to know that I wasn't sitting home holding a wake for my defunct marriage.

Hey RJB!!!! :) Good to see you here!

I totally agree with this. Nick basically moved out that night, her and Nick were over. I would love for Nick to find out. I just want Phyllis and Nick to be over already, lol. Phyllis deserves better than that loser!

Hey Brigette!~ Good to see you here, too! I also agree that Phyllis deserves better than wishy-washy Nick. Phyllis doesn't need to accept anyone who doesn't hold her first in his heart.

bkchic
11-10-2009, 04:58 PM
I hope so!!!!

Phyllis always likes to sweep her own adultery under the rug. I hope MJ wraps Phyllis in that rug and sends it rolling.
MMmm hmm...That's the only thing that makes sense. WTH else could Patti say to rock Red's world :-\Other than her switching Sharon's baby daddy paternity test (which I doubt). I knew Red's romp with Jacko would come back to haunt her. And she thought they could keep it on the low :-7

pepper55
11-10-2009, 05:22 PM
Belic, you mean Faith's paternity results, right? ;) Don't go opening the "Summer is Jack's" can of worms. I think we've gone a whole month without a thread with that title.

Exactly! But on yesterdays show (I think it was yesterday) when Jack was talking to Patty/Mary Jane's Dr. - and he was explaining about how things happened with Summer... he said, "that little girls smile lights up the room", something to that effect. I thought uh-oh, I wondered if these little things here and there are building up to the fact that Summer is Jacks!

valleycliffe
11-10-2009, 05:37 PM
^ awwww, jackie recognized his own smile cause his lights up the room too :]:]:]:]

jackie loves his lil sweetpea :x

sab980
11-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Thanks for the warning; we'll need to brace ourselves for the tacky, trampy wedding outfit Amber will probably be wearing.


or the one mother- In-law will be wearing and her it case it will be black as how she will be feeling when Amber becomes Mrs.:]

YRRanger
11-10-2009, 11:57 PM
Exactly! But on yesterdays show (I think it was yesterday) when Jack was talking to Patty/Mary Jane's Dr. - and he was explaining about how things happened with Summer... he said, "that little girls smile lights up the room", something to that effect. I thought uh-oh, I wondered if these little things here and there are building up to the fact that Summer is Jacks!

I thought the same thing too. The word "smile" was the key word (on so many levels). Smiling Jack is Summer's father... it's just a matter of time.

I know people say this will never happen. I know MAB states it isn't on her agenda. However, I'm not buying it.

Jack lit up like a Christmas tree when talking about Summer's smile. He suddenly forgot all about Delia's smile.

I call Jack's scene: foreshadowing.

I can totally see Nick lying that he was Summer's father. He wanted to replace Cassie so badly... that he convinced himself he was the father... knowing that Jack really is.

Also, Nick didn't seem to have much of a problem leaving Summer for Sharon's unborn baby (a few months ago). I think it was more than just leaving Phyllis for Sharon... it was a package deal... he was leaving Phyllis and Summer (not his biological daughter) for Sharon and "Faith" (his biological daughter). JMO... and I'm sticking with it.

Holly99
11-11-2009, 12:29 AM
I call Jack's scene: foreshadowing.

So do I ............ ;)

lightandday
11-11-2009, 07:38 AM
DING DING DING DING! We have a winner. That's exactly why she's hiding it from Nick.

LMAO that is Good I think you have a winner with this alone.. I really do:]:]

Brigette912
11-11-2009, 11:28 AM
YRRanger -I know people say this will never happen. I know MAB states it isn't on her agenda. However, I'm not buying it.

Jack lit up like a Christmas tree when talking about Summer's smile. He suddenly forgot all about Delia's smile.

I call Jack's scene: foreshadowing.



Please, Please, PLEASE let you be right. :) That is the one thing I have wanted from day one when Phyllis found out she was pregnant. For Jack to be Summer's Father. Like you said, I know many here say that isn't happening...but I keep hoping. Peter Bergman was asked about the speculation that Jack is Summer's Dad in the latest SID and he said "the theory is not lost on me".

Corlitto
11-11-2009, 12:37 PM
This spoiler doesn't sound anything like Phack couch sex or baby paternity.

Maybe MJ will be the link between Phyllis and the new teenage redhead.

Soapcentral phrases the spoiler a little differently: "The truth about Patty has a profound effect on Phyllis". There is obviously something none of us knows about Patty.

Karlie
11-11-2009, 10:33 PM
I don't think the Patty Revelation has anything to do with any paternity switch where Faith is concerned; she's definitely Nick's baby girl. :)

It would make the most sense that Patty tells her that she knows about her little sex romp with Jack on the tacky room couch, as Phyllis thinks only her and Jack know about it. Imagine her surprise if Patty reveals she saw the whole thing through the window and threatens to reveal it to Nicky boy? Even though Phyllis would justify her romp with Jack due to Nick leaving her that night, I think she'd still worry about Nick finding out. Should be interesting.

nikki1
11-12-2009, 07:23 AM
That little girls smile lights up a room.........I think that was a dead give away..Who else's smile lights up a room.....I think that little girls daddy is Jackie.......................This show loves those hidden little meanings.......OMG, I saw it and just shook my head.....but I am a believer after that little slip

Popforbreakfast
11-12-2009, 11:17 AM
more...

Jack pursues his dream - getting Jabot back - via the CI stock
Jack is thwarted in his pursuit of the CI stocks
Kay knows what Jack is up to and blocks him
Jack comes up with a plan - get Nick to buy it for him, using NE as a blind
Jack uses Nick's ego as a pry tool, telling him they were both destined to be CEOs of their daddy's empires


As previously posted in a thread down the board...

Cane wants to go back to Australia to fight the cow mafia, but Phillip volunteers to go in his stead, keeping his true purpose a secret from Nina and Chance

Shan2133
11-12-2009, 11:21 AM
*sigh* Jack continues to use the people he "loves".....

Lily and Cane's love is nothing but a joke to me now. At every chance he tries to leave her.....smh


Thanks Pop!

JTRules1
11-12-2009, 11:41 AM
Any word on Chance?:-S

Y&ROn&Off
11-12-2009, 12:31 PM
This Phillip/Cane thing is so....:rolleyes:. The cow stuff is so :rolleyes:.

restlessman
11-12-2009, 01:21 PM
At the risk of getting tomatoes thrown at me here....why in the world does everyone seem to care more about Cane than they care about their own kids? I know, I know...Cane's a 'helluva' guy and all....and as far as soap schemes go, his is forgiveable and redeemable...but I'm just a little annoyed by his sainthood, and the fact everyone (save Billy) sort of bows at his feet. We even got Neil coming around from his deception....way too quickly. We got Jill rushing to the hospital and dropping everything for him when we haven't seen her reach out to Billy in months....and now we have Phillip....who just walked back into his son's life after allowing him to think he was dead for years, wormed his way back into having a relationship with him despite Chance's skepticism...and on top of this just watched that son almost lose his life....and now he's going to leave town AGAIN to sort out Cane's cow mafia problems? Seriously....give me a break.

