Random Ryan's Hope Observations

[Luray]

Post 'em here. They don't have to make sense.

I myself like it when Pat wears a green tie. :D

[soper]

I don't understand why Faith got so bitchy....
right now, she is ok.....:-?

[GL1979]

Loved the first scene last week with Seneca & Jill. I was so obsessed with them 30 years ago.

[AMCsince70]

Meave always buttons her top button...except for today:o

[GL1979]

Jill & Faith need to wear a bra.

[boesveld]

I get a kick out of the avacodo appliances in the Coleridge kitchen - the whole thing is so retro in todays world....

Maeve and Johnnie's living room just looks like a room you could really be comfortable in....

Those hospital scrubs fit Bucky just fine....;)

Psycho Kenny has a haircut that only a mother could love...and so does Ed Coleridge for that matter...

And the mature storylines and extended conversations on RH - with the expectation that an audience will enjoy it too - is such a deep pleasure compared to today's soaps and a sad reminder of how badly the genre has deteriorated.

But what the hell, we've got Ryan's Hope to balance that out!

[soapguyusa]

All the blankets in the hospital scenes are green. How appropriate for a soap that focuses on an Irish Catholic family!

[Luray]

I get a kick out of the avacodo appliances in the Coleridge kitchen - the whole thing is so retro in todays world....
I know ... But they've got double ovens! [/oven envy] :]

[boesveld]

I know ... But they've got double ovens! [/oven envy] :]

I know! My eye goes to those double ovens each time too. I had those once, but alas no longer. It sure made Thanksgiving easier. But then, Kenny has certainly solved all of his storage problems with all those open morgue slots. Who needs the container store when you have an entire morgue at your disposal?

[soper]

Dee is too good for Frank.....:o

[AMCsince70]

Nobody drinks coffee in a mug...cups and saucers only.

[Marissa Randall]

And the mature storylines and extended conversations on RH - with the expectation that an audience will enjoy it too - is such a deep pleasure compared to today's soaps and a sad reminder of how badly the genre has deteriorated.

This is so true.....

[soper]

they have touching little memories about every damn thing in the world....

Dee is the only one with a bad childhood experience...

I want to hear the story about how Johnny got drunk one night
and beat up Kevin!!!! (ROTFLMAO!!!!)

nobody pays for anything at ryans bar.....
and, people drink all the time but no body
gets drunk....
(where is the woman at the end of the bar that always hits on Johnny?????):]

[Luray]

Nell sure owns a lot of caftans.

I've owned maybe one in my life? During a bizarre phase right after college, it was, when I also took to drinking martinis. Ewwwww.

[boesveld]

Nell sure owns a lot of caftans.

I've owned maybe one in my life? During a bizarre phase right after college, it was, when I also took to drinking martinis. Ewwwww.

I commiserate with you on those early missteps we all made.;) Now I never owned a caftan, but I did start drinking Rob Roys during college because I had seen some stuffed shirt doing the same thing on some Masterpiece Theater thing - and tried a pipe at the same time:o.....I was completely insufferable for at least a year! Maybe longer......Thank God I was too poor to keep that sort of nonsense up.

[GL1979]

I want to hear the story about how Johnny got drunk one night
and beat up Kevin!!!! (ROTFLMAO!!!!)

(where is the woman at the end of the bar that always hits on Johnny?????):]

Not to be a spoiler, but there was that one indiscretion of Johnny's that came back to haunt him many years later.

[GL1979]

two random thoughts.
Seneca & Nell's apartment view was pretty high up. they must have lived in the Empire State Building

Nurses still wore their hats at Riverside Hospital.

[lorettalockhorn]

Jill & Faith need to wear a bra.

Amen. That is what keeps them from looking professional to me.

And the mature storylines and extended conversations on RH - with the expectation that an audience will enjoy it too - is such a deep pleasure compared to today's soaps and a sad reminder of how badly the genre has deteriorated.

Maeve's explanation of penal crosses was a great example. Out of the dozens of rosaries and crosses that I collect, I don't have anything that is similar.

I know ... But they've got double ovens! [/oven envy] :]

LMAO I'm gaga for Aga!!

I also took to drinking martinis. Ewwwww.

Still drinking them with a whisper of vermouth.

.....I was completely insufferable for at least a year!

Still insufferable when the vermouth is screaming in my martini!

Nurses still wore their hats at Riverside Hospital.

Oh, good call! And the style was an indication of what school they had graduated (from).

[Luray]

I was wondering why the nurses all wore different caps. Thanks.

[fairplay28]

I was wondering why the nurses all wore different caps. Thanks.

The black band on the cap meant they had graduated as RNs.

[boesveld]

We've said this before, but the food on RH really looks good enough to eat - and often they do eat it. That breakfast that Maeve made for Sam had me craving bacon and eggs!

[Luray]

The sandwiches always manage to look gross, though. Bologna and Wonder bread. :-{

[boesveld]

The sandwiches always manage to look gross, though. Bologna and Wonder bread. :-{

Well, that's true. I saw Maeve making some the other day and I thought to myself what condition lunch meat must be in after frying under those studio lights all day.....but that soup pot she always has going gives me a hankerin..

Oh, any of you notice those bedsheets in Frank and Dee's room? Those white pillowcases with the gold and green stripes? My folks still had that set up until last year. After they died those sheets went into the yard sale and some happy camper bought a whole bag of retro 60's and 70's bedware for a whole 50 cents!

[Luray]

I had those same sheets, too. Seeing those sheets only reinforces my belief that the Ryan's Hope wardrobe and set folks did their shopping via the JC Penney catalog.

I suppose, when I was 10, the green and gold was my parents' punishment for rejecting the pink ruffly ballerina bedroom that I loved when I was 5. And not only was our kitchen Harvest Gold, every other room in the house was as well. :rolleyes: No house of mine will ever have anything remotely akin to Harvest Gold. Ever.

[GL1979]

My family had those sheets too!

I just saw the aneurism episodes. So when an aneurism bursts I guess you see people saying weird things and singing cabaret songs. that was bizarre!

[GL1979]

We actually had orange semi-shag carpet for many years, along with harvest gold kitchen items. my mom won $1000 at bingo-lol.

[AMCsince70]

...And not only was our kitchen Harvest Gold...

Oops...I confess here...I still have my harvest gold stove and refrigerator from Montgomery Ward. I guess the folks at RH would feel right at home in my kitchen....:rolleyes:

Oh, Maeve, please come over and cook at nice pot of soup for me :x

[soapguyusa]

We had those same green and gold striped sheets at my house too. Our living room had green and gold swirled carpet. We had brown appliances in our kitchen. Our neighbors had the harvest gold. My cousin had the avocado green kitchen. In our living room, we had a gold leather recliner and an orange leather recliner (yuck!) Watching Ryan's Hope does take me back to my childhood. I was born in 1976, so seeing these episodes takes me back to my first memories of home.

[Marissa Randall]

The actor playing Nick with Delia today; Didn't he go on to later become one of Sonny's men on GH? I could swear that he was the one who tried to trap Brenda and kill her.

[Luray]

Tuesday morning, during the scenes in the dungeon/morge/Faith's pleasant place (Kenneth is just sooooo wacky), the stupid canary was twittering away ...

And my cat attacked the TV! :]

[kg1]

gl1979, glad 2 c there is another seneca and jillian fan out there. thought i was the only 1.

[GL1979]

gl1979, glad 2 c there is another seneca and jillian fan out there. thought i was the only 1.

OK confession time, this was before VCRs and I was 19 , I was so obsessed with their story that I knew I wouldn't get a chance to watch it one day, and I was taking classes at the community college and had an hour between classes, so I was using my dad's car that day and drove over to the Kmart between classes to see if they were showing ABC on the TVs. Yikes.

[boesveld]

It sure was great to see Gale Sondergaard onscreen as Seneca's mother! She was a wonderful, if largely unappreciated actress from Hollywood's heyday - and she still looked pretty good to me.

Ryan's Hope certainly had no problem attracting some wonderful talent with some of their short-term roles - Sylvia Sydney and Gale Sondegaard - both pretty classy actresses.

Also, I am now remembering why I liked Seneca somewhat.:o This crisis now that Nell is brain dead, that's the Seneca I remember enjoying - I don't know how long that's going to last, tho....

[QueenReva]

The black band on the cap meant they had graduated as RNs.

The nursing caps were also different depending on which nursing school you graduated from. Each had their own style.

[QueenReva]

Tuesday morning, during the scenes in the dungeon/morge/Faith's pleasant place (Kenneth is just sooooo wacky), the stupid canary was twittering away ...

And my cat attacked the TV! :]

Did anyone notice if the canary died due to gas fumes?? It should have.

[Marissa Randall]

I can't answer that for you, since I don't know, but I'm thinking that is the reason why they (the producers/directors/writers) added the canary into the mix in the first place. Didn't they use to bring such birds down into the mines long ago, to alert the miners to the possibility of poisionous gases? I thought there was a song some years back called "Canary in a Coal Mine" by The Police.

[Luray]

Canary's at the Rainbow Bridge. The gas killed it. Faith was babbling about it to Pat this morning.

Another random observation -- what was that furry thing on the back of Rog's sofa?? :o #-o :o

[boesveld]

Another random observation -- what was that furry thing on the back of Rog's sofa?? :o #-o :o

Not only that furry thing, but Rog's entire "bachelor pad" is so retro that its painful on the eyes.....that fake leopard skin he was laying on, that couch, those pillows - all it needed was Dudley Moore to complete the scene. There is a good reason I have done a severe editing job on my photos from the 70's.....%(

[Luray]

Boesveld. Tsk. You edited history?!?!? :]

I love Roger. He's such an unabashed hedonist. :x

[AMCsince70]

My observation is that I soooo detested Roger the first time 'round. Now, I keep replaying his scenes to appreciate his phenomenal acting style.

Did he ever win an Emmy nom for his work?

[fissie]

Was I seeing things? I could have sworn that in today´s first episode Delia was tying a pink scarve around her neck when she was leaving. The beginning of second eppy opened with her sitting on Rog´s couch in a turquoise one. I deleted the first eppy so I couldn´t go back and check. Was I seeing things?

[Luray]

I was half awake and half asleep this morning when "Whenever I Call You Friend" by Stevie Nicks and Kenny Loggins came on the radio. In my half dreaming state, it was Delia singing the female lead. :]

No more 70s music on the clock radio, no matter now much the Fiance whines and complains! And no more pumpkin pie before bedtime ... #-o

[my2cents]

I love the gorgeous ballad they sang today in Ryan's Bar, while toasting Nell with the whiskey -- although technically it's Scottish, not Irish.

Now about all the bologna sandwich talk...I used to love bologna and Wonder Bread when I was a kid, we had it at summer camp all the time. After years of (mostly) healthy eating, I had an intense craving a couple days ago for Oscar Meyer Olive Loaf (which I supposed is just bologna with olives) -- I got my husband to pick some up at the market on the way home....yummm!! Nothing like some good plastic comfort food every now and then :]

[Marissa Randall]

My observation is that I soooo detested Roger the first time 'round. Now, I keep replaying his scenes to appreciate his phenomenal acting style.

Did he ever win an Emmy nom for his work?

I felt the same way about Roger the first time around as well. Of course, I was only 14 at the time, but even though he's still the same scoundrel, I am able to be less biased this time, and appreciate Ron Hale's portrayal.

Btw, he was nominated twice for Best Supporting Actor, but didn't win either year.

[soper]

If I were Mary, Ryan would have never been born, cause I would have dumped Jacks ass before the second season....:]

[GL1979]

Was I seeing things? I could have sworn that in today´s first episode Delia was tying a pink scarve around her neck when she was leaving. The beginning of second eppy opened with her sitting on Rog´s couch in a turquoise one. I deleted the first eppy so I couldn´t go back and check. Was I seeing things?

There was a scene a week ago where Seneca & Bucky were talking and these weird pink stripes kept showing up, maybe it was something like that. It's old film i guess.
I think the sets are

[GL1979]

Sorry i didn't finish my thought. I think it's a little sad as a GL viewer to see that they had better sets 30 years ago on RH than they are allowed today on GL. The restaurant, the homes, the dungeon morgue room are all well done.

[fissie]

I sort of touched on this in my other reply. The sets were good. Everything was good. It's really sad to see how far they have unraveled. Even the stories now are so ridiculous. What does it really say about our world?

[Luray]

Was I seeing things? I could have sworn that in today´s first episode Delia was tying a pink scarve around her neck when she was leaving. The beginning of second eppy opened with her sitting on Rog´s couch in a turquoise one. I deleted the first eppy so I couldn´t go back and check. Was I seeing things?
Nope, you weren't seeing things. Continuity was on vacation that day.

If I were Mary, Ryan would have never been born, cause I would have dumped Jacks ass before the second season....:]
And if I were Mary, I never would let him out of bed! :] :x

[fissie]

luray,
thanks for responding. It was driving me nuts and I just couldn't believe my eyes!

[Luray]

How many characters have worn that blue terrycloth robe? I've seen it on Faith, Roger, Jack ... who else?

[AMCsince70]

Back in the day, that style of terry robe only came in two colors: blue or white...that was the tradition for that kind of robe.

In fact, I still have my (now "old") blue terry robe from the early days of when Victoria Secret retail stores first opened in the malls (late 80s). And at that time, VS only made the robe available in its two typical colors: blue or white. (I bought on of each :D)

[Luray]

Another observation from Wednesday -- when Frank was trying to calm Mary down in the kitchen, the actor actually acted without looking at the cue cards!

[Luray]

What did y'all think of Clem's rabbit fur coat? He's one stylin' dude. :)

[lorettalockhorn]

LOL That coat made me immediately think of pimpdaddy.com :]

(And you guys are right about MH, his scenes have been much better! I should lay off the bashing. For now.)

[Luray]

Love Delia and her conversation with "Sheila." Every married woman needs a "Sheila" in her life! :]

[boesveld]

Until I saw Roger in his, I forgot those "shorty" robes from back in the day...you had to wear those VERY carefully, especially if you intended to sit down in them!

[AMCsince70]

Observation:

People get to stay in the hospital a longer than in real life. At Riverside Hospital, it's almost like a hotel-type rest situation. Both Mary and Reenie were well enough to be jumping out of bed, walking about, visiting people other rooms, roaming the halls, etc. Nowadays, people are discharged as soon as they are conscious.

[Luray]

*sigh* Life and death before managed care.

[QueenReva]

Observation:

People get to stay in the hospital a longer than in real life. At Riverside Hospital, it's almost like a hotel-type rest situation. Both Mary and Reenie were well enough to be jumping out of bed, walking about, visiting people other rooms, roaming the halls, etc. Nowadays, people are discharged as soon as they are conscious.

Explain to me how Reenie and Mary spend weeks in the hospital, but baby Johnny is sent home with 3rd degree burns???? First mistake I've seen on the show.

[fissie]

Explain to me how Reenie and Mary spend weeks in the hospital, but baby Johnny is sent home with 3rd degree burns???? First mistake I've seen on the show.

LOL! You are too right!

[fissie]

Doesn't Rog's kitchen look like the one in Frank's apt in years to come? Later on the show, I remember Rog's apartment, but I don't remember that kitchen! I'm sure you real RH buff's will know for sure!

[Marissa Randall]

I guess real scoundrels (men) ate quiche Lorraine back in the 70's. Roger (Ron) plays wicked so well, and he could cook to boot.

[AMCsince70]

Quiche was all the rage in the late 70s...sort of like "the sushi for the 70s" :]...for both men and women.

It was it wasn't until some wise guy made that "real men don't" comment that people suddenly and blindly turned against quiche en masse...just like the way women turned on pear-shaped diamonds (also all-the-rage in the 70s) after the comment from the gals on Sex in the City...and just like men became embarrassed to drive mini-vans after that commercial about the guy in the health club who did not respond to the announcement for the person whose "mini-van has its lights on."

[boesveld]

This real man never did give it up - and I make a pretty mean one too. Crab and onion, quiche lorraine, etc.

Since I have been hopelessly out of step most of my life, I just carry on merrily doing the "wrong" thing! Kinda like Kevin and that beard of his....;)

[GL1979]

I watched a marathon of my tapes last weekend to get caught up. here's what I noticed

Most of the young women were in the hospital.
Faith yelling "daddy" was really annoying.
And you can sure notice how everyone has bright white teeth these days in comparison to the old days of Ryan's Hope

[Marissa Randall]

In the same vein as bright white teeth, most of the actors on RH were good looking, but not model beautiful or handsome as you see as a soap prerequisite nowadays. In place of this, however, the emphasis was placed on their ability to act.

[QueenReva]

I agree with you remark about their ability to act over their appearances, with one exception, the first actor to play Frank. I will say though, he does read very well.

[AMCsince70]

Fortunately, he seems to have gotten a bit better as of late...;)

[Luray]

And you can sure notice how everyone has bright white teeth these days in comparison to the old days of Ryan's Hope
That's cause they were real teeth and not caps! [/catty observations]

Frank's "acting" has improved over the past couple of weeks. He actually looks at the other actors, and changes his expression now and then.