It's pretty ridiculous...and all though I'm sure they'll dress it up in a way that Chance is okay with it....it's really NOT okay. Phillip needs to let 'the Australian sleeping pill" (thanks for that fitting nickname Chloe) take care of his OWN cow mafia problems (if he doesn't want to leave Lily, he can find another proxy), and work on making a whole LIFETIME up to his recovering son.

I wanted more Chance/Phillip bonding and building a broken relationship...what I get is no Phillip, and more of Cane and his sickengly syrupy sweet romance with his whiney wife. Ugh. Like that couple needs anymore screentime.

Shan2133
11-12-2009, 01:24 PM
^^^^I completely agree with this.
While Philip has not impressed me since he's been back, I'd rather them develop a story for him and try to connect with his son rather than not try at all.

Popforbreakfast
11-12-2009, 03:30 PM
more, via the SOD Insider email...

Tues - Kay thinks Jill is being untruthful with her and ponders what Jill might be up to
Wed - Phyllis is gobstruck by something Patty tells her (or is instrumental in some other way in Phyllis finding out whatever this is). This something could be earth shaking, mindblowing, and otherwise really... hyped up.

RestlessFan
11-12-2009, 03:42 PM
ITA: that the writers are missing a chance to really write better emotional scenes for Chance and his father Phillip reconnecting for all the lost years. What's with the Jill showing more empathy for Cane than her own son, Billy, or the return of her long lost son, Phillip? There wasn't enough scenes for Jill and Phillip reconnecting, too. I remember Jill mourning for her son Phillip at the time and she acts like its nothing now that he's returned. I think the Lily and Cane thingy has run its course and now the writers are grasping at straws to continue it by using Mackensie as a prop now to carry a child for them.

Brigette912
11-12-2009, 04:07 PM
What the heck does Patty tell Phyllis?! This one is driving me nuts #-o:]

qjilla28
11-12-2009, 04:23 PM
Maybe Patty tells Phyllis she gave Jack an STD and Phyllis should be calling her doctor!! :D

Holly99
11-12-2009, 04:25 PM
The whole Cane/Phillip/cattle rustling storyline was a joke from day one.

MAB brought Phillip back knowing he was a legacy character .. only to blow apart viewers memories of who Phillip was
20 years ago & then totally abandoned the character.

All the hype & fanfare about having a gay character on Y&R .. & .. MAB saying there'd be more than one gay character in Genoa City was a pile of crap.

Phillip revealing he was gay & Rafe appearing once every three months is not what I consider "having a gay character" on Y&R to mean.

Talk about cowardly .... it's been a total disgrace and IMO .. MAB should hang her head in shame.

Other than telling us Phillip ran a bar in Australia ... absolutely nothing was written for viewers to know what Phillip's life had been like in Australia during the past 20 years.

Next to nothing was written to show viewers how Phillip's relationships with his family & friends have been going since he returned & now ... all of a sudden ... we get a bums rush week of drivel which will send Phillip back to Australia.

It's disgusting & IMO ... MAB has done a great disservice to Thom Bierdz, "Phillip" .. & .. Y&R.

LadyEnid
11-12-2009, 05:07 PM
You know, I think it's very funny that people sit and blame the writers like they have 100% control over the show.

Case in point, EB, the negotiations went south, Sony told the writers to write him out. The writers were rewriting stories to get him out of town.

So what's not to say that Sony didn't like the feedback they're getting from bringing Phillip back, never letting the writers really write for the character and bring any kind of "real" storyline to fruition.

I mean seriously based on everything I've read the actors have nothing but love for the writers and their visions...and then things go south. So I truly think it's not the writers, it's Sony weilding its ugly sword dictating things to the writers.

sweetpea789
11-12-2009, 05:42 PM
more...

Jack comes up with a plan - get Nick to buy it for him, using NE as a blind
Jack uses Nick's ego as a pry tool, telling him they were both destined to be CEOs of their daddy's empires




Has "The Dumb One" not learned anything from his last experience of running NE while Victor was on one of his quests for peace? Jack and Brad whispering in his ear resulted in their picture hanging on the wall in Victor's office while taking over and running Victor's company!:rolleyes:

Jack's plans always, always, fail. Jack may be trying to get Jabot back but you can best believe that he has an ulterior motive to stick it to Victor at the same time. And dummy Nick will be left holding the bag.....maybe he should have Adam write a memo about how that worked out for him.

Lazlo
11-12-2009, 05:45 PM
more, via the SOD Insider email...

Tues - Kay thinks Jill is being untruthful with her and ponders what Jill might be up to
Wed - Phyllis is gobstruck by something Patty tells her (or is instrumental in some other way in Phyllis finding out whatever this is). This something could be earth shaking, mindblowing, and otherwise really... hyped up.

I really hope the people in charge of the direction of this show feel awful everyday about what they've done to a show that was once great. Everything I read about the such is just awful. Just when I think things can't get any worse, they do. The whole MJ/Patty storyline was a complete fail/waste of time despite the amazing acting and a lot of killer scenes/reveals. I just wish it had never happened. I haven't watched the show in weeks and these spoilers don't inspire any desire to tune back in. I just hope I can resist the urge to every get hooked on this show again. I'm sick of American soaps. Rinse repeat recycle is the name of the game and they can't break the cycle.

compgirl
11-12-2009, 06:12 PM
I betcha Amber will not shut up doing their vows. Thanks for the heads up because I will pass on that days shows.

Emmeline
11-12-2009, 06:53 PM
At the risk of getting tomatoes thrown at me here....why in the world does everyone seem to care more about Cane than they care about their own kids? I know, I know...Cane's a 'helluva' guy and all....and as far as soap schemes go, his is forgiveable and redeemable...but I'm just a little annoyed by his sainthood, and the fact everyone (save Billy) sort of bows at his feet. We even got Neil coming around from his deception....way too quickly. We got Jill rushing to the hospital and dropping everything for him when we haven't seen her reach out to Billy in months....and now we have Phillip....who just walked back into his son's life after allowing him to think he was dead for years, wormed his way back into having a relationship with him despite Chance's skepticism...and on top of this just watched that son almost lose his life....and now he's going to leave town AGAIN to sort out Cane's cow mafia problems? Seriously....give me a break.