[AMCsince70]

Nice to see all the typewriters on the show..Jack with his manual Remington, and Mary with her electric.

[fissie]

I was thinking the same thing the other day. It brought back many a memory spent in front of the typewriter with white out and that eraser tape---trying to make the term paper deadline. EEEKS!

[soper]

i was thinking....
i bet they would pay a lot for my old computer!!!!:]

[Luray]

I had a Royal manual -- one of those big metal things. You really had to work to type on it! The difference in the way you type on a computer keyboard vs. a manual typewriter explains a lot of carpal tunnel syndrome, if you ask me.

Also, moving that danged thing around required some muscle! I think it weighed at least 30 pounds.

[lorettalockhorn]

Between hauling a manual typewriter to the library (to avoid a rental fee) and playing bassoon, my arms should have put Popeye's to shame. :]

[Luray]

I really liked that green and white print dress Mary wore on Thursday's show. Shame she wasted it on Nick and Sam ... :]

[AMCsince70]

I love that phones are the kind that you have to dial! And the phone have bells that really "ring" when someone calls. Love it! :D

[fissie]

Oh My Gosh! That is sooo true. I just noticed how loooong it takes them to dial with those rotary phones. :]

[rhgholtl4evr]

Nell sure owns a lot of caftans.
I've owned maybe one in my life? During a bizarre phase right after college, it was, when I also took to drinking martinis. Ewwwww.

I still own & wear mine nearly every night at home. Real comfortable, durable polyester with fantasy floral designs - I feel like a queen in them !

Nurses still wore their hats at Riverside Hospital.

I could tell who nurses were then. Today, they look like the rest of the medical staff in their pants and smocks - so unsophisticated & unprofessional looking but ever more practical than the restricting "uniforms" back in the day. I still have my Barbie Nurse Uniform & I'm not giving it up!

It sure was great to see Gale Sondergaard onscreen as Seneca's mother! She was a wonderful, if largely unappreciated actress from Hollywood's heyday - & she still looked pretty good to me.

Loved Gale Sondergaard as the 1st wife of the king in "Anna and the King of Siam" with Irene Dunne & Rex Harrison. Also, her performance in "The Letter" with Bette Davis was chilling.

This real man never did give it up & I make a pretty mean one too. Crab and onion, quiche lorraine, etc.


Can I come over to your house and have some Quiche & Crab? I make a mean Maeve-style pot of soup & other good home cookin' (burp!) I still "Carry On" with my long hair too even though I'm 52. "Almost cut my hair, it happened just the other day" will never be my mantra & I'll always love Crosby, Stills & Nash.

Nice to see all the typewriters on the show..Jack with his manual Remington, & Mary with her electric.

I knew I loved Jack for some reason. I learned how to type in 9th grade on a manual Remington. The next year, I was in heaven typing on an electric typewriter. A few years later, IBM Selectric was on the market - wish I had one now for those little home typing jobs like pendaflex labels for my file cabinet.

Don't get me started on phones - Real rings, people using the phone only when it was necessary & in private for the most part. Not the inane, mostly idle & what should be private chit-chat I hear on busses & trains today. Excuse me while I roll my eyes :rolleyes: & cry %(.

I love Ryan's Hope for so many reasons ... Peace Out

[AMCsince70]

That enclosed telephone booth right on the sidewalk! Brings back so many memories. :D

[Luray]

This real man never did give it up - and I make a pretty mean one too. Crab and onion, quiche lorraine, etc.
What time is brunch being served? :)

[AMCsince70]

The pay phone at Lem's costs a dime. ;)

I liked hearing how RH incorporated local news (the 1976 Democrat National Convention at Madison Square Garden) into the story line. They also mentioned all the political primaries, etc...which makes '76 sound just like '08.

[GL1979]

Someone mentioned the Olympics the other day too. Wasn't that the Bruce Jenner/Nadia Olympics, just think how long ago that was!

[excuseyou77]

The pay phone at Lem's costs a dime. ;)

I liked hearing how RH incorporated local news (the 1976 Democrat National Convention at Madison Square Garden) into the story line. They also mentioned all the political primaries, etc...which makes '76 sound just like '08.
I really love the realism of this show.

[soper]

The pay phone at Lem's costs a dime. ;)

I liked hearing how RH incorporated local news (the 1976 Democrat National Convention at Madison Square Garden) into the story line. They also mentioned all the political primaries, etc...which makes '76 sound just like '08.
LOL!!! That's cause all the elections sound the same... they are all going to bring change, but no one knows what.... and everything really stays the same, because the president doesn't have the power to change very much.... ( checks and balances put in by our forefathers prevent that)
and it is a good thing..... no one should have absolute power.....

[AMCsince70]

I like the way RH acknowledges and observes most holidays.

I wonder how Father's Day will fare with "Da" this year, knowing that his Mary is about to wed the evil Mr. Fenelli? ;)

[soper]

I like the way RH acknowledges and observes most holidays.

I wonder how Father's Day will fare with "Da" this year, knowing that his Mary is about to wed the evil Mr. Fenelli? ;)
I love the holidays too....
Did they ever celebrate Fathers Day?.... I can't remember?????:-?

[BJS911]

I've noticed Roger clears his throat....A LOT!

[laner]

We had those same green and gold striped sheets at my house too. Our living room had green and gold swirled carpet. We had brown appliances in our kitchen. Our neighbors had the harvest gold. My cousin had the avocado green kitchen. In our living room, we had a gold leather recliner and an orange leather recliner (yuck!) Watching Ryan's Hope does take me back to my childhood. I was born in 1976, so seeing these episodes takes me back to my first memories of home.
ya, my mother n law had those same sheets. musta been popular! lol

[Luray]

Oh, speaking of those sheets ... Boesveld, I thought of you (while cleaning my mother's house ... aren't you special! :]) ... When I was at my mom's over Christmas, we had some major spillage, and when I went to get some rags, guess what I found in the rag pile????

ACK! :]

[AMCsince70]

It's always interesting to see how language has changed:

Mary said she needed to get a beach robe for her wedding trousseau. That word brought back memories! I remember my white shortie terrycloth beach robe with the big buttons. But that was back in the day.

Nowadays people refer a beach robe as a "beach cover up"....

[fissie]

Language does change..doesn't it. I am a product of the 70's, but both my parents lived through the depression. Let's just say that I was a big 'OOPS'!
Anyway, I say a ton of things that make my friends think twice. :o Like I call my robe a house coat and occasionally I have called the ER the dispenserie. :]:]

[AMCsince70]

I love the look of the hats on the bridesmaids. Very, very mid-to-late 70s. (My bridesmaids wore those sheer, floppy hats, too. I think the style was referred to as "picture hats.")

[Luray]

I had a lime green bathing suit very similar to Mary's.

This show scares me sometimes ... LOL ...

[AMCsince70]

That tan handbag with the white piping around the edges...the one that Mary has been using for spring/summer...I had that bag, too! And that plaid blouse and wrap denim skirt she wears nearly every day, I dressed like that, too, in the 70's.

It amazes me to see all those fashions again and to realize that they don't look all that dated, actually.

On other so-called 70's shows...whenever they dress those "so-called 70's characters" in 70's fashions, they pick the most ugly, clownish things to wear. But Mary and the Ryans wore what average people wore in the mid-70's...and I give the wardrobe department lots of credit for shopping in regular department stores for the character's clothing, rather than in uber high-fashion and pricey places (as seems to be the case now).

Jill's wardrobe, by the way, is so classic that it still looks fabulous and fresh.

[AMCsince70]

We are seeing shows from the middle of the summer...so why oh why is everyone (except Delia!) wearing long sleeves?

I understand the lawyers,doctors, and politician Frank need to be "suited up"...but why are Johnny, Maeve, and Bob dressed in long sleeves? I don't think the air conditioning in their apartment or in the bar is cranked up that high.

[AMCsince70]

Obviously no cells phones meant Jill and Seneca were stranded in the car...and Frank was left out of communication with Jill.

How different the course of events might have been...:-?

[Luray]

Och! Things were so ... primitive! :]

[GL1979]

Was catching up on RH this weekend and only saw Justin Deas once when he went to visit Seneca in Jail.
The dvr taped 4 episodes wrong and there was Dallas instead of RH. So after Sam came into the bar and told Reenie and Bucky about being told to leave town, was she ever on again? I guess I didn't miss too much else, but didn't Justin Deas leave the show not too long after that story?

One more comment about Justin Deas, he's notorious for chewing gum on Guiding Light these days, and in that scene with Seneca, there he was chewing Gum! so it's not a recent thing.(the first time I ever noticed it on RH though.)

[AMCsince70]

It's supposed to be the middle of summer on RH right now, and we heard Delia complaining about how she is sweltering in her $60 hotel room, but all the guys who showed up to talk her down from the ledge (Frank, Johnny,and Bob) must think it's October or November...they had on long-sleeve shirts and suit jackets...and Bob even had on a necktie.

[Luray]

What in the name of Fifi the Poodle is up with Martha McKee's hair???

[QueenReva]

It's supposed to be the middle of summer on RH right now, and we heard Delia complaining about how she is sweltering in her $60 hotel room, but all the guys who showed up to talk her down from the ledge (Frank, Johnny,and Bob) must think it's October or November...they had on long-sleeve shirts and suit jackets...and Bob even had on a necktie.

Not to mention that she had Little John covered in a blanket, poor kid must have been cooking under that thing.

[AMCsince70]

Jill's comment about Riverside Hospital having a computer for a heart...

That reminded me how the giant computers we had back in the 70's (and virtually no personal computers) compare to what we have now...

[my2cents]

Jill's comment about Riverside Hospital having a computer for a heart...

That reminded me how the giant computers we had back in the 70's (and virtually no personal computers) compare to what we have now...

I don't remember the computers of 70's (except on TV) but I do remember them from the mid-80's. At work we had some the size of washing machines, with large, round back-up discs roughly 2 feet in diameter (weighing about 10 pounds each). I really got in shape at that job doing all the back-ups at the end of my shift! :]

[GL1979]

Roger's hair sticking out like a clown at the side and the moustache, I know longer hair was in back then, but I think I thought his was funny then too.

If he had glasses he'd look like Chuckie's dad on Rugrats

[AMCsince70]

That classic Chianti bottle that Pat and Faith gave to Jack and Mary at their first dinner party sure brought back memories.

Now all they need to do is to stick a candle in it when it's empty!

[monakayk]

Loved the 'classic' champagne glasses that Seneca brought to Jill's beach house and served the champers in. They were large & opened at the top...so unlike the 'tulip' shaped champagne glasses we use today. I guess folks back then didn't like the bubbles as much as we do today...cause they really escape so quickly in those type glasses.

Also, love the green dress that Mary had on with the matching tie-scarf she flipped around her neck that she wore at her 1st dinner party. My Mom still wears her scarfs that way to this day!:]

MonaK

[monakayk]

I don't remember the computers of 70's (except on TV) but I do remember them from the mid-80's. At work we had some the size of washing machines, with large, round back-up discs roughly 2 feet in diameter (weighing about 10 pounds each). I really got in shape at that job doing all the back-ups at the end of my shift! :]

My room-mate in college took computer science and once I went with her to 'help' her carry her computer cards to the dorm...they were those punch out type cards. Those computers in the lab at college were HUGE! And all those punched out cards...my room-mate had STACKS of them! Far cry from the small jump drives we use today to store info on to transfer info from one computer to another!

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

Loved the 'classic' champagne glasses that Seneca brought to Jill's beach house...They were large & opened at the top...so unlike the 'tulip' shaped champagne glasses we use today. I guess folks back then didn't like the bubbles as much as we do today...cause they really escape so quickly in those type glasses.

Actually, I still kinda like those saucer glasses for champagne better than the flute style, mainly because all the bubbles go right to my nose/face and it's quite a ticklish sensation. Yummy! Festive! More!

I don't mind so much that the bubbles don't last as long in those wide glasses...since champagne doesn't ever seem to last all that long in my glass anyway. :]:] burp :D

[toomuchtime]

ok, so where did Martha McKee park her bird when she went to the rally .....with the gold earrings and the red scarf on her still permed to within an inch of its life hair....she looked like a pirate.....too funny....and when they had the camera on Frank on "the stage" you could always see her "red" head in the audience.....

my other comment for today was on the little visit De made to Frank and Mary..and Mary's remark about how Pat was "addicted" to either saving or defending De.....that was a good line, even if I can't remember it...LOl

[AMCsince70]

Maeve and Johnny folded up that bedspread of theirs so convincingly...as if they had done it together thousands times before in the marriage.
(How many times did Helen and Bernard have to practice that to make it look so smooth?);)

[toomuchtime]

that struck me as genuine as well, you'd think they were really married, they really were great in their parts......

on another string from this am's show....loved the last line Frank utterd "no one will see us"......great soap line...now days there would be some pap with a camera at both their houses just waiting for the photo since her name was in the article....love this show....

[fissie]

I liked the scene between Jill and Frank today. You got the sense of them being in bed, but didn't have to have the whole exposé. (Not that I mind a good sex scene now and then. :)) It's just that back then they portrayed so many things in the simplest of ways.

[my2cents]

In the scene earlier this week or so, when Dee was at Ryan's helping out behind the bar, before she was served by the process server -- right after she got done saying something to Kevin, they went to a close-up of the swinging door to the kitchen and it then swung in toward the kitchen (for no apparent reason and with nobody there). Then camera swept to the front door of Ryan's which swung open into the bar and Mary came bounding in. :] Did anyone else notice that?

[monakayk]

Noticed today while Frank and Dee were having it out in Ryan's kitchen...the swiss dot curtains on the kitchen windows. My Mom had curtains similar to those, except the were yellow with white swiss dots on them. Seeing those curtains brought back fond memories of my teen years in my family's kitchen.

MonaK

[Luray]

Looks like Bob enlisted a couple of days ago ... What a haircut! :]

[toomuchtime]

didn't ya just love that little smile Delia gave as she laid her head down on the pillow??? she is soooooooo bad and I don't mean good :-)

[AMCsince70]

Looks like Bob enlisted a couple of days ago ...

Not only that, but it looks like he dropped a lot of weight, too.

Maybe he had just finished a role in a military movie or TV show? That would make sense...

[monakayk]

Noticed during surgery...the docs/nurses had on cloth surgical caps and mask instead of the disposable surgical mask/caps.

Also, that heart-rate monitor looked like it was used back in the 50's instead of the 70's. It sure looked OLD.

The drape that they had over Jack (right above his neck so he can't see surgery...as if he would be able to look being knocked out) was lime green. Too funny...it didn't even match the drab green the other sheet/drape used for the rest of his body.

The blood that Jack was getting a transfusing during surgery with looked more like bright red koolaid. LOL.:]

Mona

[AMCsince70]

We are so accustomed to the high tech way that contemporary hospital dramas are filmed, that TV shows filmed over 30 years ago do seem quaint by comparison.

But I really love seeing the difference.

All the disposables we now use in a hospital...plus the fact that nurses don't seem to wear caps any longer...help me see how much we as a society have changed!

[lorettalockhorn]

Not only that, but it looks like he dropped a lot of weight, too.

He sure did! All that from a haircut? (I should lose my big ole beehive!)

The blood that Jack was getting a transfusing during surgery with looked more like bright red koolaid. LOL.:]

Mona

I thought it looked like Alex's mother's hooch. Er uh private reserve. :P

[AMCsince70]

Have you noticed the "dust level" on that mahogany secretary's pull down shelf where the Ryans keep their living room phone?

A few days ago when Maeve was sick and Delia answered the phone, there was a deliberate layer of dust on that piece of furniture. I wanted to shout, "Dee, get a dust rag quick!" The next time, about a day or two later, when Pat (and then Dee again just today) picked up the phone, the shelf was clean. (Maeve was now getting around more to clean house.)

I love how the set designers take a lot of care with the set, so much so that when Maeve was sick, the house was ever so slightly dustier.

[Luray]

Speaking of set detail and the phone in the Ryans' living room ... That thing must have a really long cord, because sometimes it's on the secretary, sometimes it's on the coffee table, and sometimes it's next to the wing chair.

Poor Little John. He probably trips over the phone cord a thousand times a day.

And speaking of the heart rate monitor, I can't remember which Mel Brooks movie it was in, but one of the movies had a hospital patient hooked up to a monitor and two orderlies were playing Pong on it. :o

[lorettalockhorn]

Silent Movie! With the late great Anne Bancroft. RIP

[AMCsince70]

I love how Dee told Patrick that Roger bought Little John a toy car in the "candy store." That's so very New York!

NYC candy stores aren't the same kind of candy store you would see in the mall. They are corner stores where you can buy newspapers, magazines, cigarettes, lotto tickets, candy...and just about everything..."the kitchen sink." :D

[AMCsince70]

Times change!