It's pretty ridiculous...and all though I'm sure they'll dress it up in a way that Chance is okay with it....it's really NOT okay. Phillip needs to let 'the Australian sleeping pill" (thanks for that fitting nickname Chloe) take care of his OWN cow mafia problems (if he doesn't want to leave Lily, he can find another proxy), and work on making a whole LIFETIME up to his recovering son.

I wanted more Chance/Phillip bonding and building a broken relationship...what I get is no Phillip, and more of Cane and his sickengly syrupy sweet romance with his whiney wife. Ugh. Like that couple needs anymore screentime.

Thank you! I couldn't have worded or said it any better!!!! All so true. I swear the writers deliberately write things this twisted simply to rile their viewers.

I am really sick of parents putting Cane above their own children. GMA frickin' break. :rolleyes:

soapaddict87
11-12-2009, 06:54 PM
love Jack scheming again, but I dont get why Kay doesnt just let him run the company for once.

no comment on the cow stupidity:rolleyes:

Restlessgirl
11-12-2009, 07:34 PM
more, via the SOD Insider email...

Wed - Phyllis is gobstruck by something Patty tells her (or is instrumental in some other way in Phyllis finding out whatever this is). This something could be earth shaking, mindblowing, and otherwise really... hyped up.
There was a rumor that Patty tell Phyllis something that changes her life, so i guess it isn't a rumor anymore its true.

gcorsentino
11-13-2009, 12:55 AM
If Patti tells Phyllis that she saw her with Jack during the two minute trist then Phyllis, who has blamed this woman and Victor for what happened to her daughter may be overwhelmed with guilt about what happened. She will blame herself for what happened to her daughter and it may shake her to the core. She may believe that she isn't a good mother and she may go into an emotional tailspin over it. I hope that is not the case because she is not the cause of what happened to Summer at all. The writers, however, could very well write it this way. I can't imagine what else would be so earth shattering other than maybe this is just a very exaggerated spoiler. I find that alot them are lately and some of them never happen at all.

Popforbreakfast
11-13-2009, 06:54 PM
Dailies

M - Lauren gets a creepy present, Billy has a flash of insight re: the mess he's made, Kevin takes the job

T - Adam blocks Sharon from getting too close to her baby, Jack and Nick shake hands on a deal, Kay wonders what Jill is up to

W - Patty blows Phyl's mind, Nina finds Chance and Chloe in the sack, Phillip reveals his Australian plans

Th - Chance says bye bye to his Daddy, Lily depends heavily on Mackenzie, Kevin comes to a decision

F - Nick walks away from Jack, Chloe finds something, Emily has the wool pulled over her eyes

smaverick1
11-13-2009, 07:04 PM
Thanks Pop. :)

I hope Chloe finds the signed divorce papers that Billy "forgot" to file and tears him a new one. With his relationship with Mac spiralling down the drain, I can see him trying to throw roadblocks in Chloe/Chance's way.

Redsy
11-13-2009, 07:08 PM
W - Nina finds Chance and Chloe in the sack
Oh my! I can't wait to see Nina's head explode! :]

DeeMarie
11-13-2009, 07:20 PM
WOW...so Virgin Chance held out for a whole week after Chloe declares her feelings?? :] Sigh...she must be the one...

Bye Phillip! What was the point of tiic even bringing him back on?

Adam PLEASE...just give Sharon her baby back!

Does Kay have nothing better to do than worry about Jill...geez!

Thanks Pop!

catalina
11-13-2009, 08:33 PM
^^^Chance is still recovering from surgery. So I doubt Chance and Chloe have sex next week. But seeing Nina's face when she discovers them in bed together will be fun :]:]. She is gonna lose her mind!!

The writers completely screwed up P3's return. He hardly interacted with Jill or Kay. He had a couple of scenes with his brother Billy. They didn't do his reunion with Chance justice. I still don't get the deep bond of friendship with Cane. What was he doing for the last twenty years?? His return was an epic fail on the writers part.

Unfortunately it appears like they are going to drag this Adam and Sharon story line out forever. She needs her kid...like NOW!

ssalley2
11-13-2009, 10:22 PM
Phillip might be leaving GC!
Phyliss learns something about MJ that shocks her!



I hope Phyllis leaving is not a joke because my hopes are up:clap:

Soapgurl37
11-13-2009, 10:42 PM
I thought the same thing too. The word "smile" was the key word (on so many levels). Smiling Jack is Summer's father... it's just a matter of time.

I know people say this will never happen. I know MAB states it isn't on her agenda. However, I'm not buying it.

Jack lit up like a Christmas tree when talking about Summer's smile. He suddenly forgot all about Delia's smile.

I call Jack's scene: foreshadowing.

I can totally see Nick lying that he was Summer's father. He wanted to replace Cassie so badly... that he convinced himself he was the father... knowing that Jack really is.

Also, Nick didn't seem to have much of a problem leaving Summer for Sharon's unborn baby (a few months ago). I think it was more than just leaving Phyllis for Sharon... it was a package deal... he was leaving Phyllis and Summer (not his biological daughter) for Sharon and "Faith" (his biological daughter). JMO... and I'm sticking with it.

Nick is Summer's father. The writers have all made a point to say how Summer looks like Nick and it was said by 3 different people that wouldn't lie Lily, Sharon and Victoria. Even Nick said she looked like him when he came back with amnesia and didn't want to be with Phyllis.

Not sure how some can believe that Faith is Nick's based on those same comments but when the samething was said about Summer then she isn't Nick's. IMO if that's the case then Faith isn't Nick's either and is an Abbott. Faith patnerity is the only one that seemed weird since we had a nut job like Patty around wanting to keep any woman from being around Jack. Patty had no problem hurting Summer and having Phyllis arrested and yet were to believe that she wouldn't have changed the test results to keep Jack from Sharon. We all saw the look on her face that day at the bar when Sharon told Jack he was the father.

californiagirlx
11-14-2009, 01:47 AM
What the....? Chance and Chloe are already sleeping together? I love them, but it didn't take long after they got together to jump in the sack. Kinda disappointed that their relationship is moving so fast, especially since Chance has already waited for so long, but I guess this was inevitable. This is a soap after all :rolleyes:

Cranky101
11-14-2009, 04:42 AM
Nick and Phyllis are such a loving devoted couple. He sleeps with Sharon. Phyllis sleeps with Jack. Truly beautiful. Nick and Phyllis are so in love! :rolleyes:

Aren't they? They are like SO totally cute together that it's like...Oh my Gawd! You just want to pour some chocolate syrup on them and eat them up! All love stories should be this romantic (and crowded). Truly inspiring. :clap: Who needs enemies when you have a husband like Nick. On one had he's got a women he has stale meaningless sex with and treats as his frat boy to pass time and play video games (and who could blame him, a lot of these games requires 2 players so I understand why he keeps Phyllis around), and on the other hand he's got a women he actually...loves and fantasizes spending the rest of his life with her. Life is grand for Phick, isn't it?