It took so long back then to get results from Jill's pregnancy test...and DNA tests were virtually unheard for determining fatherhood, though a blood test might yield a likely guess of who was "not" the father.

At this point, Jill would have no way of knowing who's the father...it's still a guessing game for her and the viewers, at this point.

[laner]

The womens hair! Natural, most of the time it falls down during the scenes. I love it. You dont see that now..today women (and mens) hair stays in place lol. I think its so 70's lol ...Hair everywhere. This show brings back so many memories of my childhood and the funny things ppl wore.

[AMCsince70]

Ha...I must be a product of the 70s:]...but I think the RH women still look "okay" and even classic in my eyes. (I would love to wear any of Jill's fashion, even now.:D) Except for an occasional wild print on a blouse/dress, they look more-or-less like the average person. (But, granted, more middle America than NYC high fashion.)

What catches my eye is that, for the most part, is that the women seem to be in suits/skirts/dresses nearly everyday...but that's what I wore to work back then, too. I've noticed that Delia has been wearing pants lately in addition to her 60's style mini-skirts.

However, the men do seem a appear to be a little more dated than the women...but the only two critical fashion faux pas that really stand out in my mind are Clem's sheepskin "pimp" coat and Rogers vertical stripe-layered denim pants. So far the men's hairstyles seem more dated than the women's...at least for now.

[irishtales]

So far the men's hairstyles seem more dated than the women's...at least for now.

I really like Bob's recent haircut but it looks so out of place next to the hairstyles the other men are sporting.

I like the musssed look but there are times when Pat and Bucky really need to run a comb through their hair...times like when they are on duty...so they can loook like competent doctors.

[AMCsince70]

Bob's haircut would be a definite stand out in the 70's. Only guys who were in the military had such short hair, or much older men--like the grandpas.
The actor must have just finished a part in a film or TV show where he played a soldier?

[toomuchtime]

and what did we all think of Faith's dress this am.....she looked so pretty.......so sad......they would have made a nice but beige couple....brown was such a 70s color choice...that Delia this am was perfect, perfectly rude of course....like watching handwriting on a wall, De and Pat......love this soap...

[AMCsince70]

Faith looked great...and that dress of hers could even work today. It had great style.

However, Pat's (and Bucky's) ruffled shirt tux was soooo 70's! :)

[monakayk]

ITA....the ruffled tux shirt was TOTALLY '70s. LOL.

My boyfriend wore one with his tux when he took me to my high school-senior prom. Ohhhhh and I thought he was sooooooooo handsome...which he was! :-}

[soapscum]

i have this memory of staying home from school when i was a kid and watching ryan's hope -
and the episode was about jill being offered a chance to represent the rolling stones as a lawyer while they were in town...lol...and frank being jealous.
anybody remember this? it had to be around 81....
it wasn't a storyline, just one of those little side stories.....but its one of the those fleeting moments.

[AMCsince70]

It's interesting to see how language and terms have changed over the years...:D

The other day Johnny referred to "social dancing"...but now we would use the term "ballroom dancing." (His comment reminded me that I took a Social Dancing class in college...back in the 70's...to fulfill my PhysEd requirement.)

Then Mary referred to the "college trainee" who is helping her at Channel R. We would use the term "intern" today.

[AMCsince70]

So Roger would pay $3 an hour for a babysitter!

I used to babysit in the early-to-mid 70's, and the going rate was about $1 an hour for a teenage sitter. The minimum wage was around a dollar, too, by the late 70's.

So Roger is willing to triple the going rate!

[toomuchtime]

that's Roger, always a big spender....luv his character, it must have been so much fun to play such a louse....

[Luray]

Did y'all notice that the Daybreak print has moved from the hall near the front door to over the fireplace? Maeve must have relocated it in a nervous whirlwind over her children's troubles.

[monakayk]

Watching Pat was in the kitchen with Faith while she made him lunch...we get a glimpse of the classic 'avocado green' refrigerator. My parents had one the same color...as well as their stove in their kitchen till they sold it and bought a patio home.

Avocado Green and Harvest Gold was the two most popular colors for major appliances in the '70s. Love it! LOL.:]

Also, loved the 'Granny Square' Crochet afghan on the Ryan's couch.

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

Oh so sad but true...I bought my first house in the mid-70's and I still have my Harvest Gold refrigerator and stove, and my girlfriend has her avocado green fridge. They still work like a dream...and on the rare occasion when they needed servicing, the repair guy keeps telling me to hold on to them since that particular model is indestructible.

Plus...See those flying bird prints on the Coleridge kitchen walls and those oak Windsor chairs around the dining room table?...yep, in my house, too.

Ha! The "70's Show" could probably have been filmed in my house!:]

[AMCsince70]

Did y'all notice that the Daybreak print has moved from the hall near the front door to over the fireplace? Maeve must have relocated it in a nervous whirlwind over her children's troubles.

Thanks for pointing that out! I love when viewers pick up on changes like that in the set design!

It's a Maxfield Parrish print, right? They were very popular in the early 20th Century and then had a big revival of popularity starting again in the 70's. My mother has one in her entranceway near the front door of her apartment...just like Maeve did.

As I recall, Maeve made a big deal about rearranging the artwork on the walls a couple weeks ago. I suppose the repositioning of that print was the result.

[Luray]

Now it's back in the hall. Go figure. One of Maeve's failed decorating experiments, I guess.

Yes, it is Maxfield Parrish. My grandmother -- quite the fashion plate in the 20s, she was -- had the same print, in the same type of curved frame, in her front hall. She had another Parrish print at the top of her stairs.

I love the Coleridge kitchen. If I could have a nice big kitchen like that I wouldn't care what color the appliances were!

[AMCsince70]

Luray, you have me looking for that print everyday now! :]:] It keeps moving like it has a life of its own.

Wouldn't you know it today?:o Yes, it was moved to the entranceway for the first episode today, but then it was right back over the fireplace for the next episode.

Wow...in the middle of night, the "ghost of RH" must have moved it?!!!

I wonder where it will be tomorrow....:]

[AMCsince70]

I love those pedestal coffee mugs that Jill has in her apartment. I think Faith as them, too. They were all the rage in the 70's...I bought a set of four for my mother back then. (I think she still has two of them left.)

Now, a popular shape for coffee mugs is quasi-cone shaped...just like a Starbucks coffee cup...wide at the bottom, narrower at the top.

A style that's still popular, too...it first came out in the late 90's...is a shorter, squarer mug that looks like a can of cranberry sauce with a wide curving handle.

[AMCsince70]

Kathleen's pastel-colored nursery-print diaper bag...for little Maura...you don't see much of that style anymore.

[toomuchtime]

boy, it just takes you right back to the 70s doesn't it....all the clothes, and the diaper bag, the hat De had on when she "escaped"....I just love it all...so much fun...if Y&R wasn't still on it'd be fun to see their first years too...

[Luray]

I think it was Friday, Maeve and Mary were talking in the kitchen; Mary left, and then you could see her -- or someone else -- walking behind the kitchen window. Love those production values! LOL

[AMCsince70]

I saw that, too! It looked like Mary had left the building and was now somehow walking outside in the alleyway by the kitchen window...when she was supposed to have been going somewhere else.

Sometimes you can spot a person standing outside Roger's garden terrace French doors.

It's great when that happens. You get a really sense of how the sets are staged. Now with the advent of recorders, I can reply the goofs and see them for what they really are.
Love it! :)

[Luray]

There was another recent episode where you could see someone moving behind the camera in the reflection from the glass in one of the pictures on the wall.

Never noticed this stuff before. But now that I'm old and cynical ... LOL ...

[toomuchtime]

I'm so glad you posted that about the kitchen window....I saw that and then I thought I'd imagined it....but I still think the change in Jill's hair from one day to the next (in the same scene) is my fave error lately....what were they thinking????...

[Luray]

LOL, it's the little things that make this show so enjoyable. Like Delia wearing a pink scarf in one scene and a blue one in the next. You gotta wonder who's at the switch! :]

[monakayk]

Right before Roger and Dee 'ran away together' and she met him at his apartment...he had caviar and champagne...when he poured the champagne..it looked like water---crystal clear--no bubbles!

Then while they were drinking champagne in their ship-cabin...it looked more real, probably Ginger Ale. It had more color and bubbles.

Did anyone else notice that?

MonaK

[laner]

I did also notice Jills hair..the same scene..but different days.. and different styles lol. ONe time i noticed when Maeve and De were in DEs room the door open and you could see someone pop in and pop out real fast in the hallway. I loved it. Do you also notice all the banging sounds..like someone dropped a prop? lol

[AMCsince70]

Today while Jill was seated on the couch...as she talked with Maeve...I noticed for the first time that Jill must have gotten her ears "double pierced" recently. Each lobe definitely had two earrings...a diamond stud plus a small dangling earring.

Did anyone notice that? Maybe Jill has been wearing two earrings for a while...but this was the first time I noticed it.
(She must have a had a "house call" since she's been bedridden for a while. ;) )

Double piecing became fashionable in the late 70s. Again, Jill leads the pack. :D

[AMCsince70]

That scene with Seneca and Jill and the special "tea":

A doctor putting two fingers' worth of alcohol into a pregnant woman's drink...well, wouldn't be happening now, no matter how calm she needed to be. How things have changed.

[Music805]

The scene today with Mary daydreaming about her and Jack in the city...wow how New York has changed...and the random wood paneling behind her in the Chinese restaurant....WOW!! Fabulously horrible!!!

[AMCsince70]

Funny thing...those hole-in-the-wall restaurants in Chinatown and the bakery in Little Italy (where they bought the cannolis) are probably still there.

That montage brought back memories of when my mom used to ask me if I wanted to go out for an ice cream cone or a cannoli. Only in New York! :)
(Usually the cannoli won!)

[PrincessMiranda]

Johnny sucks at giving an apology!!(Referring to his apology to Jack AFTER the big REVEAL)! :]

[AMCsince70]

Right! He seems to give one more "dig" when he tries to apologize to Jack. I've seen Jack be the same way. But Johnny's treating Jack so badly puts so much strain on Mary. I wish he could see that part...

Jack and Johnny are more alike than I think either of them realizes.

[AMCsince70]

Today we got a glimpse of Jill's baby bump! :)

[Luray]

I noticed today that Bucky and I have the same haircut ... :]

[AMCsince70]

Then you must be a cutie, too. :D

When Delia found out the area code of phone number where Pat was staying...516...she figured Pat was at the Coleridge beach house on the Long Island (the Hamptons). It's true that parts of Long Island still use the 516 area code, but only for the westernmost part, Nassau County, closest to NYC.

The Hamptons (Suffolk County) are located in eastern part Long Island, which got a "new" area code about 10 years ago...631.

BTW, I love those rotary phones! I really do! :)

[ann520]

I guess the observation I'd make is how sad it is that I am enjoying th heck out of a 30+ year old soap that airs at 5 AM (!!!) more than the current soaps. It's such a simple recipe for a good soap - there are the wonderful secrets that build and build slowly as more and more people find out about it, until that great, can't miss day when finally, the one person that will be devastated by the secret finally finds out about it (this does not all happen in one week like it does on today's soaps). And then you have your "good" characters and your villians and the villians always get what's coming to them. Always. It's so simple and so, so satisfying! I really don't know why all of the modern soaps abandoned that simple philosophy, it's so darn entertaining!

[Luray]

Hi, Ann520! So happy you're enjoying Ryan's Hope! This is the fourth time I've seen these episodes, and I still enjoy the heck out of it as well.

You're absolutely right that soap operas have abandoned a formula that worked for many years, and judging from the number of first-time viewers who marvel at how well-written Ryan's Hope is, a formula that still works. Not to say that modern elements couldn't bring in some variation on the formula, but why fix something that ain't broke?

Hope to see you around lots! :)

[lorettalockhorn]

That scene with Seneca and Jill and the special "tea":

A doctor putting two fingers' worth of alcohol into a pregnant woman's drink...well, wouldn't be happening now, no matter how calm she needed to be. How things have changed.

I've never understood how it is that my hick Arkie OB/GYN knew that alcohol was a no-no in '75-'76, yet those sophisticated NY docs thought it was okay.

[AMCsince70]

Yes, and today Mary was belting down a beer with Bob.

I wasn't pregnant until 1978, but alcohol (for pregnant women) was seriously frowned on by then.

[monakayk]

While Faith was cooking (as usual) in her kitchen, I noticed the yellow pots/pan near her stove. That EXACT same pot...I owned in the 70's. A set was given to me when I first got out of college to cook with. Those suckers were HEAVY cause they were cast iron covered with glazed ceramic covering. They sure did cook great...but HEAVY to hold.

Brought back great memories seeing them in the kitchen scene!

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

Yes! I have the same ceramic-coated yellow cookware...mine is a "dutch oven" with two handles on the sides. What a heavy critter!!! I got it as a shower present in the mid 70s.

I think I still have it somewhere...
Hey, if they ever have a RH redux, they can come over here and borrow it!:]

[Luray]

Faith likes to wear cowl necked sweaters, doesn't she? I had a boatload of them myself when I was in high school/college.

[monakayk]

The set of yellow cookware I had included: frying pan/lid, dutch oven/lid and large cooking pot/lid--->which was shown on RH in Faith's kitchen. I think I built muscles lifting those things full of cooked food! LOL.

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

You had the whole set!

Hoisting that cookware from oven to table...definitely, what a workout!
After a while, the lifting of that yellow pot went on my "honey dew" :xlist.

Delia better watch out. Faith must have great biceps!

[monakayk]

Clem has one pierced ear.

I guess I had never noticed that before, if he had worn an earring in other epys. That must have been the earliest that any man on a soap wore earrings? I really don't ever remember seeing them on men before the mid '80s.

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

I think I saw Clem's earring in just one earlier episode...but at first I thought it was some sort of growth/mole on his ear. Clearly, today it appeared to be a ruby-like earring.

He may be one of the earliest actors to sport an earring on camera.
I saw men wearing them at work in the late 70s.

[monakayk]

I don't know if this has been brought up before...but Riverdale hospital rooms sure are 'fancy'. With all those huge framed paintings/pictures on the walls and colorful drapes.

Doesn't look like any hospital rooms I used to volunteer at as a 'candystriper' when I was a teen in the '70s. LOL.

[GL1979]

Clem's earring is one of those memories from the show that remind me of someone, just like songs on the radio that bring back memories .

My best friend Marcia watched the show too, one time she came over and first thing out of her mouth was "OMG did you see Clem has an earring?" she was the ultimate Bucky fan. Sadly I haven't heard from her in about 10 years.

[AMCsince70]

A closer look at Clem's earring...in the bright lights of the hospital...shows that it is indeed a perfect gold stud. In Ryan's Bar (maybe because of the lighting), the earring had an almost ruby-like glow.

Clem was a trendsetter, probably Soap World's first "metro-sexual" character. :)

[monakayk]

The 1st day showing Pat and Faith's engagement party: the decorated 'food' table had a large engagement ring centerpiece in the center of the table, no cake on the table...the candles were not lite.

Today during the party: candles were lite and centerpiece off to one side of the table with a lovely cake in the center placed on a cake pedestal.

Guess the set-props people remembered to light the candles today when they added the cake to the table! LOL.:]

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

Good catch. :clap:I like when people catch those details.

What I liked was seeing the Frank pace up and down NYC streets at night...I could recognize his starting point (the snow-covered steps in front of the New York Library at 42nd Street and Fifth Avenue), and it looked like his stopping/collapsing point might have been the front steps of St. Patrick's Cathedral.

[AMCsince70]

Loved the scene with Maeve and Faith filling up the salt shakers. Did anyone find it interesting that Ryan's Bar seems to offer its customers "a choice" of two different brands of salt: the blue container with Morton's Salt, and the red/white/yellow container with Diamond Crystal Salt. Equal time for brand placement?

Ah...Ryan's Bar...The Salt Connoisseurs of 1977!

[buddharich]

Anybody else notice the camera boom's (large microphone) shadow kept showing up on Pat's forehead this morning? (: RH often had this difficulty! It doesn't really detract from the excellent acting, though... loved the scene, but I wonder why they had so many technical troubles like this one??

[toomuchtime]

I saw it too, you'd think they'd take the glass out of the pictures over the mantle so it wouldn't show....I think they had trouble because they were all in close up, Pat looked like he was going to come through the camera at the end of that one scene...great scenes though....I hate the weekends with no RH...

[monakayk]

Two observations as of late:

In Faith's kitchen when she asked Roger if he slept with Dee.....there was the 'yellow Dutch Oven' pot I had included in my set of pots and pans given to me in the mid 70's I have discussed previously! Boy-->that thing was HEAVY, but Boy---> it sure cooked roasts/soups so nicely!

Did anyone notice the broken handle on one of the filing cabinets in Frank's office? I noticed it twice.

The 1st time the drawer with the broken handle hanging down was the 1st drawer in the filing cabinet. The next time I noticed it ....the props dept. moved it to the bottom of the filing cabinet, but in a long shot...it showed up! LOL :]....too funny them moving the drawer without fixing it in hopes viewers wouldn't notice it the second time around.