It's shocking Hollywood hasn't gotten its hands on this "love" story and made a movie on the charming couple.

JTRules1
11-14-2009, 09:04 AM
Thanks Pop. :)

I hope Chloe finds the signed divorce papers that Billy "forgot" to file and tears him a new one. With his relationship with Mac spiralling down the drain, I can see him trying to throw roadblocks in Chloe/Chance's way.

Well good...if she finds them...yeah i would LOVE to see her rip billy a new one!!!!:] Then...She can go file them herself!!!:clap: Why was billy left with that "responsibility" anyway?? We all know he is NOT capable of ANY responsible behavior...I think billy used chloe's "distraction" as a way to make sure that she was not the one who took the papers and filed them!! SO TYPICAL!!:rolleyes: I wish Billy would decide life is not worth it w/out Mac and find a cliff and take a flying leap!!! :]

JTRules1
11-14-2009, 09:07 AM
I hope Phyllis leaving is not a joke because my hopes are up:clap:

Ummm...it says "Phillip" NOT "Phyllis" might be leaving!!/:-} Although...i wish it WAS Phyllis!!!:]

JTRules1
11-14-2009, 09:09 AM
What the....? Chance and Chloe are already sleeping together? I love them, but it didn't take long after they got together to jump in the sack. Kinda disappointed that their relationship is moving so fast, especially since Chance has already waited for so long, but I guess this was inevitable. This is a soap after all :rolleyes:

Well...it says the are "in bed together" I guess we could assume they "slept" together...but then again...maybe they were about to when....dum..dum.DUMMMMM...they get interrupted by the "mama bear" herself!!! UGH!!!!:(

Popforbreakfast
11-14-2009, 09:16 AM
They could be reading Huck Finn to Delia for all we know right now.

One would hope they would put as much effort making Chance's first time a big, romantic occasion as they do for female characters.

JTRules1
11-14-2009, 09:21 AM
Right...exactly!!:) I just HATE how they have it worded originally UGH(i'm sure you saw it) And im sure that they worded it like that unpurpose because they KNEW the reaction it would get!!

Am i allowed to say how it was "originally" worded??:-? I didnt know...so that's why i didnt say it!

Popforbreakfast
11-14-2009, 09:43 AM
We can't c/p spoilers, but if you want to put "in bed" in quotes, briefly, that's OK. Like a fortune cookie. ;)

Or was there another word that caught your eye?

JTRules1
11-14-2009, 09:50 AM
^^^Mostly after that specifically friday...the original says about Chloe making a "Discovery"...c'mon tell me they didnt do that unpurpose!!:rolleyes: Eventhough i KNOW...its not what people are thinking....i could understand why people would think "that"#-o

Popforbreakfast
11-14-2009, 06:18 PM
http://www.soapcentral.com/yr/scoop.php

SOC spoilers are up :)

JTRules1
11-14-2009, 06:42 PM
Thanks for the spoilers pop!!:)

Lrla
11-14-2009, 08:47 PM
Thanks for the spoilers

Josslyn
11-14-2009, 11:45 PM
Oh my god, more with the cattle rustlers?

So much Nick and Jack BS this week too.

Overall sounds pretty boring. The only spoilers that intrigue me are that Chloe makes a discovery and Pattys revelation.

Phillip leaving again does not sit well with me. Bringing him back was a total waste if hes just going to abandon his family all over again.

lylia
11-15-2009, 07:28 AM
They could be reading Huck Finn to Delia for all we know right now.

One would hope they would put as much effort making Chance's first time a big, romantic occasion as they do for female characters.

Exactly, they might as well have spend the night laying in the bed and nothing happened.

Y&ROn&Off
11-15-2009, 12:04 PM
Sounds like another boring week! (:|

cruiser99
11-16-2009, 08:09 AM
Later in the week (Friday) it says Emily is tricked.

Hmm....does that mean Patty really isn't sick or somehow Patty tricks Emily and switches places with her?:D

YRRanger
11-16-2009, 11:51 AM
YRRanger -I know people say this will never happen. I know MAB states it isn't on her agenda. However, I'm not buying it.

Jack lit up like a Christmas tree when talking about Summer's smile. He suddenly forgot all about Delia's smile.

I call Jack's scene: foreshadowing.



Please, Please, PLEASE let you be right. :) That is the one thing I have wanted from day one when Phyllis found out she was pregnant. For Jack to be Summer's Father. Like you said, I know many here say that isn't happening...but I keep hoping. Peter Bergman was asked about the speculation that Jack is Summer's Dad in the latest SID and he said "the theory is not lost on me".


I'd bet money that Summer will turn out to be Jack's daughter... and it will happen when Jack and Emily prepare to get married (sometime in 2010). Jack and Emily will be all set to tie the knot and then suddenly Jack will find out that Summer is his daughter and Phyllis has dumped Nick. 2010 will be Emily/Jack/Phyllis... and Summer will be Jack's daughter. JMO.

carollk
11-16-2009, 12:20 PM
Did Phyllis ever actually see those DNA results herself? The way I remember it, she handed them to Nick without even looking at them and Nick took off and returned saying the baby was his. I don't necessarily think this is where they are going, but I remember at the time thinking that the writers seemed to be giving themselves the option of changing the paternity at a future date. I thought it was truly unbelievable that Phyllis would hand the results over to anyone without looking at them herself. I would never have done that.

valleycliffe
11-16-2009, 12:24 PM
^did phyl give him the results? i thought he got them from the courier while in his office. cause if phyl got them first, who's to say she didn't look at them (off screen >:}) before she gave them to him. or even change them ;). it's not like she hadn't done it before.

carollk
11-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Wow. I didn't actually see the episode. What I described, I read in a Soap Opera Digest synopsis. If Nick actually received the results by courier, SOD really got it wrong, which wouldn't be the first time. But I've had a completely incorrect idea of what happened all this time.

Shan2133
11-16-2009, 01:08 PM
^did phyl give him the results? i thought he got them from the courier while in his office. cause if phyl got them first, who's to say she didn't look at them (off screen >:}) before she gave them to him. or even change them ;). it's not like she hadn't done it before.
I don't think Phyllis touched the results. They were addressed to Nick and went straight to Newman to him.

smaverick1
11-16-2009, 01:11 PM
Nick then skipped town without telling or showing Phyllis or Sharon the results. The only confirmation either woman got about him being Summer's father was Nick's word upon his return to GC.

The only way someone could've messed with the results is if they got to the lab computers. Don't see how this would involve Patty. Like Miss. Fruit Loop would've had the wherewithall to change them herself or to know anything about the issue.

Lavender1
11-16-2009, 01:16 PM
What the....? Chance and Chloe are already sleeping together? I love them, but it didn't take long after they got together to jump in the sack. Kinda disappointed that their relationship is moving so fast, especially since Chance has already waited for so long, but I guess this was inevitable. This is a soap after all :rolleyes:
I seriously doubt Chloe and Chance will be having sex this week. The man just got out of the hospital. He had surgery and was stabbed. It is possible for two people to lay in bed together and even sleep without having sex.

Thanks Pop. :)

I hope Chloe finds the signed divorce papers that Billy "forgot" to file and tears him a new one. With his relationship with Mac spiralling down the drain, I can see him trying to throw roadblocks in Chloe/Chance's way.
Why do some people seem to think Billy was left with Chloe's divorce papers to file? From what I recall, after Chloe signed, Billy folded them up and then Chloe grabbed the envelope and put them in. And when she showed Chance the divorce papers, she had the photocopies implying that the originals had been filed. I don't understand where Billy filing the papers came to be the assumption.

L

JTRules1
11-16-2009, 01:21 PM
I seriously doubt Chloe and Chance will be having sex this week. The man just got out of the hospital. He had surgery and was stabbed. It is possible for two people to lay in bed together and even sleep without having sex.

L

Yeah i know!!:) Probably they are just laying there cuddling..and enter "mama bear" and...BOOM...all heck breaks loose!!:rolleyes: WTF??? doesnt anyone know how to knock before entering a room??? Oh well...i :x any scene with Chloe and Chance...so im sure this will be NO different...I hope Chance tells his overbearing mother to get the hell out!!!:clap:

Leia
11-16-2009, 03:32 PM
CBS.com Newest Promo is now out, http://www.cbs.com/daytime/the_young_and_the_restless/video/video.php?cid=446415872&pid=Ek0GIpiZSbpdM_iX36YEhR1yVA8554u9&play=true&cc=3

Keith77
11-16-2009, 08:21 PM
Speculation and perhaps an up and coming spoiler!


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This week Jack goes to Nick about buying Chancellor stock for him and Nick is talked into it by Phyllis BUT on Friday Nick turns his back on Jack. Now, why? What happens? I have a theory. Patti tells Phyllis that she saw her and Jack having sex. Phyllis then decides to tell Nick. Nick is understanding and forgives his wife but he is pissed at Jack about it so on Friday turns his back on Jack.

Josslyn
11-16-2009, 08:23 PM
I can see this happening, even though its SO hypocritical of Nick, the King of cheating. Nick didn't give a crap how Jack might have been feeling when he was sleeping with the mans wife. :rolleyes:

SuzayQ
11-16-2009, 08:28 PM
^^ I agree but there hasn't been any blood loss between the two of them for some time now! I think it is payback and now they are even! However, Nick doesn't have to like Jack nor Jack like Nick...

Nick being hypocritical would be leaving Phyllis now after finding out since Phyllis never left him!

smaverick1
11-16-2009, 08:28 PM
How gracious of Ick to forgive Phyllis' indiscretion with Jack while he was shacking up at the GCAC with Sharon making plans for the future. He's quite the catch, isn't he? :]

Keith77
11-16-2009, 08:55 PM
Now, everyone.... calm down. I may be completely wrong about this. It's just a thought I had. It may be another reason Nick turns on Jack. The question is what?

Mike
11-16-2009, 09:12 PM
I think he turns his back on Jack because he wakes up one morning and realizes he made a deal with Jack! LOL

Holly99
11-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Now, everyone.... calm down. I may be completely wrong about this. It's just a thought I had. It may be another reason Nick turns on Jack. The question is what?

If it isn't Patty's revelation which prompts Nick to withdraw from his deal with Jack .. then I think it will be because Ashley
puts her finger in the pie & tells Nick something which unsettles him.

LancyPassion
11-16-2009, 09:47 PM
I'd love for Nick to know that Phyllis slept with another man. LOL!

YRRanger
11-16-2009, 10:41 PM
If it isn't Patty's revelation which prompts Nick to withdraw from his deal with Jack .. then I think it will be because Ashley
puts her finger in the pie & tells Nick something which unsettles him.




I'm going with your answer. I think Ashley has something to do with it.


I don't think Patty will get to Nick that fast (with anything she may or may not tell Phyllis).

Ashley is a sneaky one. :]

gcorsentino
11-16-2009, 10:43 PM
Speculation and perhaps an up and coming spoiler!


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This week Jack goes to Nick about buying Chancellor stock for him and Nick is talked into it by Phyllis BUT on Friday Nick turns his back on Jack. Now, why? What happens? I have a theory. Patti tells Phyllis that she saw her and Jack having sex. Phyllis then decides to tell Nick. Nick is understanding and forgives his wife but he is pissed at Jack about it so on Friday turns his back on Jack.


Thanks Keith for the spoiler. As boring as this is, it certainly would make sense. And I am glad that Nick finds out because this idiot was shacking up at the No-Tel Motel instead of being with his wife and child. Truth is, if anyone should feel any guilt over what happened with little Summer, it should be him. If he would have been at work that day with Phyllis instead of shacking up at the No-Tel Motel with the town trollop maybe it wouldn't have happened at all. I still don't understand why this is a big deal anyway. It was a one minute occurance and didn't really have anything to do with anything. I think it is really grabbing at straws and I don't think that the writers used any creativity doing this at all. I can think of so many interesting things that could have led to a much more intriguing storyline then telling Phyllis about her one minute trist with Jack. It kind of falls real flat, doesn't it?

NatNat04
11-16-2009, 11:08 PM
I hope Nick finds out. Serves him right since he just up and walked out on his wife and child to shack up with the trampy ex wife and ended up knocking her up. :[ I dont see any other reason why he'd be mad at Jack

SadieLadie
11-16-2009, 11:40 PM
I agree. I can't imagine that Nick would even care. That was ages ago and he's never been jealous where Phyllis is concerned; he's only jealous over Sharon. And I can't believe Phyllis would tell Nick. That's so NOT Phyllis to be honest.

hecuba365
11-17-2009, 12:06 AM
Spoilers say that our girl finds or uncovers something on Friday's episode, and she's surprised by her discovery. So what is it that takes our girl by surprise? I've done a poll with some ideas.