So look out to see if they fixed that cabinet drawer if they show Frank's office again. Or maybe...they will move it to the cabinets which the back of the cabinets face the camera-->DUH!!!! #-oThat is what they should've done if they couldn't fix that darn handle!

LOL

MonaK

[lorettalockhorn]

I noticed in (Tuesday's?) episode when Dee and Pat were sitting on the couch that it looked like someone walked behind the curtains. Pretty funny since the apartment isn't on the ground floor. :]

[AMCsince70]

I saw that, too! Such a serious scene bewteen the two of them...and then to have someone walk by outside "mid air"!!:D

[Luray]

Does anyone else think that Andrew Robinson looks like Grady Sizemore of the Cleveland Indians? It's driving me nuts. Google up his picture and let me know what you think. :]

[lorettalockhorn]

They do look similar!

Okay, does anyone think it's ooky that Maeve was stripping and making Mary's bed? That's above and beyond, if you ask me.

And what's with those pills knocking Jack out? Pretty sure they're just Darvon. Loved the ER scene when Pat was seeing to Delia. I looked up Babinsky reflex; it's good in young children but bad in adults. Who knew?

[AMCsince70]

Maeve is the quintessential housekeeper. :) Since it's her apartment, she probably didn't give it a second thought to changing the linens on Mary's bed. Maybe she's cutting Mary some slack because of the pregnancy.

Loved how Johnny broke down the door to Delia's room. Pow! He meant business...and he's stronger than you'd expect!

[lorettalockhorn]

Ugh. My housekeeper doesn't strip the beds (or wash our drawers). Mary's supposed to be Super Woman, she could at least take the dirty sheets to the laundry room. (It's been so long since I was pregnant, I can't remember if/how hard it was to make the bed! :D ) Maeve's doing her a kindness to put clean sheets on for her.

[GL1979]

The hat Mary was wearing when she and Alex got caught in the snow. I remember wanting a hat like that during those late 70s, but every one I tried just didn't fit right.

[monakayk]

In the hospital nursery, while Seneca and other doc/nurses are taking care of baby-Edmund...there were NO paper towels coming out of the towel dispenser hanging on the wall over the sink. Wonder how they dried their hands when they washed them? I guess they dried them on their hospital coats.LOL :]

Also, Jill's hair was parted and 'flipped' to the opposite side while she waited outside the nursery for Seneca to tell her about the condition of baby-Edmund from the previous show, but still the same scene.

These past two days, Ilene Kristen (Dee) had some sort of cold sores next to her mouth. I was hoping that Pat would not kiss her on the lips...which he didn't.

MonaK

[Luray]

The nursery scenes made me laugh. The nurse was gowned and masked, the doc in his white lab coat, and Seneca in his street clothes. I guess Sennie doesn't think he has germs. :rolleyes:

[AMCsince70]

Great catches, MonaK!
I noticed that cold sore of Delia's, too. Fortunately, Pat and Dee aren't being "intimate" right now.

Luray...Didn't you get the memo? Seneca doesn't have to follow the rules! :]

[buddharich]

Noticed Ed Evanko's (Alex) name was finally off the credit crawl at the end of the episodes. I wonder why his name was still on there for so long?? Usually RH was quick to give credit - and to take it away!! (;

[AMCsince70]

I was looking for Ed's name today, too, and it was gone. Maybe he was still on contract and that's why his name stayed so long on the rolling credits?

His character left so fast. Will there be any more mention of him?

[monakayk]

ITA...I really liked Ed's acting the role of Alex and BOY---> he sure had a wonderful singing voice too.

So 'Alex' is no longer part of RH? Wonder why TPTB just let him get lost in NYCity? I thought his character was great and had some really good potential for future storylines.

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

I'm with you, MonaK, on Ed Evanko's talents. I am thinking he must have had an amazing opportunity to do other work, or he had a family emergency that made him leave so abruptly.

It really seems to me that Dr. Alex was going to have more to do with Jack and Mary's storyline, at least for the next few months. With all that "set up" between him and Mary, plus the plan for surgery for Jack, it seemed there was more for Alex to "innocently interfere" with in Mary and Jack's relationship.

Plus...I fully expected Alex and Maeve to sing a duet on St. Patrick's Day. :)

[lorettalockhorn]

I hate that EE got ditched or left or whatever too. The IMDb didn't show him doing much between '77 and '91 and didn't find much Broadway stuff in his resume either. This may require some heavy duty snooping.

[monakayk]

They got some paper towels in that towel dispenser now hanging on the wall in the hospital's baby nursery, but there is NO soap in the soap dispenser!

Also, I have noticed this before...but more so on Friday's epy when Maeve was cooking in her kitchen....all the labels on the food boxes and can goods are 'taped' over so you can not see the name brands on them. They even have matching color tape that matches the color of the other print on the boxes/cans. Boy--->someone in the prop dept. was busy trying to find matching color tape for that food! LOL.:]

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

Don't you love trying to guess the name of the products from the 70s packaging?

Hellmann's Mayonnaisse, Diamond Crystal Salt, Domino Sugar...those are all on Maeve's shelf or butcher block work table. It's so great to see the packaging from 30 years ago. Some have changed styles, some haven't.

[lorettalockhorn]

They didn't do the product placement in the '70s that they do now! I noticed in the empty shot during the credit roll the other day that Bobby had gone off and left the mayo out of the fridge. :]

[AMCsince70]

Poor Bobby was probably recovering from Mary's teasing him about her going into labor right in front of him...and what he would do if he had to be one to deliver her baby.

Mayonnaise would have been the least of his worries...

[lorettalockhorn]

What?! Mary wouldn't need Bobby to deliver the baby. She would do it herself. She's Wonder Woman. :rolleyes: :]

[Luray]

Don't you love trying to guess the name of the products from the 70s packaging?

Hellmann's Mayonnaisse, Diamond Crystal Salt, Domino Sugar...those are all on Maeve's shelf or butcher block work table. It's so great to see the packaging from 30 years ago. Some have changed styles, some haven't.
They never cover up the Twinings Irish Breakfast Tea tin, though. Maybe cause the type is so small.

[AMCsince70]

I've seen Maeve scoop tea out of that squarish green tin...but I forget the name of the brand. Twinings, of course! It was the one of the few loose teas that was readily available in supermarkets back in the 70s.

Of course, Maeve was enjoying, no doubt...Irish Breakfast Tea :D

[Luray]

Twouldn't be right for her to be enjoying English breakfast tea, now would it? :]

[AMCsince70]

Didn't Pat notice that there are no maternity clothes in Delia's trousseau...just a clingy knit sweater jacket and tight skirt?

[laner]

I love this soap. Excellent writing and acting..but what makes is more enjoyable are the accidental slips and technical issues that occur lol.

[tree72]

Mary drinking beer and coffee pregnant.

Most of the men have brown curely hair.

Delia's nasty cold sore

[Luray]

#-oAt least Mary wasn't smoking, too.

[Luray]

How did that Philadelphia doctor's office manage to have the very same windows as Riverside Hospital?!?! The coincidence is astounding! :]

[AMCsince70]

The dresser in Jack's room seems to be missing handles or drawer pulls, especially for the top drawer. I guess it's all part of the hospital budget cuts.:(

When Roger and Faith were chatting around the kitchen table, I spotted two of my "70s style wedding gifts": the platinum-rimmed diamond-cut crystal tumblers, and the cut-crystal centerpiece fruit bowl. Such memories! :)

[AMCsince70]

Dear Bob is almost always wearing a dark green suit. Bless that guy. :)

[Luray]

When Jack asked for a bourbon at the social club this morning, they handed him a bottle of Seagram's! Blacked out of course. That kind of error you'd think would have made Jack madder than a hornet!

[monakayk]

Noticed today...during the nursery scene when Jack was looking at his new baby....the old style Playtex baby nursing bottle (with the disposable plastic bottle inserts) sitting on the end of the baby's bed. I think in the '70s they were the first to come out with bottles like that.Used those for both my DDs after I weened them from nursing. They were wonderful...just threw away the inserts...no need to sterilizing bottles....loved them.

MonaK

[AMCsince70]

I noticed, too, the sound of another baby crying somewhere off set during the labor & delivery scene the other day. That baby must have been the "reserve" actor in case Baby #1 needed a replacement.

[toomuchtime]

Playtex came out with those bottles with the baggies in the mid 60s I used them for both of my kids...they were really easy to use...I'm sure we'll get lots of new baby stuff with Ryan....