JBB1974
11-17-2009, 12:22 AM
I voted "other"

Maybe she discovers the world doesn't revolve around her.

MzMasani
11-17-2009, 12:25 AM
^^:clap::clap::clap:AAAAAAMEN!!

Josslyn
11-17-2009, 12:27 AM
I think Chloe has really grown in the last little while and definately doesnt think that the world revolves around her. She puts Delia first no matter what. Billy should be the one getting the wakeup call...

hecuba365
11-17-2009, 12:33 AM
I decided to vote for a possible glitch with those pesky divorce papers. I just get the feeling those papers are going to become characters themselves.:]

ivyserpent
11-17-2009, 12:50 AM
I don't think it has anything to do with the divorce papers. I think that Chance has a surprise for her. Billyu never gave her gifts or anything to show any kind of love or appreciation. I can see her going up to his room to get something for him since he is injured and discovers jewerly or something. Chance is new to this "boyfriend, girlfriend stuff" so it's only natural for him to try to show his love. His first time being a boyfriend, and her disrespect from billy, should prompt him to show that he loves her. If those pesky divorce papers were ever an issue, those would be brought up when billy has feelings for Chloe. Right now he doesn't. He is still reeling from his Mac loss.

hecuba365
11-17-2009, 01:08 AM
^^^Hmmmm, like maybe she stumbles upon an engagement ring? Might Chance be thinking of asking her to marry him?:-?

Gabby901
11-17-2009, 01:11 AM
I actually know what it is and it's that finds out about the Mac surrogacy but don't know how or from who she finds it out from

ivyserpent
11-17-2009, 01:13 AM
^^^Ha! You just want everything to happen super fast! They haven't even jumped in the sack for REAL. I actually can't wait for that, it's been waaaaay to long for Chloe. Chance needs to sex her up a little. The discovery could be anything. I am hoping it's something nice from Chance. Chloe would be surprised at that because she isn't used to it.

Josslyn
11-17-2009, 01:17 AM
I actually know what it is and it's that finds out about the Mac surrogacy but don't know how or from who she finds it out from

You might be right there! I never thought of that possibility before, but now I'm definately leaning in that direction. Whats your source if you don't mind me asking?:)

hecuba365
11-17-2009, 01:18 AM
^^^Ha! You just want everything to happen super fast! They haven't even jumped in the sack for REAL. I actually can't wait for that, it's been waaaaay to long for Chloe. Chance needs to sex her up a little. The discovery could be anything. I am hoping it's something nice from Chance. Chloe would be surprised at that because she isn't used to it.

I actually think things are happening SUPER SLOW between these two. A relationship moving slowly so they can get to know one another is one thing but this is D-R-A-G-G-I-N-G.I-) And again, it might be an engagement ring. That would be something nice from Chance wouldn't it?

ivyserpent
11-17-2009, 01:19 AM
I actually know what it is and it's that finds out about the Mac surrogacy but don't know how or from who she finds it out from
Well, I guess that makes sense. Well there goes my romantic plans for Chance. Maybe Mac tells her. I mean she is back in the house and around Delia. Mac was having some doubts after the meeting she had with Emily. Probably after seeing the baby, she will regain the "baby fever" and feel good about it. I don't want Chloe around Billy for awhile, especially during this friction between mac and billy. I guess it will be a good test if she is truly over Billy. Mac might tell her that she and Billy broke up because of it. Interesting.

hecuba365
11-17-2009, 01:22 AM
I actually know what it is and it's that finds out about the Mac surrogacy but don't know how or from who she finds it out from

So what are you saying, some mystery person or other source clues her in on the surrogacy. And why exactly would Chloe be interested in this? I suppose Chloe's interest might be that she can move even closer to Billy while Mac becomes more intertwined with Cane and Lily.>:}

kaylay123
11-17-2009, 01:24 AM
Other- she realizes not everything has to be about her!

hecuba365
11-17-2009, 01:27 AM
I actually know what it is and it's that finds out about the Mac surrogacy but don't know how or from who she finds it out from

Well, this is interesting after all. This would only give Chloe more incentive to sniff around Billy. Chance doesn't stand a chance if this is true.

ashang
11-17-2009, 01:31 AM
I voted "other"

Maybe she discovers the world doesn't revolve around her.

Yes, thank You!! :]:]

I think she discovers that she forgot to change Delia's last name to Abbott Like Cane told her to at the custody hearing..He told her" it's up to you to change the name".

ivyserpent
11-17-2009, 01:34 AM
I disagree. I can see Chloe talking about it with Mac, after all, she knows Billy, and she hates Cane just as much as Billy. Maybe at Restless Style, Chloe will talk to billy about it, and it will be yet, another way of showing how Chloe "gets" Billy. I don't think she is going to go after Billy. She could of had him when he came to her door that night, but SHE turned him away. I do think she is trying to move on, and this will be a good way of showing it, by acting like a friend to billy. No, Chloe isn't going to go after billy, she likes Chance a lot.

Josslyn
11-17-2009, 01:36 AM
If Gabby is right, we will now see the split in the Mac/Billy/Chloe triangle and see Lily/Cane/Mac and Billy/Chloe/Chance form! I`m more interested in seeing both of these triangles then going through more of the Bac/Chilly crap.

raspberry
11-17-2009, 01:38 AM
I think it will be something really unexoected.

Josslyn
11-17-2009, 01:38 AM
I disagree. I can see Chloe talking about it with Mac, after all, she knows Billy, and she hates Cane just as much as Billy. Maybe at Restless Style, Chloe will talk to billy about it, and it will be yet, another way of showing how Chloe "gets" Billy. I don't think she is going to go after Billy. She could of had him when he came to her door that night, but SHE turned him away. I do think she is trying to move on, and this will be a good way of showing it, by acting like a friend to billy. No, Chloe isn't going to go after billy, she likes Chance a lot.

I don`t think Chloe is going to go back to Billy, but now the thought of him being a single man is always going to be in the back of my mind, and that scares me. Although she appears to be over Billy, feelings that strong don`t totally fade away. I knew she was going to find out about the surrogacy and breakup sooner or later, but i was hoping for later. :] I hope shes not planning on consoling Billy, but she just might. He has no one else to turn to, and I could see Chloe trying to play the friendship card.

ivyserpent
11-17-2009, 01:44 AM
^^I can see them talking about it, because she will understand where he is coming from. And he will see that. After all, Chloe did tell him that they will always be friends. I agree that there will always be feelings for billy. I mean Chance made reference to it today, with the clothing comment of her trying to dress him like Billy. She really likes Chance. Dammit! It took so long to get to this point, I don't want her to revert back, because billy HAS TO BE ALONE FOR THE HOLIDAYS! I can't stress that enough!

Jayashiri
11-17-2009, 02:50 AM
She really likes Chance. Dammit! It took so long to get to this point, I don't want her to revert back, because billy HAS TO BE ALONE FOR THE HOLIDAYS! I can't stress that enough!

I couldn't agree more on the Billy thing.
He needs a serious dose of holidays blues to straighten his ass out.
Chloe has moved forward. Billy is still at a stand still.

And I hope, though I doubt, that Chloe's surprise is something nice from Chance.

SadieLadie
11-17-2009, 02:54 AM
I don't think Chloe would give a flying fig about Mac's surrogacy. She's over Billy; that's obvious. She and Chance are adorable together and I'm hoping for a great romance between them. I said, romance, not sex. There's enough of that.

Yes, I agree with the poster who said Chloe has come a long way. She's a great Mom and is one of my favorite characters on the show.

rjb
11-17-2009, 03:00 AM
I voted that she finds out he didn't file the divorce papers but I figured it would be something else, like finding out that Mac and Billy are kaput, finished, over, done with, toast...
Finding out that Mac's wanting to carry Lily and Cane's baby would be intriguing to Chloe...

Josslyn
11-17-2009, 03:07 AM
Everyone who believes that Chloe is over Billy is completely gullible. Just because she has feeling for Chance and is with him, does not by any means erase how in love she was with Billy. I'll say it again, those feelings would not have gone away this easily. She will always love Billy. Sure, she is standing up to him because he was a complete azz to her, but if he showed genuine feelings towards her, I really believe it wouldn't take long for her to go back. I hate admitting this, because I love Chloe and Chance, but at this point, its the truth. :(

casidyjulian
11-17-2009, 09:37 AM
I think Billy will contest the divorce on grounds he was drunk when he signed the papers.:D or he didn't bother filing them at all.>:}

LaurenFan
11-18-2009, 02:39 PM
Anyone knows the status of Thom Biertz. Is he gone for good? I wish they keep him around. There is so much they can do with that story.

wvgalsteph
11-18-2009, 04:12 PM
I dont know but I hope so. I didnt care for Phillip in the 80's and it wasnt any different this time either.

Girlswanahavfun
11-18-2009, 04:25 PM
I wish the actor all the best but I hope P3 is gone for good. What a waste that story was.

I wish Cane was still Katherine's real grandson. He has better chemistry with Jill and Kay. Plus I like the idea of Cane and Lily's baby having Kay as great gran and Niel as grandpa. I like Kay and Neil as family.

Kynn
11-18-2009, 04:42 PM
As far as I know this it the end of the road for TB. He had a six month contract which he says has not been renewed.
IMO his story was a real let down and I guess TPTB realized that and pulled the plug?

bputman
11-18-2009, 04:49 PM
I feel terrible for Thom Bierdz, but this was such a mess and a big let down that I honestly don't care.

fredsawy
11-18-2009, 05:01 PM
Nooo...I think they need to keep him and give him a real story line.

well_duh
11-18-2009, 05:10 PM
I like Thom Bierdz, and I was very excited when they were bringing Phillip back, but, other than the first big "reveal" at the party at Katharine's, they've really wasted this opportunity, and I don't see much point to keep things going. I certainly don't want to see a bunch of Australian cattle rustlers descend on the Chancellor estate.

Clearly, the whole thing was just a very clumsy prop to explain Cane's background (such as it was explained), and I feel terrible that TB's talents have been so misused (and, of course, wish him the best), but I have to say, I think Phillip's return really fizzled.

Another big waste, on so many fronts.

RestlessFan
11-18-2009, 05:11 PM
Anyone knows the status of Thom Biertz. Is he gone for good? I wish they keep him around. There is so much they can do with that story.

I also wish they would have kept him around and let him catch up on lost time in staying and being involved in his son's life and Nina's. I felt sorry for Nina when she found out he's leaving for Austrailia and she was very disappointed. Its too bad TPTB missed a great opportunity to write him a better storyline and instead they failed in their writing. What a shame. Instead, its the crazy ones they keep writing for and bring back: Patty/M.J., the likes of Ryder, Jeff, Gloria, Amber, Deacon (I rather they rid of these than core relevant historical characters).

Y&ROn&Off
11-18-2009, 05:35 PM
I hope so! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

compgirl
11-18-2009, 06:07 PM
Now they need to send Nina packing. I am so angry that they did this to Cane just to bring back a character that should have stayed dead. Not only did they make Cane a liar, they made him cruel for what he did to Lily and in the process they wanted to make Chloe and Amber look like victims too. I am this close to taking this crap of a show off my DVR schedule.

alphanguy
11-18-2009, 08:11 PM
He was on TWENTY episodes!!! How is that supposed to be enough development to decide if a storyline is working or not??!!! Many of you who didn't like the SL might have felt differently if he had some heart wrenching, emotional scenes with Jess Walton, as Jill tries to get past what he'd done. If they would have had Jill ACCEPT him with open arms, but have had Kay not willing to forgive, and then have that be another wedge between Jill and Kay, with Jill being afraid that Kay's lack of forgiveness would drive him away again. think how good that would have been. I don't for one minute think Thom's acting was the problem, not with the likes of Christel Kahlil and Hayley Erin on this show. PLEASE. Maria said at the end of August she was committed to telling Phillips story, and to have gay SL's. Well, either she knuckled under to knuckle-draggin bigots, or she's a liar, one of the two.

Ali_Kat
11-19-2009, 03:54 AM
There's been a lot of talk about Phillip leaving the show -- does anyone think Phillip is going to be killed in Australia? I'll admit that would make for some interesting repercussions concerning Cane -- but I would hate to lose Phillip. Of course, I don't know what more they can write for him.

It would be interesting to see if Jill still thinks Cane is the best son she ever had when it costs her Phillip again; and what Lily would do when she finds out the truth about Australia.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Mac carried a baby for Lily, then the truth about Cane comes out and Lily dumps him for good - leaning on Billy for support, and she and Billy end up raising the baby Mac carried. Calling Dr. Emily??? All your warnings to Mac would probably come true - but tough break Miss Know-it-all.