[tree72]

The camera mans shadow at the foot of Pat & Delias bed. And they didn't even pan in to hide it.

[buddharich]

The camera boom getting into shots and lots of shadows were regular visitors to this particular show!! They didn't do too many retakes on RH back then, unless there were major flubs. Bernard Barrow & Helen Gallagher have sometimes made mistakes (more BB, who sometimes gets his kids' names wrong from time to time) - but it's all o.k. because the show is SO good!

[tree72]

Yeah it is good. And I enjoy spotting the bloopers.

[Luray]

There was a big one in Wednesday's first show, I believe, when Tom and Johnny were preparing for Mary and Ryan's big welcome home party. The camera focused on the wall for a split second. Oops.

[buddharich]

Luray, wasn't there a sign on the wall welcoming home Mary or was that a different scene than the one you've mentioned??

[Luray]

No, I mean the camera focused on the wall. The empty, wallpapered wall in the Ryans' living room. :]

[AMCsince70]

The flower arrangement at the foot of the bed in Mary's hospital room was mostly yellow and pink during the first episode today. In the second episode--supposedly the same day--it was pink and white spider mums.

Maybe she gets fresh new arrangements each morning and afternoon. :)

[toomuchtime]

I think they had a new camera man or maybe the regular was on vacation this week (it is June for them I think)...that one day they actually didn't have the camera on the people talking....it was really weird...but ya gotta love this show...they go on no matter what happens...

[Luray]

I’ve been very much enjoying Jack in his pink sweater. Doesn’t he look divine, even when he’s contemplating breaking Mary’s heart. *sigh*

[buddharich]

The pink sweater def. softened Jack this morning, but yegads, he was jumping all over Jumbo!!! How dare he?? (I just love Jumbo!) (:

[AMCsince70]

I love, love Jumbo. He's one of my favorite RH characters!.:)
What's unusual is that today Jumbo asked Johnny if he wanted an "ex-presso" instead of "espresso"...gotta love that deep voice of his and his endearing New York ways.

[ann520]

It is clear that the Ryan's are Roman Catholics, Father McShane is a recurring character and interacts with the family often, but, and this may be a picky point, Catholics do not have christenings, they have baptisms. I can't recall ever hearing the upcoming event referred to as Ryan's baptism, and it just struck me as somewhat odd. No idea what that could mean, but since the topic is Random Observations, I thought that fit!

[buddharich]

I've heard my mom refer to going to "christenings" rather than calling them baptisms, and she's very catholic!! ); None of my nieces or my nepphew were baptised, though - I think (correct me if I'm wrong) you can call it either baptism or christening??

[ann520]

I guess it can be referred to either way, but when my niece was baptized (years and years ago when I was a teenager), I distinctly remember the priest made a big deal out of the fact that a baptism was a sacrament to bring the child into the church, whereas a christening had more to do with naming the child and was clearly not a sacrament of the church. I think those super strict days of the Roman Catholic church are gone now, maybe they were gone by 1977 as well.

[GL1979]

growing up catholic myself. I've never heard of a catholic baptism called a christening until the last 10 years or so and never at church the priest still says baptism. I was taught - and I mean no offense here that christening was a protestant word.

[GL1979]

I remember as the show went on and new writers took over there was less authentic Catholic stuff on the show and it was a little more like other soaps, in the portrayal of the church.

[AMCsince70]

Maybe it's a New York thing. The word "christening" is used here a lot, especially in reference to the family gathering after the Baptism...as in "I've been invited to the Katarina's christening. The party's at her grandmother's house."

Maybe it's like the terms "marriage ceremony" and "wedding": one is church ceremony and the other also refers to the celebration that happens afterward.

[ann520]

Well, maybe the writers of RH had some kind of psychic power where they could envision the internet and web sites and message boards, because ever since I posted the original message, every other word out of the actors mouths is "baptism"!!!

[Luray]

My church uses "baptism," but everyone but the parish priest uses both words interchangably. Kinda like Mary and Maeve were doing the other day.

[lorettalockhorn]

growing up catholic myself. I've never heard of a catholic baptism called a christening until the last 10 years or so and never at church the priest still says baptism. I was taught - and I mean no offense here that christening was a protestant word.

Presbyterian (USA) here; we use the word baptism, but I think other protestant churches may use christening. It's very moving; the parents don't just promise to raise the child in the church, but the child is presented to the congregation who in turn promises to also nurture the child. (It's really neat when sometimes, the preacher is coming down the aisle to show off the babe and the sunlight breaks through the stained glass windows and bathes the newborn in colored light.)

[AMCsince70]

At the Baptism ceremony in the church, every woman was wearing on her head either a hat, lace veil, or large flower. Very "old school" dress code, even for the late 70s.

[PrincessMiranda]

Riverside is struggling so hard with their budget and MANY of the Doctors are overworked, except Seneca! Seneca just seems to spend a lot of time talking about the budget restraints and NEVER does anything about it and the rest of the time he is relaxing and having ALONE time with Jill. :o

[buddharich]

Anybody else notice that there was somebody in the shot directly behind Kate Mulgrew (Mary) in Jack's doorway this morning? (; Of course, it COULD have been explained as someone passing her in the hallway, but it was still a mistake!! );

[AMCsince70]

I took another look at that scene, and I honestly can't see anyone behind the shot of Mary standing in the doorway. It's a tough one to explain...




Another observation: The props department are careful to cover the brand names of certain food products in the Ryan's kitchen, but those boxes of "Mister Salty" pretzels and "Nilla Wafer" cookies were quite prominent. :)

[GL1979]

Riverside is struggling so hard with their budget and MANY of the Doctors are overworked, except Seneca! Seneca just seems to spend a lot of time talking about the budget restraints and NEVER does anything about it and the rest of the time he is relaxing and having ALONE time with Jill. :o

After his trial he wasn't supposed to have patients, he was just supposed to be an administrator, or head of Neurology. I don't know if that ever changed.

[PrincessMiranda]

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GL1979:
That makes sense, but I would hope he's still allowed to consult on patients. What a limitation - have a chief of Neurology that can't get INVOLVED with Patients. When my husband had emergency surgery, it was actually the Chief of staff for the particular department that PERFORMED the surgery. He just happened to be on call when we went to emergency and my husband was lucky enough to get the very skilled surgeon. So, I would think in all reality that interaction with Patients is a necessity for the job. I do understand what you're saying, but it seems like Seneca just has TIME on his hands and when he's NOT in his office discussing budget woes without solutions, he's relaxing with Jill and Edmund.

It just seems like Riverside Hospital would get MORE bang for their buck if they had a person IN charge with a MORE hands-on approach. The poor Doctors and residence are all floundering and it doesn't seem right somehow. :-?

[AMCsince70]

At the beginning of Angel's appearance, the actor's last name was listed as Alemen. I noticed it was changes a few episodes to Aleman.

[AMCsince70]

I've noticed that Mary wears two different gold wedding bands.

Normally, she wears a simple, polished gold wide band. (She had it on again today.)

But in the chancery office with Jack and lawyers, she was nervously twisting an extra wide, textured/ribbed gold wedding band...it was not her usual ring.

[Luray]

Jack looks hot when he's mooning over Mary. :D

[Luray]

I'm still catching up from last week, but I fell off the couch laughing and scared the cats when Seneca put "Bolero" on the phonograph at the beach house. Hilarious! And then Jill called him on it. What a hoot!

[GL1979]

^^^^ And if you think about it that was a whole 7 years before Torvill & Dean did their famous gold medal Bolero routine. It's weird to think that because in some ways when you watch the show it doesn't seem dated, but when a comment comes up that makes you remember some point in time, it's kind of freaky.

[AMCsince70]

I had the same idea about the whole Bolero scene.

My first thought was that I had never heard the story about college guys using the music to seduce their dates...but I immediately recalled the 1984 Olympic performance by Torvill and Dean.

But even before that, come to think of it, didn't Blake Edwards' 1979 movie "10" starring Bo Derek use Bolero as the central theme? The song really caught my attention then.

[AMCsince70]

Mary has switched back to her trademark beige summer bag with the white piping...the same bag she used last summer. I like that consistency in wardrobe/accessories. Seems more realistic that she would use her favorite summer bag again this year.

Glad she stopped using that Gucci bag she had used on one episode. Mary is not a "high-fallootin" Gucci girl, IMO.

[GL1979]

Miriam seems like a "Nosy Nelly", she cramps Jill's free living 70s lifestyle. Why is she a fan of Frank if you think about it, the fact that He was cheating on his wife with Jill doesn't seem like something she would approve