Jayashiri
11-19-2009, 04:23 AM
i take it your a lilliam fan? lol
just feels like you're inclusion of billy came out of nowhere

and i doubt p3 will be killed off screen. they brought him back, rewrote his return, just to kill off again? i'd hate to say that'd be too much for me. i'd stop watching and go back to my abc soaps. and i REALLY don't want to....:-?

if anything drastic happens, maybe p3 will be recast on his return?

carole13
11-19-2009, 05:21 AM
I have been wondering lately why in the world they brought Phillip back if they are just going to let him hang around and do nothing. I would love to see him get into an interesting story line.

GuidingLite
11-19-2009, 08:19 AM
I certainly hope they bring him back.....alive.....

P3 has so much potential as a character - especially with Jill and Katherine still on the show, and since they've brough Chance on, and it looks like they plan to keep Nina around...

The friendship that developed between Nina and P3 has been a wonderful thing to see.....the relationship that has developed between Chance and P3 has been a wonderful thing to see....the forgiveness between P3 and Jill when he admitted they had both been lousy parents was wonderful......

They have the foundation for a really wonderful character in P3.....I could see Lily and Cane asking him to be their child's Godfather and make Mac the Godmother, if she carries the child for them.....as long as they develop P3 fully as a well-fleshed out character now, they have a golden opportunity to fix one of the biggest mistakes ever made in the past - that of killing off the character in the first place.

I hope they take advantage of the chance they have given themselves by bringing him back to life - no matter how botched that has been so far.....

BreEMI
11-19-2009, 08:40 AM
The return of P3 is just another example of poor writers

We all know that the return of this characters had huge s/l possibilities & we all saw the story fall flat with nothing else being offered to the actor, so as a result of TIIC dropping the ball, yet again, another character walks & we're still stuck with the useless 8

While I would love nothing better than to see P3 return to GC & actually have a s/l or two I doubt we will be seeing the character anytime soon, if ever

How it will all play out is anyone's guess, but I'm leaning towards his death at the hands of the cattle rustlers. Of course, this will have Nina, Kay & Jill not believing that he's dead, as he faked it before; it will have Chance struggling emotionally because he'd be losing the father he's just come to accept, love & to know

I realize that another death, even a second one for P3 is crappy, but at the same time, I don't expect much else from TIIC ~ what will be shocking will be the fact that his death will most likely happen in Australia; I'm sure TIIC would rather have him drown in the lake of death outside of GC ~ you know the one, the one that took Brad & Colleen

GuidingLite
11-19-2009, 09:11 AM
The lake of death...lolololololol......

I can think of a few more characters who should visit said lake. :]

jcwalk
11-19-2009, 09:53 AM
Yes i suspect that Phillip will be killed. And with Phillip going back in an effort to help Cane, I guess Phillip will likely die a hero (same as Brad & Colleen).:rolleyes: If Phillip does die, can we get a new angle here writers (everyone shouldn't die a hero)!>:}

victorbradjack
11-19-2009, 11:15 AM
bringing him back at all was stupid. i do think they shipped him back to the outback to die a heros death.

soapnut3
11-19-2009, 12:37 PM
It does sound like they're writing in the possibility of a return, and there is so much more they could do with Philip. I hope he comes back after dealing with the rustlers. And I wonder how they can use that term with a straight face?

Emerald Greens
11-19-2009, 02:33 PM
I would prefer it if he stayed and Cane left but they do so much Cane propping I doubt that will happen.

SadieLadie
11-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Not all stories succeed and this is just one that didn't. It happens. I only wish he would take Nina with him.

Josslyn
11-19-2009, 02:39 PM
Not all stories succeed and this is just one that didn't. It happens. I only wish he would take Nina with him.

I wish Nina would have offered to go fight the cattle rustlers, so that Phillip could stay in town with Chance. :]

well_duh
11-19-2009, 02:40 PM
If that happened, the cattle rustlers wouldn't have a chance (NPI) in hell with Nina. She's feisty. :)

Smitty
11-19-2009, 03:50 PM
I hope he better comes back. He is so likeable to have around. Also I think the writers would know better than to eliminate him off the show after all the hoopla about bringing him back.
Thom Biertz as Phillip all the way.
Come back soon Thom.

soapnut3
11-19-2009, 04:10 PM
The writers did let him say he'd be back, and I hope he does. There are many directions they could take him, and at the very least, he should have been working for Mac at Jimmy's while in GC.

Corlitto
11-19-2009, 04:17 PM
I hope this isn't the end of Phillip. Why bring him back just to send him away again. The writers dropped the ball. We saw little interaction with Jill, Kay, Billy or Chance. I thought he was going to have his own story - that he would have romantic relationships.

Did network execs bow to pressure? MAB certainly sounded like she was ready for new stories to tell surrounding his return, but instead all we got was cattle rustlers. :]

Max
11-19-2009, 06:27 PM
I certainly hope they bring him back.....alive.....

P3 has so much potential as a character - especially with Jill and Katherine still on the show, and since they've brough Chance on, and it looks like they plan to keep Nina around...

The friendship that developed between Nina and P3 has been a wonderful thing to see.....the relationship that has developed between Chance and P3 has been a wonderful thing to see....the forgiveness between P3 and Jill when he admitted they had both been lousy parents was wonderful......

They have the foundation for a really wonderful character in P3.....I could see Lily and Cane asking him to be their child's Godfather and make Mac the Godmother, if she carries the child for them.....as long as they develop P3 fully as a well-fleshed out character now, they have a golden opportunity to fix one of the biggest mistakes ever made in the past - that of killing off the character in the first place.

I hope they take advantage of the chance they have given themselves by bringing him back to life - no matter how botched that has been so far.....

I TOTALLY AGREE! I actually think the writers needed to find a way to redeem Phillip after the way they botched it up in the beginning. This last weeks episodes and especially todays allowed us to see just how good Thom Bierdz P3 is when given a good script and allowed him to interact with others on the show like Paul and Chole. His scenes today with Nina and Jill and Chance were so moving to me. I actually found myself tearing up. SO I am really hoping this is the "set up" for his return into the family and GC full time! There are so many wonderful and new storylines we have never seen before with his return as a gay man who is a legacy character! Bravo to Thom and the writers for showing Phillip in a postive light! Now bring him back real soon!!!!!

well_duh
11-19-2009, 06:30 PM
I'd never disagree that Thom Bierdz is very good in that role, nor would I disagree that today's episode was touching, but, really, overall -- don't you think they botched his return pretty badly? Just asking. :)